Wofl Q&A/Social

[~ Gheb ~]

So I'm starting to use a lot more ftilt. It's actually kinda pretty useful, fills a niche where fsmash is too slow/unsafe. But don't hit shields with it lol

Also, never doubt JJ Wolf.

Been preaching it since 2010 >_<

 

[Ishiey]

I used to support the idea but only recently started applying it so often. It gets me punished sometimes when I mess up, but no worse than fsmash would also, everyone is DIing out of my fsmashes, it's lame.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Use ftilt to cover aerial approaches.
Use fsmash when it's guaranteed punishment on block [rare], as a follow-up to low % bair [always] and as a follow-up to air releases [situational].

 

[Seagull Joe]

Use ftilt to cover aerial approaches.
Use fsmash when it's guaranteed punishment on block [rare], as a follow-up to low % bair [always] and as a follow-up to air releases [situational].

^

Another good time to use Fsmash is to punish airdodges.

 

[Rizen]

In what situations does Fsmash 1st hit trip and what are the odds of that?

I should Ftilt more.

 

[tekkie]

good lord, next thing you know you people will be talking about how awesome utilt is

 

[tru0067]

Utilt is awesome

 

[Rizen]

tekkie's psychic!

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[MegaRobMan]

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Do you know what move I like? Down smash.

 

[Rizen]

Wolf's best smash, <3 Dsmash.
Um, is Roll a robot in the original MM series?

 

[PMC66]

^ roll is a robot yes.

I've been using jab jab cancel D-tilt lately it seems really good vs characters with bad recoveries.

D-tilt in general is so underated.

BTW never take Wario to frigate EVER, FD is better because you've got more room and no 0-death slants :/

 

[Seagull Joe]

Wolf's best smash, <3 Dsmash.
Um, is Roll a robot in the original MM series?

Usmash>Dsmash in both damage/range.

^ roll is a robot yes.

I've been using jab jab cancel D-tilt lately it seems really good vs characters with bad recoveries.

D-tilt in general is so underated.

BTW never take Wario to frigate EVER, FD is better because you've got more room and no 0-death slants :/

Fd is not better because it's flat and there is nowhere to run. Frigate>Fd, but those two are probably the worst stages to fight on.

0-death slants...? Slants hinder the cg=/= help it.

 

[M.C. Pee-Pants]

You wolves should use more jab jab to dash grabs gimmicks, dash attack , and the options that makes me laugh jab jab to fullhop landing dair

 

[Ishiey]

FH dair is actually useful lol

On jab cancels, jab2 > charge dsmash is pretty good, gotta work on that whole baiting defensive options thing. Also, jab2 > fsmash for the super lulz.

 

[Seagull Joe]

sucks: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=329166

 

[Ishiey]

Oh god. I hate getting camped ;_; lol

 

[Wolf McBlue]

Well just went a tournament HASL 4 (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=329154) and I'm very happy at my results, got 13 out of 42. I still need more practice against diddy and fox >< also 4GOD wrecked me hard in bracket. ASL should have the vids up within a week or two

 

[Youngster Joey]

this is my first day with wolf. i have a good feel for him now but about how long should it take to get really good with him? like learn what works for him?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

That depends entirely on yourself.

 

[tekkie]

this is my first day with wolf. i have a good feel for him now but about how long should it take to get really good with him? like learn what works for him?

use utilt


ichu:

 

[tru0067]

Oh god. I hate getting camped ;_; lol

If you hate getting camped just throw a reflector out, you can't camp when everything you shoot comes right back at you

 

[Ishiey]

And then Fox empty SHs and grabs me

 

[Youngster Joey]

fox cant camp. his lasers have no knockback. i never played a good fox but im assuming he's easily approachable

 

[Rizen]

^Fox damages forcing an approach or baits a shield/reflector and punishes. Either way he forces a reaction.

 

[Zync]

You know our blaster is better than his though, he cant reflect it back since Fox's reflector is garbage and ours does much more damage if it hits.

+1000 for seagull for making that post, made me laugh on how true is it xD, really guys, I hope they dont even take out 3 wolves, so we can trashtalk for the eternity.

 

[Rizen]

If Fox shine stalls what's our best answer? Bair/Fair?

 

[Ishiey]

Wait/retreat imo.

 

[tru0067]

Bair, it will penetrate even if he is shining while fair's lag can get punished

I should know, my friend plays fox and he just jumps out to the side and shine stalls FOREVER

 

[Seagull Joe]

If Fox shine stalls what's our best answer? Bair/Fair?

Move away or fair him from the side.

You know our blaster is better than his though, he cant reflect it back since Fox's reflector is garbage and ours does much more damage if it hits.

+1000 for seagull for making that post, made me laugh on how true is it xD, really guys, I hope they dont even take out 3 wolves, so we can trashtalk for the eternity.

I try.

I know this is probably known, but did anyone else realize we could reflect a bike if throws it at us? Video proof below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aeOQbnYovM&feature=g-vrec#t=2m49s

 

[Rizen]

^Sweet! I'll remember that with Zelda too.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Reflecting Wario's bike makes it deal stupid amounts of damage and hitstun to him, too.

 

[tekkie]

that's so cute; i'll never be able to fight wario without trying to bait a bike throw again

 

[Ishiey]

Hurricane Sandy = I have no class for the whole week.

Not really sure how to react, feeling pretty conflicted about the whole ordeal.

Regardless, time for five days of doing whatever the **** I want :3

 

[tekkie]

when zero escape ships to my house tomorrow/the next day you're all never going to hear from me ever again

 

[tru0067]

Hi peeps

I have a question

What is Wolf's best punishing move?

Also what is his best move in general?

 

[Ishiey]

I really like using usmash OoS for punishing since it has decent range and hits on both sides, but it's a little bit slower than fair/bair OoS (those two are really good). When you have a bunch of time (as in, not in shield) and the opponent is in combo range, I prefer to go for SHFF bair > fsmash or something for damage.

Speed-wise, from fastest to slowest OoS:

grab
nair
jab/bair
fair
dsmash/usmash
fsmash

Things that have good range but a lot of cooldown (ex. Snake ftilt) are best punished by something like fsmash. Fast moves are best punished by nair or jab/bair/fair. Usmash is a good middle-ground, as is dsmash but the former is better for damage and the latter for killing.


Best move in general? Probably bair.

 

[Wolf McBlue]

I have only learned recently the amazingness of nair about a month and half ago, it has helped my punishment game and it throws so many people off since wolf just becomes a flying cannon ball lol

 

[tekkie]

its stupid easy to hit wofl if he rising nairs you, *especially* after he hits you with it unless you're at high %

also ish whaddabout the whole not-needing-to-drop-shield-thing-that's-why-usmash-oos-is-supposed-to-be-good thing?

ichu:

 

[Wolf McBlue]

I have been meaning to ask when it is good for wolf to go offstage and punish? I know never when they are approaching the ledge from below but that is it? I want to get better at punishing offstage

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Just use something and you'll get a feel for it. Neutral-B, Down-B, and your aerials all do what they do on-stage, except they're harder to avoid.