Wofl Q&A/Social

[Ishiey]

YESSSSSSS good work :D your Wolf is super legit. Which reminds me, I should really upload our matches from when you were in NJ... >______>

And yeah, at least under Unity it's legal

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Everything in this game is legal except stalling via the use of glitches/infinites such as infinite dimension cape, infiniting people past 300% with Dedede's down throw or freezing Diddy's up throw with a windbox etc.

And previously Meta Knight.

I feel this post makes no sense.

 

[Seagull Joe]

I'll try whenever I start uploading replays (When I have free time). My internship takes up my entire week mostly. Almost done though .

 

[Zync]

YESSSSSSS good work :D your Wolf is super legit. Which reminds me, I should really upload our matches from when you were in NJ... >______>

And yeah, at least under Unity it's legal

Are you suuuuure it was never banned before? I swear I read once "King dedede must dash before a regrab" Im trying to get all the possible feedback to convince our TO to ban it :D

And tahnks Ish, youre great Upload those replays!!!!

 

[Ishiey]

I've seen that a few times, but it never really caught on too much haha. At least if it did, it was a while ago :x

There are sooooooo many replays to record, it's ridiculous ;___; I don't even have time until next week because I have to write a paper and then my parents are visiting :< but after that I have nothing to do until finals, so hopefully I'll have the videos up in like two weeks :3

 

[Zync]

Well what can I say... sooon :D

Btw I had 2 awesome wofl bair moments on the ranking, scored around 9 Bairs in a row vs an inexperienced lucario and 7 Bairs to an experienced wolf player which resulted on his death lol, and the wii replays were full so almost nobbody saw it >_>

 

[WedginatorX]

Whether or not the D3 infinite is legal is at the TO's discretion and always has been. They'll pick whatever they agree with most.
I know a lot of NJ/NY tournies used to ban the infinite and only smallstep and regular CG were legal.

Who are you?

I'd love to ask you the same question
I'm Joe's secret sonic lover. Shhh, don't let Tiger know.

 

[Ishiey]

Nice ;D things like that are why I'm trying to carry my SD card around wherever I go lol, you never know when something awesome will happen.

Also, you should go watch the videos I posted and tell me what I could be doing better vs Snake, I know you know that MU pretty well

EDIT: I always get ninja'd

 

[WedginatorX]

Its okay ish. You can't help the fact that you're too slow
Speaking of which, i can't believe i still havent played your wofl.

 

[Ishiey]

asdnjaksdjnaksdjvnkjnkjnsdaljsk I deserved that lol

Are you from NY/NJ? Because I'm way too lazy to ever go any further for a tournament, and probably won't even be able to go to another tournament until September unless I can work out a good flight to Cali :x also, disclaimer, I have no idea how to fight Sonic

 

[WedginatorX]

Yeah im from nj/ny, which is why i was surprised i never played you yet O_o

 

[Ishiey]

I don't think I've ever seen you at a tournament actually, at least, I don't remember seeing any Sonics D: the only ones I've been to as of late are Collision and Collision II though, so maybe that's why. A lot of good tournaments coming up but time/money/other obligations are preventing me from making them... and then I'm away all summer so I'm missing like the 5 summer nationals in our region lol

 

[Zync]

Nice ;D things like that are why I'm trying to carry my SD card around wherever I go lol, you never know when something awesome will happen.

Also, you should go watch the videos I posted and tell me what I could be doing better vs Snake, I know you know that MU pretty well

EDIT: I always get ninja'd

Ill see what advice can I give, loading the videos , also, I notice the first is on yoshis island... Why would you fight there? :x

 

[Ishiey]

We were just going on random set to the standard six (FD/BF/SV/YI/Lylat/PS1). Idk, YI wasn't *too* bad... what makes it good for Snake / bad for Wolf in that MU?

I actually really like Lylat against Snake lol, since the stage hack made it possible to see things xD

 

[castorpollux]

castorpollux, assuming your name comes from where I think it comes from, that's the greatest name ever.

trust me, you don't know where my name comes from.


but yes, it is the greatest name ever

 

[Zync]

There I wrote some stuff on the actual thread, hope you find it helpful, still the match was really good to watch!


EDIT: about the stage idk I just dont like it overall, wolfs autocancells can get wrecked, theres little space to camp and snake can get away with the slopes to send grenades to weird places

 

[Ishiey]

@ JJ: I mean, it still comes from a reference to that story. T'was an excellent piece of writing though, like... really.

@ Sync: Thanks dude yeah haha, I took your camping advice to heart, made everything better xD he's not a Snake main though, it'll be a lot harder to camp False since I know he's going to strip grenades right in my face all the time, guess I have to start SH blastering ;__; and yeah, I usually do stupid things when I'm behind and really want to win, bad habit :/

 

[castorpollux]

@ JJ: I mean, it still comes from a reference to that story. T'was an excellent piece of writing though, like... really.

I predict he thinks it comes from hunger games. not the original myth

 

[Ishiey]

Oh lol... whoops. I actually know nothing about the hunger games >_________>

EDIT: Another video of Wolf from Japan. I like the wavebounced blasters and SHFF turnaround grabs, but the lack of dthrow is confusing me. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOYi6A3XuKg&feature=relmfu

 

[castorpollux]

Oh lol... whoops. I actually know nothing about the hunger games >_________>

me neither, but i've been getting lots of comments about it relating to hunger games

 

[KuroganeHammer]

How is that Wolf getting such a large boost from blaster when he's not B reversing it?

Also I don't understand the lack of dthrow either, especially when it would have killed Dedede off the edge at 180%.

 

[Ishiey]

He's doing both a wavebounce and a b-reversal. It's pretty awesome :3

I guess maybe because everyone techs dthrows in Japan (the one time he used it on the Pit it was teched), but even then it's not that hard to punish if you're keeping an eye out for it... idk. Those blasters were awesome though, got a lot of hits in with the hilt :o

 

[_Kain_]

All I know is...

That wavebounce laser looks hella good for approaching Olimar, and also a good fakeout for chars who can CG us.

How does he do that?

EDIT: Unless there purples...**** purples

 

[Ishiey]

To do that, press away from the direction you're facing (which is the direction he was moving in most of the time), B, then back towards the direction you were initially facing; b-reversal followed by a wavebounce so that you're shooting in the direction you're facing with reversed momentum. It was crazy, actually approaching with hilted blaster @_@

+1 for purple pikmin sucking

 

[SinisterB]

It's like a Breverse, but you just face forwards while you carry your momentum backwards. If you meant the other one he did, you just hold your momentum to whichever direction you're going, and Breverse the other way. I actually use it all the time, it's probably the most effective method for scrooging SV because it lets you grab the other side with a Flash.

Not sure why he didn't do much Dthrow either, I mean, we have frame advantage if they tech in place, and you can commit to a BDACUS that usually puts you in a decent spot if they decide to tech roll. His other throws aren't bad by any means, but yeah, it was a little strange lol.

Overall I enjoyed his Wolf, just a few little things that irked me like his rolls and such. Just me being nitpicky though, really. Good stuff Ish.


-DAMN IT ISH

ninja'd

 

[tekkie]

ive done plenty of silly **** in my day like that but this is just that much sillier

i'll get on it

 

[Ishiey]

Muahahahaaaa I finally get to ninja someone :3

Japan has interesting Wolves. I hope we can actually communicate with them sometime.

Also, speaking of dthrow... since we have data... hmm... except there's the whole issue of spacing/IGUs and stuff, so this isn't really going to work, but I'll just conveniently overlook that >_> Aerodrome, does every character have the same frame data on their techrolls? :3

 

[kailo34ce]

man that megamanrob or megarobman or whatever makes all you woof players look bad.

 

[MegaRobMan]

**** Kirby. I hate that thing.

Yeah I have never beaten a comparable Kirby.

Is the ledge infinite grab legal??!??!??? the one king D3 has on wolf -.-

Not at stuff I throw :0

ive done plenty of silly **** in my day like that but this is just that much sillier

i'll get on it

Seriously laughed.

man that megamanrob or megarobman or whatever makes all you woof players look bad.

He's right. You guys are gonna have to kick it up a notch or something.

 

[Seagull Joe]

is so light that killing him is easy. Too bad one grab= 44% if you suck at SDI'ing the Uair.
Matchup is def even. has more problems then does though in the matchup because all his b moves except inhale cause RCO, his aerial mobility is trash, and we got dat projectile. His Bair isn't as safe as ours and we can punish it with Fsmash when it hits our shield.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I feel like no one besides Seagull even thinks i play this goddamn character

 

[Ishiey]

We can punish every single bair on shield with something lol, just gotta be quick. Idk, Kirby's not bad, but just so... standard. Also, it's kinda like Falco imo where just shielding when you're at kill %s is pretty helpful.

Mink, dw, we know you're one of us <3

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

how often do you guys use jump shine OoS?

I try to use it alot to get me out of a pickle, but idk how much better it is than just back rolling.
Also, i've found that using Utilt at low percents usually leads to a free grab or a charged Usmash if they airdodge.

 

[Ishiey]

My control scheme makes it tough to use so I don't use it, which is bad, because it's pretty helpful for relieving pressure. Rolling back is usually okay too, but you don't always have that kind of room on the stage, and it's beneficial to go airborne since then you can crossup your opponent with a bair.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

My ctrl scheme is Y - grab // R Special and tap jump off.

So i can OoS Shine and Rest....

and grabbing is just easier.

 

[Ishiey]

See, I'd probably do that too, except for the part where I use WiiChuck

 

[SinisterB]

Aerials OoS are generally just a good idea, but i'll use an empty jump every here and there when I feel sort of stuck or i'm mixing up mindgames. SHAD OoS into Dsmash works sometimes

Ish hurry up and start using master race GCC it will make you better

 

[Dnyce]

He's doing both a wavebounce and a b-reversal. It's pretty awesome :3

A wavebounce and a b-reversal would just be a turn around special.... nothing special about it.

 

[SinisterB]

Unless you're Wolf who has a million cross-ups.

And doing it in the air is better.


Olimars..

 

[Ishiey]

Idk what happened to my GCC, I had one but I think it got stolen or some **** :/

Dnyce, I messed up lol, I meant turnaround special by b-reversal... I think... what's the difference between a wavebounce, b-reversal, and turnaround special again? Iirc, a wavebounce reverses momentum (hitting the opposite direction shortly after starting the special), a turnaround special is exactly what it sounds like (opposite direction shortly before), and... b-reversal is a wavebounce? Idk :x

Also, while you're here, any idea if every character has the same frame data on their grounded techs/tech rolls? :3