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Why is Young Link a Peach Counter?

XIF

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A usual Peach comment against a Young Link user, i hope one day i play you.
hahaha... you type like we are some ancient ignorant creature of generations past, on the brink of extinction because of our own incompetence. >_>;

The usual peach comment? like wtf else are we supposed to say? oh noes we phale YL ownz us nuuuuuuu X_X. we could, but that'd be a lie. As far as the MM, which i suppose is a part of my "usual peach comment" well there's really only 2 options there. And the fact of the matter is that as far as I know, you dont go out of region, which hinders you in a way you cant comprehend. Its the same thing when people who dont know l-cancel, wavedash, etc... they simply cant understand or begin to comprehend what its like playing at the competitive level. If you're still under the delusion that your crappy character has hope against top tiers, then I can only assume that you just dont understand. winning 5 dollars would be nice, but I'd hope if we ever get the chance to money match, that you'd actually gain some knowledge about the game.

Vanz: i'll do a friendly peach ditto as well if you want.

Mikey Lenetia: you're awesome. But remember, such forays into the darkest depths of smash boards can bring entertainment.
 

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We're NOT Peach counters.... At the most, it's an even match-up. I play Ylink as a co-main behind IC and Peach as a secondary. Yes, peach has trouble weaving through the projectiles but once she actually reaches Ylink, things aren't looking up.

>_> <_<

Peach is one of our better high-tier match-ups though.
 

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We're NOT Peach counters.... At the most, it's an even match-up. I play Ylink as a co-main behind IC and Peach as a secondary. Yes, peach has trouble weaving through the projectiles but once she actually reaches Ylink, things aren't looking up.

>_> <_<

Peach is one of our better high-tier match-ups though.
truth/10

but I personally wouldnt even go as far to say that its an even matchup personally. Most definitely a counter, in the sense that all high tiers counter low tiers.

I agree with the last sentence completely, however.
 

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Jash and Vanz - Ya Y.Links against my Peach (SOLO, not 2 Vs. 1, ***s XD). $5 MM
umm, lolz ok. and if u want, we can redo the MM of my bowser v. ur peach :D

Vanz: i'll do a friendly peach ditto as well if you want.
cool, i'm going to C3, if ur going, we can do it there ^_^

Peach is one of our better high-tier match-ups though.
this is starting to make more sense to me. i was playing my teammates peach with YL, and while the matches were always close, he did win most of the time.
 

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truth/10

but I personally wouldnt even go as far to say that its an even matchup personally. Most definitely a counter, in the sense that all high tiers counter low tiers.

I agree with the last sentence completely, however.
I was saying even in the sense that it's even for Ylink at best.
 

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The matchup chart is stupid and should have been closed a long time ago.

I've never lost to Chu's Y.Link in tourny >_> In fact I've atleast 2 stocked it in all my matches.
 

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Young Link counters Peach if the user who is playing Young Link knows wtf he is doing.

Chu's YL is good, but he does'nt main YL. Which is why he probably does'nt understand the match up that well.
 

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Young Link counters Peach if the user who is playing Young Link knows wtf he is doing.

Chu's YL is good, but he does'nt main YL. Which is why he probably does'nt understand the match up that well.

Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa!!!!!

It seems like your saying the YL knows what he is doing but Peach does not. What happens when A peach knows the the heck she/he is doing. Give it a rest lajin. YL is a counter my azz. Last I heard, Mike pullled more wins off you than you ever did on him. Yea that sounds like a counter indeed. And Mike knows what he is doing. Its all about brains. Dont think you counter her cause you can spam happy free and do well at that. Or else I see no reason for you o lose to a Peach. Its simple, stay on a Spamming YL's azz and thats it. ended
 

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You all want to know the real reason why Young Link counters Peach? It is because God hates Peach and her users.

Not really, I think it is more an evenish matchup. Peach has a hard time aprroaching, but destroyes when she gets close. Sorta reminds me of the Link vs Mario matchup. .. .except more extreme on both sides for this matchup (Peach has a harder time approaching but owns much harder >_<). I think the reason people see Peaches winning so often is that the Young Links are not as good as the Peach players on a general smash level.
 

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You all want to know the real reason why Young Link counters Peach? It is because God hates Peach and her users.

Not really, I think it is more an evenish matchup. Peach has a hard time aprroaching, but destroyes when she gets close. Sorta reminds me of the Link vs Mario matchup. .. .except more extreme on both sides for this matchup (Peach has a harder time approaching but owns much harder >_<). I think the reason people see Peaches winning so often is that the Young Links are not as good as the Peach players on a general smash level.
Double post.

Quoted for the truth.
 

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Huh? No. Im saying Mike G beat Xif then Xif beat me then I beat Mike G.

I never said YL completely counters peach, he just has more of an advantage on her than Peach does over him.
Attacking for distance and able to evade well, yea I suppose he has that. Up close?, Peach takes it, all she has to do is get a hold of him, and if the player knows what he is doing, Peach is gonna do some damage. Also, People tend to lose patients against YL like this, so they will not play smart 24/7. Its like cops and robbers. Buts thats players that cant handle it, players that can only see it as a bit of an annoyence. But don't see it as a counter match up
 

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i thought common sense would have taken this thread over a long time ago...if YL were a hard counter for Peach, and she is a fairly common/high tier character seen in tournies, then why don't most people pick up YL to have against her? because it's not a hard counter, if a counter at all. peach is just a much more powerful character, so of course she's gonna dominate the matchup
 

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i thought common sense would have taken this thread over a long time ago...if YL were a hard counter for Peach, and she is a fairly common/high tier character seen in tournies, then why don't most people pick up YL to have against her? because it's not a hard counter, if a counter at all. peach is just a much more powerful character, so of course she's gonna dominate the matchup
the reason people don't pick up YL to fight peach is because they probably already have fox, marth, or their own peach which should do the job nicely.
 

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The real reason is that people aren't dumb enough to pick up a low tier for one match up that is entirely overrated. Just because Caveman beat a couple of Peaches 3 years ago does not make YL a counterpick.
 

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Young Link counters Peach if the user who is playing Young Link knows wtf he is doing.

Chu's YL is good, but he does'nt main YL. Which is why he probably does'nt understand the match up that well.
Yeah, I guess I won cause Chu doesn't know how to play.
 

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thats about as lame as excuses get =/
lolz, it wasn't my intention to make excuses. but it's very common for people to drift toward the high tier .. "antidote" rather than searching the low tier depths for something that will work just as well.

to put it simply, high tier is just easier
 

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Young Link counters Peach if the user who is playing Young Link knows wtf he is doing.

Chu's YL is good, but he does'nt main YL. Which is why he probably doesn't understand the match up that well.
Ooooh, ooooh, double bind!

If what Laijin says is true, than either he obviously doesn't know what he is doing because he got fucking 3 stocked on Peach's Castle, a level that Peach can't move on because she's so fucking slow, and 2 stocked on 2 neutrals, even the campalicious Stadium. If Laijin is wrong, than he's obviously spewing shit out of his ass. So which is it?

And! If Chu can beat some pretty solid Peaches without knowing what he's doing, and you, with your vast in depth knowledge of the insides and outs of Y. Link and amazing tourney record can't even beat XiF...then what hope do you have? Not to downplay XiF's accomplishments, but he doesn't have the tourney reputation that someone like Sastopher does.

And don't bring up Mike G; he's been 'retired' and out of the metagame for quite some time now - granted he's still an amazing player - but prowess such as his doesn't just disappear overnight. XiF is a more-than-competent tourney level player (but at the same time, not some super pro that would smoke you no matter what character he used), so if your theory is anywhere near true, you should have at least beaten him pretty solidly if Y. Link is a counter.

Laijin's theory only holds true if it is read like this "Young Link counters Peach if the user who is playing Young Link knows wtf he is doing and the Peach player doesn't." Which, if we're now basing theoretical matches on people not knowing the full extent of how to play the match up, then ring the alarm, because my bowser can 3 stock any Sheik at my school, and therefore is Bowser is obviously a Sheik counter; who cares if they don't know how to l-cancel, I'm using Laijin logic.

<3 <3 <3
 

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daaaaaaaaaaaayumm, how was all that profanity not censored??

btw, I'm definitely done contributing anything of relevance to this conversation cuz I think I lose it if I got blasted like that.. lolz
 

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::high fives 4 Cort::

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Lol i shouldve known losing to laijin at evan's tourney would do this.

if YL really countered peach then you would have gotten alot more wins off me than from this last tourney. The only time you give me any trouble with YL is when u spamcamp and even then I can handle it. It's jus that the last time we faced i didn't handle it because I got a bit annoyed as the vids show.


lol why is my peach brought into this anyway!? I'm freaking retired! kids these days... *takes out mushroom dentures and goes to sleep* old skool peach fo life xD
 

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lawwwlz.
DoH.

You should'nt believe everything you see on the internet. Take PDot's advice.

I'm just saying. Normally a person who does'nt main a character won't understand them as much as someone who does main them. Because the person who does main them obviously plays with that character ALL the time(which is why you main them in the first place, right?). I just said that Chu does'nt main Young Link as far as I know since he clearly picks Ice Climbers a lot more than he does YL.

Never once said his Young Link was bad or he did'nt know wtf he was doing with him. I'm just saying he understands Ice Climbers more than Young Link. Since he mains IC's.
 

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Who the **** cares who Chu mains. He's about 300x smarter in general than any other "Young Link main" in the universe.
 
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