The last paragraph/thing was 100% pointless - i am no idiot lol.
Well, theres nothing more i can say here. I'll go and find myself my own methods, and come back one day when i have actually cracked Marios strategic play, which i only began to unravel/think about recently due to playing no smash and leaving my cube miles away.
I don't think that i can outspace peach
, no methods to do so (as far as i am aware) have been developed as of yet. Whether or not its possible.. with my new smash mind-set, id have to get back to you on that one.
Remember my name. Mario is being played wrong by everybody who has ever touched him (me included). Somebody just needs to care enough, the current strategies are worthy of the bottom of the middle tier - it is 100% possible to reinvent this. He will never move up the tier, but i will crack how to use him as if he had been top tier all along.
ty for the opinions, the people who gave them.
j3ly outtt
A quote taken out of a thread i started in the peach threads (about brinstar and what an awesome CP it is against peach + others). As i said, yeah EVERYBODY is clearly playing mario wrong if he is so low on the tier list. If you believe in infinite dimension theory, there are an infinite amount of worlds where humans play the same smash, and Mario is the undefeated top tier. This is my honest outlook on Marios metagame
Airwalker - i couldn't agree more with your cape thing, but i think there is soo much more to it then that. The missed tech thing is a good use, i use it every now and again to thunder to an usmash and keep on my grab combo. But i hardly ever see it used as a defensive mindgame. Its a phaaaat disjointed HB, am i correct? i dont use it enough outside recovery/reflect to actually know this, i really should.
Still no-one has mastered the usage of edge-cancelled upB into a combo. Its hard, ill get it and record it some time. Situational, but 3 platforms to a level and 4 directions the move can go, no lagg? awesome move IMO if it can be mastered.
Also people don't use extendurr upB enough offensively, because it sends them behind and above of you, what an awesome place if they get sent over the edge. Like less than 7 frame startup time, i actually have no idea but its so fast. I see alot of potential for this move. Have you guys SEEN how big the final hitbox is!!? Its filthy, and psuedo spikes if the opp used their 2nd jump.
Against falcon and ganon, the Rock Crock with a reverse bair (nair will get you SD'd) is an instant KO on many stages. Hard to master, but i believe crucial in Marios game against falcon. Not so much ganon, but good none-the-less.
Dtilt has 2 uses, one is kinda rubbish (i've posted it somewhere in these forums) but the other is epic. Ill post a vid about it in the next 2/3 days, it can be used consistently too, unlike my dtilt over 100% when your enemies back is near the edge and tech chase, lol that doesnt really work that well neway
better options and the like
SHAUAWL - has anyone truly mastered this? i've pulled of a bunch of combos, where i flub the last uair (hit with the tip instead of the middle at kinda highish %'s), they go away too far and i think 'Dammit, if i could WL after that move consistently enough that combo could have been pure filth,' and im sure you have all felt the same way too.
Uses for downB? Comeon, 1000s of percent specific character setups, noone can honestly tell me there is no use. Better options maybe, but you Have to spend money to Make money! We as a community have to ACT, we need a Non spammy thread entitled Marios Metagame, where we can pose ideas, the original post can be edited, people can actually Spend their money (this is a metaphor for possibly loosing a few stocks in sacrifice for finding uses), and report back whether or not they Made any money. Then we can simply cross it off the list, and move onto the next technique. Possibly downB makes an awesome off the stage edgeguard against 1 character. Maybe even 2! Imagine! Or maybe none, and you die 20 times before realizing its pointless. Spend that money! Make some more!
I believe i am the only Mario to master the upB stage spike - gdammit, this move is soo awesome, nobody ive seen has EVER teched it deliberatly, and its an insta-KO against many chars. Also we can send them at 2 angles with the normal/extendurr. Again, i will be posting a youtube vid as soon as i get my cube (thursday/friday), with the areas the move should be used against what characters. Ill highlight the areas in red or something. Its not even that situational either.
Jab through messed up space animal recoveries, fall down and upB stage spike. Awesome gimp. Noone uses it =/ including me, i only have myself to blame though because i didn't think of it until i started seeing smash in the correct light. But i guess a falling/rising bair would do the trick just an nicely, maybe not in certain situations we will have to see. Its so frustrating, i could have spent the last 7/8 months using strategy unstead of rushing around trying to out tech-skill my opp.
Organisation is what it all comes down to, there are no Mew2Kings, or Kens to do everything for us, so we need to work together as a community, finding out the strats for Mario. I don't know about anyone else, but i take this **** so seriously, and i am Mario until the end. Or at least until my fox naturally progresses infront of my Mario, but i dont see that happening for 2 years or so, because ill never main anyone else. I have a feeling Rookie is the same way about mario. Sure there are the days where you feel like Mario was a terrible choice and is limiting your potential, but then there are those days you simply bombard through the regions best. Mario can do it.
I personally will be following through and perfecting all of the things i have mentioned - i will also be purchasing AR, and posting youtube vids of all of Marios hitboxes for our viewing pleasure. may find out something we didn't know. Maybe not - who cares, im in this for our community. Given most of my threads i made here were pointless situational bull****, but know that i only wanted to help the community.
Mario... ftw
cmon, it is possible.....