Shadowplusle
Smash Journeyman
i hope they dont nuke fox or capt falcon of their speed. taht would stink
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Who else is worried Brawl might not be that good?
- Thread starter Demon_machinE
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kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
While that's true, Peach also didn't cary dual bladed weapons, or a sword that slash at anemies repeatedly. Another thing is the fact that Meta and Pit have multiple jumps like Kirby.
However it's too early to say that it's imba. Who knows, maybe some characters have triple jump or something crazy like that to combat things like the glide? Also, let's not forget the fact that Snake can fly.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
How can Snake fly?!
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
He can. If you've ever played MGS2 you'd know.
Also, Sakurai confirmed it on the site pre-update.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Why don't you tell me how he can glide? Then I'll know.
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
He doesn't glide, he just flies. Snake can fly, he's a character that can fly.
RokkuManZer0
Smash Apprentice
I've played MGS2 and I don't really remember any sequence in the game where Snake flies. Unless you mean the part where he jumps off the bridge?
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Your favoritism to Snake is astounding. Snake doesn't fly, does he?
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
Rumor has it they can use those wings to sail through sky like gliders. But that can’t be true, can it?
GG snake. No glide 4 u
GG snake. No glide 4 u
Shadowplusle
Smash Journeyman
I hope they dont decide that all the boss characters arent playable.
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
WTF Snake can fly with his beard!!!
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Dude, you think too highly of Snake. He's a good character, but come on. How about when Brawl's online, my Mario and your Snake go one-on-one?
PrettyGoodYear
Smash Lord
I think the only (potential) character that could glide without wings would be Balloon Fighter... c'mon, it would suck if he couldn't.
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
Takeshi, characters who wear overalls and have simple jump mechanics will have a pretty hard time against characters who can fly...
Adi
Smash Lord
ZOMG THIS THREAD IS OFFTOPIC LOCK PLZ
(/sigh, had to get that out)
(/sigh, had to get that out)
raphtmarqui
Smash Lord
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Why? Wouldnt they still have to come down at some point to hit mario.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Kin3tic-c4jun-3, you're getting too deep into Snake because of your fanboyism to him. I know you want Snake to be beast, but I feel like we're getting off topic here. That was the reason why the other thread based on this closed.
kin3tic-c4jun-3
Smash Ace
They obviously couldn't handle the...
SANKE PWNAGE!!!!11111oneoneoneeleven
Also, if I wanted "Snake to be beast" I'd have to be mentally ********.
Caael
Smash Lord
It's no different with Me and the old Ridley thread. The new one is a second chance, to rebuild what you once had, and make it better. Sure as hell worked for our Ridley thread.
Y34HDUD3!!!
Smash Lord
*uses max revive*
BUMP!!!!!
Post or I will hit you with my nunchucks:
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Banks
Smash Hero
to add to the conversation, mew2king said a few times in the hub he thought brawl would suck, as all the levels shown so far are cheesy as hell and not good for tournament play, except for the battlefield remake =/
Kaburii
Smash Apprentice
You can't simply compare two games though and decide if they are tournament worthy. SSB and SSBM have totally different dynamics, thus making them different for players to master. The same will happen with Brawl.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
I think brawl might suck but to say that none of the stages are tourney worthy is ridiculous. Battlefield, Yoshi's island, lylat cruise, smashville, Pokemon Stadium 2, Skyworld and maybe rumble falls (since the movement isn't random) all look to be tournament legal. I don't see the problem. In melee, about half the stages (maybe less) were tourney legal. I think we will have about the same ratio in Brawl. I don't know what M2K was talking about.
gnosis
Smash Lord
Stages are rarely banned for the stuff we're seeing in the Brawl stages so far, like hazards and what-not.
There's very few stages in the MLG rule set that are banned for reasons other than camping spots or runaway tactics... like, Flat Zone and Big Blue? And since we're not sure what situations like those will look like in Brawl, I'm not comfortable saying any stage is a definite ban yet.
I mean, Green Greens is still legal in Melee. 'Cheesiness' is apparently not a ban-worthy offense =(.
There's very few stages in the MLG rule set that are banned for reasons other than camping spots or runaway tactics... like, Flat Zone and Big Blue? And since we're not sure what situations like those will look like in Brawl, I'm not comfortable saying any stage is a definite ban yet.
I mean, Green Greens is still legal in Melee. 'Cheesiness' is apparently not a ban-worthy offense =(.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Many stages in melee were banned because of waveshining off.
Let's take a look at brawl stages:
Wario Ware: Tons of potential hazards, similar to Superflat Zone, and maybe random stage movement
Eldin Bridge: BIG Hazard (pus it's random) and walk off edges (waveshines)
Castle Siege: Walk off sides (waveshines)
Delfino Plaza: Walk off sides
Meta knight's ship: Random Hazard, walk off sides (waveshines)
So basically, if waveshining is still as potent as in melee, half the stages will still be banned. Otherwise, most stages will be legal.
gnosis
Smash Lord
Waveshining is another reason, but I didn't mention it for several reasons. One being that all the stages that have it also have other offenses, like camping, etc. And second being that I don't think a walk-off edge is enough to warrant a ban based on waveshining alone.
Onett, for example, was on forever, and I don't remember a sudden surge of people waveshining each other off causing its ban. Namely because the stage's structure and hazards are disruptive enough to make the tactic highly situational. So I think a stage can have walkoff edges and be structured in a way that it doesn't make waveshining a broken tactic - which is why I didn't bring it up for Brawl. Though I guess I should of.
Anyway, if you look at the Nintendo World trailer, it -looks- like Fox's shine sends people upwards now, so who knows how walk-offs will be treated in Brawl (personally I think they have enough problems without waveshining...)
raphtmarqui
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The game looks fine so far. There hasnt been anything confirmed yet the would make the game broken.
yoshi_fan
Smash Ace
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These thread are starting to be anoying.
The facts:
1) melee was a RUSHED game.
2) this game has been worked for about 3 years (i think)
3) if every fan of every other fighting game of the world had worried about the sequels, there won't be any Street fighter fans or guilty gears fans.
Sooo peace
The facts:
1) melee was a RUSHED game.
2) this game has been worked for about 3 years (i think)
3) if every fan of every other fighting game of the world had worried about the sequels, there won't be any Street fighter fans or guilty gears fans.
Sooo peace
Yoshi fan: How was Melee rushed? You have no proof for this. Also, Brawl was announced at E3 in 2005, and at that time hadn't even started development, so were looking at a time frame of just over 2 years and that is assuming they started right at e3, which they didn't, they started several months after that point.
notftomearth7
Smash Lord
I'm only concerned their might be a lack of depth to the storyline and the amount of characters isn't more (or around the same) Than Melee!
yoshi_fan
Smash Ace
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Wtf, i can't even quote... why i can't see any forum images.
Well whatever, i have read about this. That sakurai did say they haven't got all the time he wanted and that's why some characters got movesets identical to others... so clones.
For example ganondorf was going to be too much diferent, but they didn't have enough time.
I don't know if i'm explaining correctly (or my english is sucking again, but meh)
Well whatever, i have read about this. That sakurai did say they haven't got all the time he wanted and that's why some characters got movesets identical to others... so clones.
For example ganondorf was going to be too much diferent, but they didn't have enough time.
I don't know if i'm explaining correctly (or my english is sucking again, but meh)
M.K
Level 55
It WAS stated that Super Smash Bros. Melee was rushed to meet deadlines, thus cancelling the inclusion of Snake and the reason for why we have clones. The fact is that the development of COMPLETELY NEW movesets was scrapped in favor of copy + paste sets. Brawl...shouldn't be rushed at least, I mean, it's probably already done.
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
Melee is better than brawl.