Who else is nervous about Brawl potentially sucking?

[Banks]

at l;east someone plays ganon, theres too few ganon players

 

[Red Exodus]

Ganon's WD is really short though, it doesn't look to useful unless you want to edgehog. I sorta main Ganon, I play Falcon more but sometimes I just pick Ganon to beat around some scrubs.

That's ironic lol, I didn't even see Bank's post before I wrote that. Time to watch Monk, later all.

 

[Banks]

ganons wavedash yea but his waveland has many uses, and its pretty great for helping him move around less clumsily

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Gannon is the king on platforms, platform dashing makes him a speed machine, combined with his power it makes him like 2x better on say dreamland than on FD.

 

[Banks]

i've never really played great ganon player, they are extinct lol

sensai should go mega-pro to fill the gap

 

[Zephyr]

I play regularly with the best Ganon in California. That's including Ken. His name's Saint Patrick, look him up on youtube cuz he has a ton of matches. He is INSANE.

 

[Banks]

yea i wouldn't doubt it, but living in maine i do not catch california people much. just isai and hugs when they come up to cataclysm

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Ill check out that ganon player

I can only find 3 matches of him on youtube.. do you have links to more?

 

[Zephyr]

Here's some of a best of 5 set between Bone (really good Peach) and Patrick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEfIYjhPS7A

St. Patrick vs. Bone Match 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLY0DOGK1PM

St. Patrick vs. Bone Match 4

Screw it, I'll just give you a link to a bunch of videos of the people I hang with.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=619ROMEO

Also, I checked again and there are not that many matches of him on Youtube. He just has a ton of footage. >_>

 

[Banks]

zephyr how would you say he stacks up to tipman bushman or eddie

 

[xeno]

Moderated air speed: in Smash 64 the attack recovery/lag combined with the slow fallspeed made air battles "moderated" compared to melee. for most characters its tougher to attack multiple times in the air in melee without having a platform. so that was pretty fun, if it was like that it'd be cool^^. Sakuri knows what he's doing.

 

[Banks]

if anything brawl will be a throwback to 64 and feel more like it. thats my prediction, also backed up by what u just said^

 

[Shai Hulud]

Ganon has an infinite with his wavejab =p

I like Patrick's use of the Falcon kick. I hardly ever see that put to good use. I also like to see Peach get *****, because Peach is just lame.

 

[Banks]

dont u mean WIZARD kick

 

[Red Exodus]

I want to try Wkicking as a spike but it's so situtational that I'll never do it, my friends only 'safe' [as in never jump off the stage] edgeguard anyway, all I have to do is sweetspot the ledge and I'm back on the stage most of the time.

 

[Zephyr]

A way to use Wizard's Foot as an edgeguard (which is not all that situational, to tell you the truth, it's pretty effective) is to jump up right near the ledge and do the move so that the move crashes you right into the ledge. It still spikes people below the ledge, which is pretty awesome.

Also, the only thing in the world more broken than Fox's up-smash is the 40% curve on my Calculus final. 0_0

 

[Red Exodus]

Thanks I never thought of that. I guess I'll own my friends with it next time I get a chance. When ever I play a character they say it's the best they've seen. To them right now I have the best Marth, ICs, Fox, Mario, Falcon, and Samus. It's pretty sad lol.

 

[AxemRed]

Gah, if I had a videocamera I could post some vids showing my playstyle too... I guess I'll have to compensate by showing my skill at Super Mario World. 'Cause, as we all know, Super Mario World and Super Smash Bros. are basically the same thing, right? *Shifty eyes*

Well, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UncSz_EzDE

 

[Red Exodus]

Lol, I don't have one either so we are in the same boat. I was gonna ask my mom if she was ever gonna consider getting one but she was sleeping [when I went to ask her last night and she left this morning before I woke up] so I have to wait until she gets home today.

I also have to get a new computer and some video stuff so my videos are watchable [glare is really bad where my tv is so unless I make the vids at night it'll be impossible to watch].

 

[Banks]

you didnt dash dance or wavedash in super mario world axem, you are not very good yet. lololol

 

[Shai Hulud]

dont u mean WIZARD kick

Yeah I don't know what all the moves are called so I just say Falcon kick or Falcon punch etc.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

The point being that captain falcon is the most awesome and manly character in the game and all the moves should be named after him. \m/

 

[Sensai]

The problem with the Wizard Foot is it's complete lack of priority. It can be used as a legitimite spike on some characters (Falcon comes to mind) but it's so easily beaten in priority...

Seriously. You can GRAB Ganon when he's Wizard Kicking.

 

[Red Exodus]

Wkick is pretty useless at lower percentages too, it's basically a free hit.

 

[SilintNinjya]

i know this means nothing to most people here...but its a beautiful move in 4ffa.

but it is kinda stupid that it gets stopped by some of the weakest projectiles in the game.

 

[Red Exodus]

It doesn't work for me in FFAs, and I have to play FFAs all the time or stop playing smash. The only thing that works in FFA is being complete ownage [like me] or hide and seek. I lose stocks easier because I have to keep the scrubs from hiding.

 

[Shai Hulud]

The problem with the Wizard Foot is it's complete lack of priority. It can be used as a legitimite spike on some characters (Falcon comes to mind) but it's so easily beaten in priority...

Seriously. You can GRAB Ganon when he's Wizard Kicking.

You can grab pepole out of anything whatsoever, as grabs have infinite priority.

 

[RenX]

First off excuse my grammer it sucks. now to the point.
I'm so sick of everyone saying this game is going to suck, it will never compair to SSBM.
The only reason we think this way is because we took the game to the limits, has anyone in this forum sat down and put 4 comps on and hit play? My point is the game is what we make of it. I remeber when SSBM came out everyone was like its never going to be as good as 64, Has hal labs. made a few bad games yeah maybe but does anyone know how many games they have made yet, and one of the BIGGEST franchises Super Smash Bros. Now with all this Wave Dash This wave dash that, before we could wave dash it was still fun. Does anyone really think that Sak. Was like no we will just take out wave dashing we will make this game slower, What i believe he wants to do is to Make it more competitive for the Smash Comm. He knows that we play, The Incresingness of combos is going to make the game alot harder to play and with added content its going to live up to ssbm its prob going to be better then SSBM have some faith in the people that have created one of your favorite games.

i want comments aginsit this i want people to tell me that i have no clue what im talking about and when brawl comes out i will find you on this very forum...have a nice day ill be awating respones

 

[Red Exodus]

That was discussed a long long long time ago [notice this is the 171th page], I don't feel like discussing it anymore, maybe one of the regulars will. This is more or an off-topic thread at this point.

 

[RenX]

then why are u even in this topic in the first place?

 

[RenX]

sorry im a lil edgy the admins always own my posts lol

 

[Red Exodus]

Like I said it's off-topic, we discuss whatever comes up, all someone has to do is post a one-liner that hasn't been overly dicussed and that becomes the topic. Read random pages past 100 to see what I mean.

 

[Sensai]

There's no way he could have known that though...

Check into the earlier pages of the thread for some actual discussion as to why the game will be ok or why it will be terrible. Still got comments/insights, we'll love hearing them.

And Shai: fine, you win. Haha. The point I was trying to move was that Ganon's Wizard Foot (and all his B moves except Up B, really) have terrible priority.

 

[leechy9]

well im not sure if nintendo can even recreate wavedashing. thats what im worried about, because ssbm has a weird momentum scale that was the first of its kind. which means that your characters actually have a set gravity and momentum rate and if it changes the characters may not be able to wavedash at all.

Another thing im worried about is if they use the motion sensitive controls. if they use that, then it wont b as fun i think cause i love playing with the gamecube controller.

all i hope is that they keep wavedashing and that they create a good controller for the game and that they dont use the classic controller or motion sensitive controller.

 

[RenX]

i belive it will be using the gamecube controller cuz if ne of u have have played DBZT2 then u know iu can use the WIi mote or the gcc

 

[leechy9]

wow that is definitely a relief cause i really dont want to use the wii mote, its not good for fighting games really.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Yay, an excuse to post my image again.

 

[Banks]

Why do you have a picture of Azen holding a wiimote?

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Why do you have a picture of Azen holding a wiimote?

hahahhahahhahaa

 

[Banks]

no offense to azen of course >_> lolol