Krystedez
Awaken the Path
Atomsk, we need to play sometime, I wish we did at SiiS, it would have been great D3 practice before playing coney.
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Wario Q&A Thread
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toobusytocare
Smash Lord
ily boo <3
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
Hah, he doesnt want to play me with his Snake so yeah I get more MK and CF experience from now on, never have enough of that.
That's why I don't get the glut hype, sure, maybe because he's young, but aren't we all? <3
Also, his bike...bike...bike skills...aren't...refined enough. They are good, however, IM BETTER (Starwolf out)
That's why I don't get the glut hype, sure, maybe because he's young, but aren't we all? <3
sulks in a corner because he's 20 years old just this year T________T
Also, his bike...bike...bike skills...aren't...refined enough. They are good, however, IM BETTER (Starwolf out)
Blue Rogue
Smash Ace
You guys are lolz, Wario is terrible.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
wow a blue rogue sighting I may print save this page.
Blue Rogue
Smash Ace
I namesearch "Wario" and "good" when I want a laugh.
SnackAttack
Smash Champion
Yup. More nonconstructive posts.... if you're not gonna say anything helpful, then be like Hunger and not post at all..
hunger!
Smash Champion
im the most helpful.
leatherhead93
Smash Journeyman
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Atmosk if you just didn't use dacus so much and used tires more your wario would be da bess hands down 
I saw at VC it actually cost you the match on frigate its a good follow up but once peole start to read it.........not so much.
I saw at VC it actually cost you the match on frigate its a good follow up but once peole start to read it.........not so much.
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
never heard of it, but you'd best elaborate if you want any kind of feedback from those of us willing to test it. It may be their form of trolling newb warios like Pit's stupid...ah... Iwont spoil it.
I'll try to translate.
It seems like...
A Dthrow... to a Zig zag motion dash grab which buffers it a specific way that enables the dash grab to connect.
And you only have a 5 frame window to input all of the inputs.
He's showed me on live feed, so it's pretty sick.
But I have work. I'll invest time into this later.
It seems like...
A Dthrow... to a Zig zag motion dash grab which buffers it a specific way that enables the dash grab to connect.
And you only have a 5 frame window to input all of the inputs.
He's showed me on live feed, so it's pretty sick.
But I have work. I'll invest time into this later.
kaak
Smash Journeyman
I guess the advantage may be more than that, the reason dtilt hits and grab doesn't is probably the fact that dtilt simply has more range. I wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese stuff ends up being a buffered foxtrot grab or something.
~Chair
~Chair
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
Aight.
Sounds like something worth looking into, if it weren't for the fact that I don't understand how it techs into it and is a chain grab...its weird... I've tried it on both chars and it seems to not work cuz you can jab or nade or roll with snake and dedede can just spot dodge or roll....
Sounds like something worth looking into, if it weren't for the fact that I don't understand how it techs into it and is a chain grab...its weird... I've tried it on both chars and it seems to not work cuz you can jab or nade or roll with snake and dedede can just spot dodge or roll....
kaak
Smash Journeyman
Need moar extensive frame data
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I remember talks about a d3 CG a couple of months ago DMG said it didn't work and eventually a buffered dtilt thread came out of it some how. *shrugs* I remember seeing in the d3 boards that Wario was able to CG d3. But no1 would say how. Also a CG on d3 and snake would be sex.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
you teaming with a pika at GC?
toobusytocare
Smash Lord
it would have to be more than 5 frames because wario has the fram advantage to CG snake and D3 just like falco and the others, but snake and D3 fall too far away
MK too
thats why you can CG them on slants and against walls (well just one regrab unless its the mountain part of PS1
slikvik
Smash Master
Pwneroni
Smash Lord
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Okay so anyone remember that Snake grenade tossing strategy I was talking about? The one where you ADC (Air Dodge Cancel) Toss the grenades back at him to counter camping. Well in fact I was practicing this strategy last night and found some interesting things out.
When I was testing it out, it happened like hunger and tbtc said it would happen. When I tried to insta throw the first grenade, it was stripped out of my hands because the second nade was being pulled at that time. Consequently I was blown up multiple times for tons of damage. Not good.
However, I modified the strategy a little bit. Now it's a little more situational, but still useful. If you can grab the second grenade before the first nade explodes, you can ADC Toss it easily back at the Snake. It is easiest to do this if you are in between Snake and the first grenade. You have to be careful though, because if the first grenade explodes, then the second grenade that you want to toss becomes the "first" (strippable) grenade, and that's not good.
Basically it's a useful thing to keep in mind, and if the Snake cooks the grenades then you are able to poke in with a fair to apply pressure. A lot of zoning and pressuring with spacing involved here, with timings on the grenades being important.
Make sense?
When I was testing it out, it happened like hunger and tbtc said it would happen. When I tried to insta throw the first grenade, it was stripped out of my hands because the second nade was being pulled at that time. Consequently I was blown up multiple times for tons of damage. Not good.
However, I modified the strategy a little bit. Now it's a little more situational, but still useful. If you can grab the second grenade before the first nade explodes, you can ADC Toss it easily back at the Snake. It is easiest to do this if you are in between Snake and the first grenade. You have to be careful though, because if the first grenade explodes, then the second grenade that you want to toss becomes the "first" (strippable) grenade, and that's not good.
Basically it's a useful thing to keep in mind, and if the Snake cooks the grenades then you are able to poke in with a fair to apply pressure. A lot of zoning and pressuring with spacing involved here, with timings on the grenades being important.
Make sense?
slikvik
Smash Master
sounds obvious
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
No I'm actually having a hard time following. I can't visualize what you mean.
Grenade 1 is cooking you fair? ??
Grenade 2 is caught and you throw it back???
How much space is between you and snake? Sorry but I'm more of a visual learning and can't really keep up unless you go into a lot of detail. There's also a lot of thinks to come to mind like. What snake is doing while the nade 1 is cooking? How are you close enough to throw the second gernade? Why are you at a distance when you can catch the 2nd nade and throw it back at him ? Makes no sense to me please explain more if you can or make a vid.
Pwneroni
Smash Lord
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Grenade 1 is on the field, ideally behind you. Snake is in front of you, pulling out the second grenade. If he chooses to throw grenade 2, you can ADC Toss it back at him with no worry of it being stripped. However if grenade 1 explodes, grenade 2 becomes grenade 1 basically and he can strip it from your hands.
If he chooses to cook grenade 2, you can fair poke to apply pressure while he holds it (so you're not just standing there).
It is confusing without video xD hope this looks good enough
If he chooses to cook grenade 2, you can fair poke to apply pressure while he holds it (so you're not just standing there).
It is confusing without video xD hope this looks good enough
slikvik
Smash Master
nice pic. i already do this. I'm just not as good with insta throwing as i should be. practicing it though
So fox is kinda gay. Anybody with notable fox experience willing to provide input on the match-up
So fox is kinda gay. Anybody with notable fox experience willing to provide input on the match-up
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
I don't have any notable fox EXP so nothing I say could be of any help =/.
Avoid usmash and don't fall behind.
Blue Rogue
Smash Ace
"Anybody with notable Fox experience" is pretty much no one.
All this grenade stuff, I feel throwing the grenade back towards Snake just limits you more unless you're crazy good and know exactly where and when it will hit. If you can get that close while he's holding a nade, move in quick and take advantage of him being limited(no tilts and grab shenanigans are limited). Free pokes.
All this grenade stuff, I feel throwing the grenade back towards Snake just limits you more unless you're crazy good and know exactly where and when it will hit. If you can get that close while he's holding a nade, move in quick and take advantage of him being limited(no tilts and grab shenanigans are limited). Free pokes.
Krystedez
Awaken the Path
I'd tell ya but its hard to describe the MU...
I'll try anyways :/
Stay on him at all times when you've got a hit in, it's so hard for Fox to DI multi hit moves like Wario's dair, especially if you keep him guessing at what way you're going. So keep dairing him for damage, nair him for interrupts, fsmash at the end of his bad landing lag, and then edgeguard his *** the best you possibly can.
Other than that, don't go FD, play patient, but stay aggro cuz its stupid trying to outcamp a campy fox. Lasers WILL eat your stock up. Go somewhere like bf or yi, maybe ps1
I'll try anyways :/
Stay on him at all times when you've got a hit in, it's so hard for Fox to DI multi hit moves like Wario's dair, especially if you keep him guessing at what way you're going. So keep dairing him for damage, nair him for interrupts, fsmash at the end of his bad landing lag, and then edgeguard his *** the best you possibly can.
Other than that, don't go FD, play patient, but stay aggro cuz its stupid trying to outcamp a campy fox. Lasers WILL eat your stock up. Go somewhere like bf or yi, maybe ps1