Walgreens Mafia - DRAW game - The mod ****ed up pretty bad...=/

[#HBC | Laundry]

Sigh.

You guys are idiots. Kantrip's not going to blow me up because--guess what--he's scum and he doesn't want to die. That was always his goal by outting himself--he essentially put himself in a position where he should not ever have to explode until it's beneficial to him.

I hope you take a long look at yourselves after I flip. I hope you take a long look at your priorities and figure out what to do. Logic is seemingly beyond you guys at the moment. Kantrip needs to blow me up, for multiple reasons. The fact that he keeps beating around the bush is just not right, and people are being bat**** up the ****ing belfry about this. I don't know if town can win at this rate right now if it's getting stuck on the scrubs/obvious bad players as its lynch candidates while the more likely scummers (Gorf, Kantrip, and potentially Mentos/July) are getting off free.

Someone take your vote off. I don't want a quickhammer here.

I would be mad if I didn't see a good gogdamn reason. I do though. I replaced into a scummy slot so I already knew I had an uphill battle and you *******s are not inclined to believe my slot over Kantrip's. I'm disappointed though. I expected some sense of listening and understanding here but people are too keen not to give someone a fair shake here. I'd look into Gorf for that reasoning alone tomorrow.

 

[T-block]

i actually agree

RR should unvote

i thought kantrip had already agreed to do it?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Stop the guilt trip andd give me a straight answer.

Will you live if blown up, Y/N?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

My role doesn't specifically mention Bombs and it talks about NKs and NKs alone. I have no idea how a bomb shot would work on me.

 

[T-block]

kantrip has already claimed it specifically goes through BP

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I missed that.

Nuke me *******.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Result 1: Kantrip is scum and we lynch him for not doing it.
A: Town flip means we look at WL.
B: Scum flip means WL is town and we got a paper trail.
Result 2: WL is scum and Kantrip took out a scummy.
Result 3: We don't use it an lynch WL
A: WL flips town and we look into the crumb Kantrip saw.
B: WL flips scum and we hold off on Kantrip using his ability.
Alternative: Lynch Asdioh.

Seems to be what is going through my head atm.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Forgot one.

Result 4: Both flip town, possible but I'm skeptical of the crumb and how Sokr played before WL replaced in, Guess I'll think about it when I drive for a few hours.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You're testing me.

You're trying to get a townie for a scum, since your lynch is imminent at this point.

If this isn't true, then claim what your role actually is so I can figure out if you're a lying scumbag or not.

No, I'm not testing you. I think your *** is scum because your claim is **** and your play is just as bad. You and your buddy Gorf are taking advantage of a good opportunity to hit a much more powerful slot while it's in a terrible position and you're not nuking me despite practically confirming me as scum in your mind. The whole "You're trying to get a townie for a scum" thing is perception in your mind. I am town. Nothing I've done has hinted towards the ulterior--if you think I'm lying about my role, think about the bloody role I claimed. I'm not trying to get a town for a scum. I'm trying to get a scum for a town. I don't believe you for a second and your lynch is actually the best thing for town as you're essentially a wild card capable of pulling the trigger whenever you feel like it and we would have no say in that.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Do I have to put this in big bold letters again? I will.

The reason why Kantrip's lynch is best for us, not even counting his claim, is that he's not trustworthy. He's promised that he'll blow up whoever town tells him to blow up. But that's like Gheb promising Town he'll kill whoever they want him to kill in Lost mafia, where he was an Indy SK. There's no control over when he does and doesn't explode (if you think we have any, you're deluding yourself), and he could just as easily be priming himself to nuke the first power role that claims. I don't trust him, I don't see why you guys trust him (nothing his play has done has comforted me), and it's just not ProTown to leave him around capable of nuking someone and throwing the game into LyLo whenever he ****ing feels like it. I'm surprised no one came to this conclusion when he claimed and I wanted to toss all of you through a window when he did claim it and the immediate reaction was oh, okay.

He's a wild card. Regardless of whatever he says, he will be a wildcard. If he actually does have the balls and he nukes me, this game will go into night phase regardless of what he is, and you will be in a terrible position tomorrow. Think about the detriment his role places on town for a gogdamn second, at the very least.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote Vote Kantrip

Blow up Laundry by the 28th or else you're scum.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Finally .

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP: NEver mind that "not even counting his claim" part. That's supposed to be "not even counting his play."

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

hereby advocating use of kantrip's ability on WL as our lynch toDay. do it four to five days before the deadline imo.

**** like this is what makes me believe you should be looked into.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

The thing is... there's still a chance that that's WL's role, even with that whole PR thingy. It's not discriminent at all. Why would Sokr be exited for BP when there's really no Night action taking place (which I'm assuming is what is meant by the whole he likes PRs thing)...

Kantrip...

will you get your *** out of the critic armchair and actually do something decisive for once/more often. a good majority of your posts this game are like this and that thoroughly bothers me from a player of your caliber, gorf. you should be doing better, but you're not.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Wait, there's something that doesn't fit in this whole Kantrip vs WL regarding the BP crumb/claim/fake crumb/etc... if Sokr crumbed his role at some point, and if WL is now lying (which would mean WL is scum and probably the crumb Sokr did was a fake crumb), wouldn't then WL's scummates told them what was the fake crumb Sokr did?¿?

make more of your posts like this i actually read them

<3 you for this

 

[Asdioh]

Offer a 20% discount on all of Walgreens' tuna cans: Asdioh

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Hell you thought he was town, regardless of your idea of his role (cuz you ain't got nothing to back that aside from meta and stuff so :|)... /QUOTE]

oh gog so this.

Did town collectively forget how much Kantrip grilled Sokr at the start of the game? Yet despite how many questions he asked it took forever to label him scum? Then, suddenly, he believes Sokr to be town out of the collective blue and no one questions it? To the point where Gheb said that if Sokr flips town, Kantrip should be lynched next and Kantrip got super-defensive about it? And then he comes in here with some form of a gambit and labels it as super scummy that I am exactly what he tried to gambit?

There's nothing suspicious about this? Really?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Yeah Frog that doesn't make much sense. ಠ_ಠ


Currently more willing to lynch WL than Rajam, as before.
Currently considering WL's stance on Kantrip, since WL's actions don't make much sense assuming {WL scum} + {Kantrip town}
Currently dreading ever reading through Kantrip's posts because I'm sure there are a lot of them, and they will be filled with craziness regardless of alignment.

Currently thinking Gorf is suspicious, still. >:3

Asidoh is so town guys

WL thinks Kantrip doesn't have a suicide role, since he has a scumread on him. He's daring him to use it, and plans on lynching him if he fails.

I never dismissed the idea of him being a suicide role. I just think he's probably scum if he's telling the truth about it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Kinda skimmed Rajam's most recent posts. He's town in my eyes.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Now I'm done with the multiposts.

 

[T-block]

ah nvm, but I still think you're pushing it a little too far in not believing Kantrip's claim when he basically claimed a super-easy-to-check-at-any-time role, which I don't see scum doing. Still my question of why you want to use the ability now Day 1 / Night 1 remains, instead of waiting some more when more solid info regarding night actions/flips is on the table. You seem to want to use the ability now desperately just because

you seem oblivious to the fact that very few people actually trust kantrip at the moment. nobody cares that you happen to have a town read on him tbh. have you considered the possibility that it's scum claiming an ability that's so anti-town to use that they'll never be asked to use it?

Result 1: Kantrip is scum and we lynch him for not doing it.
A: Town flip means we look at WL.
B: Scum flip means WL is town and we got a paper trail.
Result 2: WL is scum and Kantrip took out a scummy.
Result 3: We don't use it an lynch WL
A: WL flips town and we look into the crumb Kantrip saw.
B: WL flips scum and we hold off on Kantrip using his ability.
Alternative: Lynch Asdioh.

Seems to be what is going through my head atm.

why do i get the impression that you're not completely familiar with what's happened? you should reread.

**** like this is what makes me believe you should be looked into.

i'm advocating exactly what you think is the best course of action lol

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I get what you're doing, just the way you're wording it makes me pause.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

hey freeblock, you should vote kantrip

 

[T-block]

i think i've made my wishes for kantrip pretty clear even without a vote, but i'll oblige

unvote
vote: Kantrip

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm still in catch up status but at the same time I'm also aware of late events since I've skimmed/read them. Basically I'm switching between addressing issues from my catch up and addressing some recent issues. I wanted to see WL insights and then Kantrip's gambit called my attention.

K.

Gorf answer my previous questions

Sorry, I probably either skimmed over them or intentionally didn't address them, mind quoting/restating the questions you really care about the answers to? Thanks homie.

Even if somehow Kantrip is scum and didn't see the claim, he still should have scummates and the probability of all of them missing the claim is.... zero

The only other scenario of scum-Kantrip is Kantrip being indy but if that's the case why did he claim a suicide role then

Just no and no. All this just sums towards Kantrip town

I mean I'm not really sold on Kantrip scum, but that's really not a good reason to clear him dude. As scum I skim over things all the time, and honestly I STILL don't even know where you claimed since it was probably, like, nonchalant. I don't see any alignment determinant factor from missing a claim ._.

This is not an explanation. Regardless of it's scummy or anti-town, you're not specifying why me considering scummy Asdioh in the T-block vs RR exchange (when Tblock's miller claim was still up) is/was weird

Honestly it was probably such a case of "Why is Rajam doing this?" rather than "This looks really suspicious of Rajam" that I forgot about that point at all, if it really matters to you that much, specify it and I'll try to look back and see if I remember what I found to be off about it.

 

[Kantrip]

Fine. -.-

I had so much more planned for this. The role I claimed was and is fake. I am not a terrorist. I can't bomb anyone, we'll have to lynch normally. Commence facepalms from everyone who saw this coming.

WashedLaundry, now that you've gotten this out of me can I get you telling us what your actual role is? I continue to refuse to that you are actually BP, especially that I would just happen to guess that that's the case; it's not.

I'm sure there are questions, and probably people who want to lynch me for this too. Bring on either, I guess.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Unvote Vote Kantrip

Talk about an epic ninja.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

After reading this page I'm inclined to let Laundry live to see toMorrow and definitely inclined to see Kantrip lynched.

 

[T-block]

laughing so hard

Still mad that you continued the facade when I was taking so much crap for it though. Gonna reread that for sure

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Guys wanna see something funny?

 

[Kantrip]

Why I did it initially: I was in a moment of frustration about how I play this game, that was legitimate. I intended to pull out a suicide dayvig gambit with it and I was using my frustration as leverage to make it look more legitimate. I decided to use the terrorist front for two reasons: One is that it would play hand-in-hand with the frustration and would help to make the whole claim look plausible. The other reason is that it's not just the same old dayvig gambit which no one falls for.

Why I maintained it when T-block knew what I was doing: Other people had pointed out suspicion with how T-block reacted to the claim at first. So we pursued that path a bit further, and T-block said he thought it was a gambit. Knowing he was right I was inclined to just retract it right there, but I was getting a read on T-block by that time and decided to keep up the act longer and see what I could see. Eventually I got the feeling that T-block was actually warming up to my role and I thought I could ride it out and try a "dayvig gambit" with it later. I was planning on pulling this on Rajam to see how he reacted, since:
A. He hadn't read in depth and he wouldn't catch my screw-up where I said I have to PM the command to the mod yet I would be using a bolded command in-thread.
B. He believed my role so I think I would get a genuine reaction.
C. He was one of the top scum targets.
I was waiting for a good time to do this - sometime after a votecount so we'd have time until the next one would be ideal in my eyes - but I also wanted Rajam to be here to be sure his reaction would be genuine.

Another reason was for the drawing of scum power roles out of fear of my strongman suicide bomb. Roleblocks, redirects, NKs, anything I could draw would be excellent.

Also that reminds me that I should claim right now and since I was trying to draw scum roles it's pretty clear I'm a VT. I claim Vanilla Townie.

There was more I wanted to say but I forgot.

 

[Kantrip]

laughing so hard

Still mad that you continued the facade when I was taking so much crap for it though. Gonna reread that for sure

I'm not sorry about that, I suspected you at that time and the content was valuable.

 

[Kantrip]

For everyone that wants to lynch me I want to see the reasoning present besides the fake claim. I still think there's stuff A LOT more conclusive for WL and I don't see why Gorf is letting him live. Gorf was the ONE WHO SAID WE SHOULDN'T LET HIS POSTS AFFECT US. Seems scummy for some reason, possible connection.

 

[T-block]

unvote

it's going to be painful rereading this series of events

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh god, what the hell?

Now i gotta reread on sunday when i got a comp.

Uggg.

 

[T-block]

conclusion thus far: kantrip is a pooface

it's so convenient that your claim came at a time when there was significant attention on you, and turned the game into asking about details of your ability.

the thing that bothers me most is this: if you say your original intention was to use it on rajam (AS I SUSPECTED), then WHY THE **** DID YOU NOT PULL THE GAMBIT WHEN I WAS HELPING YOU? if that was your original intention, i would have expected you to pull the trigger soon after i started jumping up and down going "PICK RAJAM PICK RAJAM". but you didn't. in fact, you make this post

Yeah T-block shouldn't have missed things he missed.

man this phone sucks

you let the attention fall to me. did you really not realize that i was just helping you with your gambit?

and then you waited SO FREAKING LONG that any gambit you would have pulled wouldn't even have been all that effective.

seriously,

WHAT
THE
****

 

[T-block]

i reeeeally want to say that you claimed to get yourself out of the spotlight and then along the way thought "oh cool, we can get a t-block lynch"

but i'm not sure if that's accurate

so explain yourself

 

[Kantrip]

No I did realize that was what you were doing. But helping with a gambit can be done by maf, so I decided a read on you would be both more valuable and more conclusive than a dumb gambit on Rajam. So I rolled with that.

The claim did kind of get suspicion off of me yeah, but that's something I'd want as either alignment AS LONG AS IT ACCOMPLISHES SOMETHING ELSE.

 

[Kantrip]

i reeeeally want to say that you claimed to get yourself out of the spotlight and then along the way thought "oh cool, we can get a t-block lynch"

but i'm not sure if that's accurate

so explain yourself

I already explained, what else do you want? I didn't want a T-block lynch, I wanted some valuable and genuine T-block content.