Hobobloke
Atemon Game
Lol at me. I guess the pools could me managed so Sam, Vlade, and Ric are all in different pools, but whatever it doesn't bother me.
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[WA] Perth Smash Thread
- Thread starter Vlade
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Marteh
Smash Lord
Well now what I know the pools are I'm actually all for the idea, just as long as Im put with the weaker players 
swordsaint
Smash Master
Pools should be seeded correctly on past results anyhow.
Vlade, Sam and Richard are an impossibility for the same pool.
Vlade, Sam and Richard are an impossibility for the same pool.
Marteh
Smash Lord
The only issue I see with the pool system is it can be thrown, although I doubt anyone would do that. Still look at it like this.
Pool 1
Player A wins all 6 of his matchs
Player B has won 3
Player C has won 3
Player D has won 0
If player B's last match is against Player A, and player A/B are good friends, that means Player A could throw the match allowing Player B to enter the Brackets, instead of having a B v C match to determine it.
I hope I explained that well enough.
Pool 1
Player A wins all 6 of his matchs
Player B has won 3
Player C has won 3
Player D has won 0
If player B's last match is against Player A, and player A/B are good friends, that means Player A could throw the match allowing Player B to enter the Brackets, instead of having a B v C match to determine it.
I hope I explained that well enough.
swordsaint
Smash Master
It's a possibilty that can be utilised, but I would like to think that people won't use such low tactics to make it through yes? Also I fixed the figures.
Marteh
Smash Lord
What are you talking about Saint? Those figures were correct all along *shifty eyes*
Personally I can't see any of the people who are regulars at the tournaments doing so, I'm more worried about if the scene expands.
Personally I can't see any of the people who are regulars at the tournaments doing so, I'm more worried about if the scene expands.
Hobobloke
Atemon Game
I wouldn't trust that Travis guy. Sure he's extremely smart, witty and attractive, but there's something suspicious about him.
Marteh
Smash Lord
Actually highly amusing considering I was going to end my last post with
"Personally I can't see any of the people who are regulars at the tournaments doing so, isn't that right Trav"
But decided to change it... >>: YOU STOLE MY PUNCHLINE!
"Personally I can't see any of the people who are regulars at the tournaments doing so, isn't that right Trav"
But decided to change it... >>: YOU STOLE MY PUNCHLINE!
Bsrk_
Smash Ace
That's why you bag the hell out of people who may be doing it_ personally if someone decides to cheat i wouldn't have any problems throwing them out of the tournament altogether_ Tough love keeps the system fair_ Also this pool system sounds a bit like soccer tbh_
Personally i hate your new money system Vlade_ Competitions have always been about winning and it should be kept competitive by keeping the prize pool divided only by 1st and 2nd (possibly 3rd, thinking of you here Ric)_ I can understand your argument, but everybody knows that winning gets the prize and i haven't yet seen a problem with people socializing or making an effort to be part of the community_
No need to change what already works to make it 'fair', sport does it, so should we_ Winning should yield rewards and so be it if Sam has remained a constant winner, he obviously deserves it if his results are frequent_ Keep the competition blazing so people want to win_
I'll have my laptop in August, so might be able to organise recordings etc_
Corpsecreate
Smash Lord
While it makes sense and while I do understand your point of view, with the system that Vlade proposed, the person coming 1st actually makes more money with this new system than the standard 60/30/10. This is because with an increase of entry fee of $5 (from $5 to $10) that is a doubling of prize pot, for it to be equal, the 1st person would get 1/2 of 60% which is 30%. Since 1st gets 48% with the new system, that is 18% of the pot higher than being equal of the old system.
An example.
30 people with New system: Pot is $300, 1st gets $144.
30 people with Old system: Pot is $150, 1st gets $90.
144/90 = 1.6 and as you may have noticed, 48/30 = 1.6 also.
What does this mean? It means that the new system Vlade proposed gives the player coming 1st an extra 60% winnings than what they would get with the old system. 2nd place would get an extra 46% and 3rd place would get an extra 180%. So while it does spread the money around to higher placing contestants, the 'competition for 1st place' is actually stronger. The downside however is that those that do not place highly lose out on $10 instead of $5
Corpsecreate
Smash Lord
Well it wouldnt be fair for one. You would also have to then pay after the tournament is over instead of starting which causes problems with registration. It wouldnt be hard to enter a tournament and then leave without paying once your knocked out. Basically it would be a disaster
Bsrk_
Smash Ace
Thanks for clarifying this Sam_ I probably also didn't clarify myself by stating to keep the system (including payments) as is_ If that is the case, then i can see validity in this new proposal, although this may force tournaments to be held on a monthly basis_While it makes sense and while I do understand your point of view, with the system that Vlade proposed, the person coming 1st actually makes more money with this new system than the standard 60/30/10. This is because with an increase of entry fee of $5 (from $5 to $10) that is a doubling of prize pot, for it to be equal, the 1st person would get 1/2 of 60% which is 30%. Since 1st gets 48% with the new system, that is 18% of the pot higher than being equal of the old system.
An example.
30 people with New system: Pot is $300, 1st gets $144.
30 people with Old system: Pot is $150, 1st gets $90.
144/90 = 1.6 and as you may have noticed, 48/30 = 1.6 also.
What does this mean? It means that the new system Vlade proposed gives the player coming 1st an extra 60% winnings than what they would get with the old system. 2nd place would get an extra 46% and 3rd place would get an extra 180%. So while it does spread the money around to higher placing contestants, the 'competition for 1st place' is actually stronger. The downside however is that those that do not place highly lose out on $10 instead of $5
I'm still wanting to organise a 'smashfest' in between tournaments_ That should lead to a community event every 2 weeks_
Corpsecreate
Smash Lord
sounds good to me
Marteh
Smash Lord
Quick message to everyone with homebrew. The new system update seems fine for homebrew but completely pointless. IMO dont bother
Vlade
Social Outcast
Samuel pretty much pointed out what I had in mind, since we're increasing the entry fee the first place winner gets more money anyway.
Bob, be my guest and organise a smashfest
I would organise one (my dad would actually probably let me) but I wouldn't be able to have more than 6 people or so. 10 at the most, but we'll have to see. It would be much better if someone else organised the smashfests since I'm organising the tournaments But I'll actually ask my dad if enough people are interested (note that I can't have more than 10 people round, and it needs to be a reasonable balance of 'kids' and 'adults' so my parents aren't concerned).
Bob, be my guest and organise a smashfest
I would organise one (my dad would actually probably let me) but I wouldn't be able to have more than 6 people or so. 10 at the most, but we'll have to see. It would be much better if someone else organised the smashfests since I'm organising the tournaments
But I'll actually ask my dad if enough people are interested (note that I can't have more than 10 people round, and it needs to be a reasonable balance of 'kids' and 'adults' so my parents aren't concerned). I would go but if there is only a max number of people allowed then i won't make it. Since there are 6 more important people in this thread then me.
Also clicky:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241448
Also clicky:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241448
skillskillfiretruck
Smash Journeyman
4 4 4 4
QUOTE THIS AND YOUR FUGLY in the inside and the outside...
same.I was kidding anyway.
Metaknight/Snake/Falco are my mains.
And from watching the finals I think I can take on vlade and Sam.
QUOTE THIS AND YOUR FUGLY in the inside and the outside...
Bsrk_
Smash Ace
Yeah Vlade i would love to host Smashfest/ co-host tourneys, but my main qualm is finding a central venue which i am still in the process of_ In otherwords i forget sometimes when i'm caught up in school work >_>
Smashfests would probably require a small entrance fee if held at a venue, but will hopefully allow for more events and even my favourite, PIZZA (or other takeaway for people who are pizza racists)_ This should hopefully give people more time for MM's and side events (Tets vs Cap etc)_
My only issue is finding a viable venue so it could be another month or 2_
Smashfests would probably require a small entrance fee if held at a venue, but will hopefully allow for more events and even my favourite, PIZZA (or other takeaway for people who are pizza racists)_ This should hopefully give people more time for MM's and side events (Tets vs Cap etc)_
My only issue is finding a viable venue so it could be another month or 2_
Vlade
Social Outcast
Who's up for a Tatsunoko vs Capcom tournament? :D
Ideally smashfests aren't held at a venue, but if they are then the fee should be no more than $5. After all, what they're for are for people to hone their skills, get to know each other more, and build the community.
I have no idea to start when looking for a central venue :S
Ideally smashfests aren't held at a venue, but if they are then the fee should be no more than $5. After all, what they're for are for people to hone their skills, get to know each other more, and build the community.
I have no idea to start when looking for a central venue :S
Hobobloke
Atemon Game
Smashfests sound good, curse you perth and your lack of venues!
Tatsunoko vs Capcom probs wouldn't be my thing I just mash buttons and hope in those sorts of games. *cough* N64 tournament.
Tatsunoko vs Capcom probs wouldn't be my thing I just mash buttons and hope in those sorts of games. *cough* N64 tournament.
Richard7
Smash Ace
A Tatsunoko vs Capcom tournament doesn't sound very possible atm, I think only like 2 people have played it. Everyone else would get owned. Unless its possible to win by mashing buttons while spinning the control stick around.
swordsaint
Smash Master
I can't believe you all ignored Alzi's Shop!
skillskillfiretruck
Smash Journeyman
4 4 4 4
i looked at it. it was a complete waste of time. also a waste of alzi's time. WTH alzi?
Marteh
Smash Lord
Real men make their own sigs and avvies.
Tatsunoko you can button mash yet it wont do much, just think your play street fighter and its good fun XD.
As for venus I've looked on the net and no luck really, I guess the best bet would be to phone places.
Tatsunoko you can button mash yet it wont do much, just think your play street fighter and its good fun XD.
As for venus I've looked on the net and no luck really, I guess the best bet would be to phone places.
Hobobloke
Atemon Game
Seriously kill yourself and save me the trouble. Who the **** do you think you are to tell people what they enjoy doing is a waster of time? If you dont appreciate his art then don't comment on it, artists put alot f effort into their work and thats their choice. Just because you have nothing better to do with your time don't go around insulting others to make your pitiful life seem less miserable. I seriously wonder why you're still here, go pay some people off with your parents money to be your friend and pretend they can tolerate your attitude and ego and leave us in peace.
Basically either stop being a complete ****ing ******** or leave.
swordsaint
Smash Master
Lord Bowser. We've had a wonderful relationship.
*Gets down on one knee*
Will you marry me Lord Bowser? I love you.
*Gets down on one knee*
Will you marry me Lord Bowser? I love you.
Vlade
Social Outcast
^ darn, you beat me to it
Hobobloke
Atemon Game
Now now theres plenty of travis to go around, just form an orderly line.
skillskillfiretruck
Smash Journeyman
quit bugging me.
e- who's going to anigames arcade on the 18th?
e- who's going to anigames arcade on the 18th?
swordsaint
Smash Master
I'm first in line!
Corpsecreate
Smash Lord
Regardless of how disturbingly mean this is....it is also undeniably ( I spelt that wrong didnt I?) absolutely hilarious at the same time
Hobobloke
Atemon Game
Thankyou. And you spelt it right.
And you spelt it right.
Marteh
Smash Lord
Trav I lost it at the first line of that sentance, but i do agree, the day he pisses off, I'll party. As for antigames I was going to then I found out skill was going and made other plans.
Oh and hands off Trav's mine!
And Elton we'll stop bugging you when you stop beinng a stuck up egotistical *insert offensive word here*. All you ever do is talk yourself up about how good you are at brawl and when you go to tournaments all you do is to stick to your little crowd, talk about how great you are and insult people, call certain people a "bas tard" (Yeah I heard you say that) because you can't understand them when their reading the tournamnet listings. I'm sorry but if you ever wish to get somewhere in life, you need to wake up, realise your not god's gift to whatever and stop being a *offensive word* to people who aren't your nationality. I'm sorry but I'll honestly go as far to say I cannot stand you.
Rant over!
Oh and hands off Trav's mine!
And Elton we'll stop bugging you when you stop beinng a stuck up egotistical *insert offensive word here*. All you ever do is talk yourself up about how good you are at brawl and when you go to tournaments all you do is to stick to your little crowd, talk about how great you are and insult people, call certain people a "bas tard" (Yeah I heard you say that) because you can't understand them when their reading the tournamnet listings. I'm sorry but if you ever wish to get somewhere in life, you need to wake up, realise your not god's gift to whatever and stop being a *offensive word* to people who aren't your nationality. I'm sorry but I'll honestly go as far to say I cannot stand you.
Rant over!
Owned
<3 Travis
I did that picture just for you. I could rage and get angry but no need for that i just calmy did my self a picture to show my anger in a diffrent way.
<3 Travis
I did that picture just for you. I could rage and get angry but no need for that i just calmy did my self a picture to show my anger in a diffrent way.
swordsaint
Smash Master
Personally, I don't understand why you guys don't gang bash him the next time he goes to a tournament.
