vs jiggs

[jetfour]

If a Jigglypuff you're facing is good at resting you out of knee, jump at her to bait the rest then airdodge through her at point blank range. That's not spammable, obviously.

 

[Hax]

battlefield is the best stage vs jiggs, it gives the most room for you to move out of any stage while not being too big for jiggs to live forever

if she's planking either punch the opponent in the mouth or ledgecancel bair to bair and slide onto her ledge. hence planking doesn't really work in this game imo

 

[G~low]

battlefield is the best stage vs jiggs, it gives the most room for you to move out of any stage while not being too big for jiggs to live forever

if she's planking either punch the opponent in the mouth or ledgecancel bair to bair and slide onto her ledge. hence planking doesn't really work in this game imo

Agreed. I always do great there vs. Puff,
Wavelands everywhere to run and some room to combo.

And planking isn't to much of a problem I just tend to be alittle more cautious and try and space bairs perfectly.

 

[Deleted member]

if you are afraid of doing down-throw knee cuz of rest do a back-air instead (unless they do some weird DI)

 

[PEEF!]

Turnaround backair or just run > bair?

 

[The W]

This is kind of a doc strategy, but it applies well to falcon in this match.

DON'T DOUBLE JUMP ON STAGE UNLESS YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET HIT.

Jiggs gimps falcon extremely easily, and the last thing you want to do is make it easy for Jiggs. You really should try to avoid being hit in the air in general, but thats hard to do with such an aerial oriented character.

I like that D-Throw->Fakeout->Falcon Punch trick. I'll make sure to try it at my next tourney.

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

okay since it`s confirmed that dthrow knee isn`t free, i take it dthrow stomp is REALLY not guaranteed?

 

[Turazrok]

I think you can weak knee -> grab at 0% and stomp-> grab at 0 as well.

 

[Ballistics]

isn't someone like fox just way easier to play against puff tho hax??

 

[Proverbs]

This is some advice I got from Elen and Trees (the Falcons from Too Manly for Brawl): D-throw knee if you can, but if you're unsure, go for d-throw up-air. Depending on the DI they do for the up-air, you can probably either up-air again or go for a knee, depending. Never d-air out of d-throw, but instead try to d-air her while she's in the air and tech-chase her from there.

Most things are very DI dependent in this matchup, so I do everything almost everything on reaction. A Puff player brought this up to me when I kept changing things up after the d-throw, as apparently it's something Falcons rarely do (apparently he's only met three Falcons who do it, including me, which I found odd). I also don't have a ton of experience in the Puff matchup, so I take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

[CaptainNanD0]

Jiggs can rest you outta d-throw uair if u follow her with it try to retreat with the uair dnt run in, it's good to d-throw n FJ in the same spot to uair/knee dnt follow her or she can rest you.

 

[TheManaLord]

This is some advice I got from Elen and Trees (the Falcons from Too Manly for Brawl): D-throw knee if you can, but if you're unsure, go for d-throw up-air. Depending on the DI they do for the up-air, you can probably either up-air again or go for a knee, depending. Never d-air out of d-throw, but instead try to d-air her while she's in the air and tech-chase her from there.

Most things are very DI dependent in this matchup, so I do everything almost everything on reaction. A Puff player brought this up to me when I kept changing things up after the d-throw, as apparently it's something Falcons rarely do (apparently he's only met three Falcons who do it, including me, which I found odd). I also don't have a ton of experience in the Puff matchup, so I take what I say with a grain of salt.

Dude, what are you saying? Do you have any experience in the matchup? I'm going to have to take what you said with a grain of salt, or maybe two.

 

[Proverbs]

Dude, what are you saying? Do you have any experience in the matchup?

Nope. :D:D:D

 

[concaib]

Can anyone suggest the correct DI to use if jiggz is going for the uthrow > rest? (or is it dthrow?) I use the PAL version if its any different (dont think it is for this specific thing though :/) Thanks ^^

 

[yummynbeefy]

jiggs doesnt have a guaranteed u-throw rest on falcon i believe u-throw>uair>rest MIGHT work but dont put $ on it considering the falcon has to b @ 0 for that to be even possible to work

 

[Erkekjetter]

U-throw u-air rest works at more than just 0, but they can DI out of it. Alot of time I think it catches falcon off guard though.

 

[Lucas Infected]

Captain falcon can destroy jigglypuff!
all he has to do is avoid rest attack, case closed...

 

[ETWIST51294]

lololol^^ no way

bair>>>>

 

[Lucas Infected]

yeah, cf back air can wreck jigglypuffs...

 

[ETWIST51294]

NO, Jiggs bair wrecks US.

the MU is considered even or in Jiggs favor mang.

 

[TheManaLord]

but that's a good matchup for falcon considering how many bad ones he has, esp in top tier so yeah =)

 

[concaib]

jiggs doesnt have a guaranteed u-throw rest on falcon i believe u-throw>uair>rest MIGHT work but dont put $ on it considering the falcon has to b @ 0 for that to be even possible to work

U-throw u-air rest works at more than just 0, but they can DI out of it. Alot of time I think it catches falcon off guard though.

Ah ok thanks very much guys ^^

 

[jwkirby64]

<3 u-air
When i play jiggz
Playing aggressive screws me over. falcon's amazing speed allows you to space easy, although jiggz air game is pretty ****. I use Falcon's faster moves like u-air and b-air to rack up %. combo with Two aerials can be common, but going for the third one is usually hard for me. since her d-air is pretty fugly I like to keep my jiggz in the air while staying right beneath, u-airing when the time is right. Throwing out random smashes can sometimes lead to a lucky kill at low % since they didnt expect to DI.

 

[BigD!!!]

hey i just saw a month old post from hax saying bf gave the most room to move around without being so big she lives forever so its the best, but isnt stadium bigger on the platform and smaller on the walls/ceiling therefore better?

thats the one i always like to take jiggs to, ive seen a lot of jiggs take me and other falcons to bf when they arent using brinstar or w/e. i know sliq and hbox at least used to do it

 

[TheManaLord]

poke stadium is a good choice

 

[telemaster]

i remember someone pointed out jiggs camping under the left or right platform what was it again lol?

also if a jiggs di's a dthrow up at killing%, what kind of knee will hit them? i have trouble with landing that decisive knee with that kind of DI

 

[Ballistics]

lol mana stop lying you would just go fox

 

[Tyson651]

also if a jiggs di's a dthrow up at killing%, what kind of knee will hit them? i have trouble with landing that decisive knee with that kind of DI

none.

ull just get rested out of knee.

just kidding. though u should be warey of it. if u feel like u cant space the knee properly after the dthrow, go for uair. its safe.

i think full jump knee would do it though. but DI backwards a bit to "tipper" the knee so u dont get rested.

 

[yummynbeefy]

at later %'s d-throw knee DOES work just be careful cuz thats only if its near frame perfect

 

[Sliq]

hey i just saw a month old post from hax saying bf gave the most room to move around without being so big she lives forever so its the best, but isnt stadium bigger on the platform and smaller on the walls/ceiling therefore better?

thats the one i always like to take jiggs to, ive seen a lot of jiggs take me and other falcons to bf when they arent using brinstar or w/e. i know sliq and hbox at least used to do it

Battlefield is generally my neutral of choice. I like that stage, it's fun.

 

[iamthemicrowave]

i hate playing jiggs on bf, she can camp under the platforms so well and its very hard to reach her

 

[Nakamaru]

i really enjoy playing jiggs on BF. The platforms set up for a lot of openings that you normally don't have. Like drop through Bair ***** jiggs that like to CC under plats.

 

[Deleted member]

conservative:

down-throw --> up-air

not a pu$sy:

down-throw --> b-air (running b-air works and comes out faster than knee 99% of the time)

risky if you aren't fast:

down-throw --> knee

 

[ChivalRuse]

Dthrow sucks. It puts Jiggs in the air, where she wants to be.

 

[TheManaLord]

dthrow ***** come on now buddy don't go sayin nothin otherwise

 

[yummynbeefy]

d-throw is how you combo jiggs

also nair>knee is **** ive tested and everytime i get a nair off against jiggs in the air it almost always leads to a knee

 

[Nakamaru]

delayed uair's > Knee ****. Mix it in with empty shuffles, and you'll get some surprise hits with bad DI.