Everyone I know from texas is a fat lazy fundie who spends all his/her time drinking beer, watching NASCAR, going hunting, and beating their kids. I should know, as everyone I've met from texas is like that.
You see the problem with statements like what you're saying and the above? You are stereotyping an entire demographic (You're stereotyping atheist, the above is stereotyping texans) based on your experiences with some of them. It's
Proof by Example down to a P.
The reason why I, at least, haven't been convinced by your arguments is not that I'm a stubborn *******.
It's that I don't find your arguments convincing. Your arguments have consisted of things like this:
Um, It's just as hard to explain where a floating mass that exploded came from.
Actually, it's easier to say where God came from. He was always there.
There's no logic or reasoning behind it, this is where the other thing called faith comes in. He just IS.
You have the mentality of 'seeing is believing" Well, you can't see an atom, how do you know it's there? O.o Because somebody told you that they can see atom's through a microscope. Why is it any different if someone who knows God tells you He is real and how he has worked in their life with VISIBLE changes?
First half I think I've already adressed, second half is inherently flawed (we have detected atoms through testing. It's not like someone said "there are atoms"
There's also intelligent design (which I feel like is beating a dead horse)
This:
I was going by your belief that we evolved. If we had evolved, we wouldn't be any better off than animals. That is what i'm saying. I do not believe we evolved, I believe we were created and given special characteristics that separate us from the animals.
Now, still going by the belief that we evolved, we technically would be just as low as the animals, with a higher intelligence that we would've gained over a long time. In that long time, we probably would've wiped ourselves out, because if we had evolved our population would've been like 3 people or something at the time. -.-
Which plain doesn't make sense (and shows a distinct lack of how evolution works, if I understan you correctly)
Could you imagine a world without religion? Nearly all of our morals have come from a religion, whether you want to believe it or not. If the Bible was never written, and if we had evolved, we would be no better than animals. Fighting, killing, eating each other with no sense of right and wrong. Just look at the African countries who have never heard of God, look at how savage those people are! Could you imagine living around people like that? So yes, it IS necessary.
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I tried to cut out parts where you went off tanget.
Basically, I don't find your arguments very convincing. If you have trouble convincing people, there's a pretty good chance that it's not that your opponets are stubbon, it's that your arguments need work.
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I dunno if you bothered to read my previous posts but I was debating up until that point. If you are gonna discredit me on my last few posts then ok.
Yeah, I noticed that you were debating. However, stuff like "If the book won't show its light to you, then nothing i say will really matter" are still things that should not be said, because it basically means "If you don't understand this, then I can't debate you." If you're still in the middle of debating, then you clearly shouldn't say stuff like that. If you're trying to end te debate, I'd still say it's not the best way to end a debate, especially considering the fact that it's still basically an attack ("You don't understand this")
