Official v1.2.0 Patch Discussion Thread

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As Zapp said, he tried recreating the scenario in 1.1 and Pac Man was still getting facial expression consistently.
So, in the footage in the tweet, there were some weird circumstances that caused him to not make the face, and we can't know how to recreate it, thus we can't know if that particular instance was fixed.

the original footage was in 1.0, it's possible the 1.1 patch fixed it. Either way's clearly not something that changed from 1.1 -> 1.2.

 

[Zapp Branniglenn]

I need someone with the game unpatched to test Kirby's FAF on Nair, as it seems to be 63 frames, while I remember someone in the past saying it was like 68 or 69.

I need to know if this was a new buff or just more placebo ;_;

It's 63 FAF in 1.1. And it was 73 in Smash 4. So not a change made today.

 

[Hyperom]

After much testing in the Young link discord, we can't find anything different

 

[S_B]

Just tried 1.2 with a Cube controller and it seems the input delay has been reduced. Can't say for sure, could just be placebo.

I want this to be true so damn badly but won't be able to test for another hour +...

 

[shrooby]

shrooby The invisible bomb glitch was fixed for all three links, not just Wild.

I never heard that Young and Toon Link were able to do it too. Was it some sort of universal change to how all the bombs work?

 

[FSK]

I never heard that Young and Toon Link were able to do it too. Was it some sort of universal change to how all the bombs work?

It might be for items in general that could bounce of opponents/shields to be recaught. Don't have 1.1 anymore so I can't test.

 

[FST|Sparkz]

Yeah young link discord can’t find anything changed at all just presuming it’s a glitch correlating to bombs.

 

[Skytoon]

Greninja can now wall cling https://youtu.be/KWSOBYsEGEw?t=10

Edit: Apparently this isn't new whooops ignore

 

[Tollhouse]

I want this to be true so damn badly but won't be able to test for another hour +...

This should be on the top of everybody's priority list for testing. If this is true, this will change the game a lot for many players.

 

[Gekkouga]

Is it confirmed that Greninja got damage/lag changes? Because I was thinking they probably just fixed its screen KO animation which was glitched on release:

 

[J0eyboi]

Greninja can now wall cling https://youtu.be/KWSOBYsEGEw?t=10

He could wall cling in 4, and I'm pretty sure I've seen him do the same in 1.1.

Is it confirmed that Greninja got damage/lag changes? Because I was thinking they probably just fixed its screen KO animation which was glitched on release:

This seems likely.

 

[Skytoon]

Is it confirmed that Greninja got damage/lag changes? Because I was thinking they probably just fixed its screen KO animation which was glitched on release:

We're discussing it right now in the Greninja Discord, still unsure if anything has changed damage wise

 

[Zapp Branniglenn]

Greninja can now wall cling https://youtu.be/KWSOBYsEGEw?t=10

I was able to recreate all of this in 1.1

 

[THK]

While I'm not ready to fully call it; it's safe to assume from here this is all bug and graphical fixes.

 

[zakzedd]

just a reminder to check final smashes since I've seen no one mention them so far
super unlikely they've changed but just being safe

 

[FST|Sparkz]

https://youtu.be/eo3YNvu_K7c 1:50 for young link idk if this was patched out already or not but if this is a big fix and it’s nothing bomb correlated it could be this if it was never solved

 

[Gunla]

Is it confirmed that Greninja got damage/lag changes? Because I was thinking they probably just fixed its screen KO animation which was glitched on release:

https://t.co/C4O2MaQ79L

Welp. pic.twitter.com/VmO7O483ep

— Gunla (@GunlaEXE) December 14, 2018

Nice catch. Looks like this is the change.

 

[Ra-Ha-Horakhty]

Ya know this calls for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCV0pHjtxes

 

[AceTechHD]

Ya know this calls for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCV0pHjtxes

Bruh I haven't heard that in years. Thank you lol

 

[Struggleton]

So far, the only thing we've found for Luigi is that the final expression for UpTaunt is now different (Replaces the anguish version with a more Smash 4-like one.)

 

[Hawkeyes11]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but did Luigi’s dash attack hit multiple times or no?

 

[Ffamran]

"I found an inconsequential bug. If Pac-Man begins advancing with his Side B just as the pellet is hit, the original intended trailing effect from Side B will continuously come out. When I used side B once more, it returned to normal.
It's like an F91. Cool, yeah?"

Thanks. That makes more sense than what Google Translate gives.

Looks like this is unchanged.

Which one? I'm going to assume the ROB bug is unchanged, but perhaps not the Pac-Man one.

 

[SoraX]

Young Link can only have two bombs out at a time now, and I’m pretty sure he used to be able to have more (I think I remember dropping a bomb on each platform at Batttlefield one time, but I could be wrong).

 

[BigHairyFart]

Young Link can only have two bombs out at a time now, and I’m pretty sure he used to be able to have more (I think I remember dropping a bomb on each platform at Batttlefield one time, but I could be wrong).

He definitely only had 2 bombs in 1.1

 

[Scribe]

A friend of mine is reporting that Kirby might have a slight weight increase (based on what percent Luigi's sweetspot up-B kills at), but I kinda have my doubts on this. Can someone run a test comparing it between the two versions?

 

[SoraX]

He definitely only had 2 bombs in 1.1

Hmm must have been a placebo then.

 

[ProfTrumanchez]

If you boys need any lemonade or cookies while you're labbing, just say the word and I'll email you a delicious-looking png. Keep up the good work!

 

[dogass]

I've tried what I can with Duck Hunt. I just finished checking victory animations, final smash animation/damage and any visual details. My guess is there was a bug fix and nothing visual, but I haven't heard of any bugs with Duck Hunt in 1.1. If anybody knows one, feel free to mention it. That's my best guess.

 

[NGW]

No idea if it's placebo or what, but could someone test the knockback on Duck Hunt's can? Played against a level 8 Luigi on clocktower and it took until near 200% to KO with it.

 

[dogass]

No idea if it's placebo or what, but could someone test the knockback on Duck Hunt's can? Played against a level 8 Luigi on clocktower and it took until near 200% to KO with it.

Can looked exactly the same in knockback when I tested it earlier. I'll try testing it again.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My best guess is this is just bug fixes on a whole for those characters.

Wish they would post them in full but telling us the characters helps I suppose.

 

[Tollhouse]

My best guess is this is just bug fixes on a whole for those characters.

Wish they would post them in full but telling us the characters helps I suppose.

Imagine having to go through all 74 characters as apposed to just 13. I'd say it was courteous of them to tell us which ones were affected.

 

[Caiahar]

Imagine having to go through all 74 characters as apposed to just 13. I'd say it was courteous of them to tell us which ones were affected.

Not so much courteous as it is the bare minimum.

 

[faroeson]

Imagine having to go through all 74 characters as apposed to just 13. I'd say it was courteous of them to tell us which ones were affected.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

 

[LGameTales]

Hi everyone! I am one of the labbers in the Isabelle Discord. We appreciate the input everyone has given about Isabelle's Side B. We have tested all of it between both versions.

Isabelle's Side B is completely unchanged.

Spoiler: How do you know?

Here is a spreadsheet I made during 1.1.0:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16e6P2A-facXTTO_DHyiZu6KOlDC2YOnlF2W2VDlKZow/edit?usp=sharing

I have retested all of the damages at all of the same (specific) scenarios and they are the same in 1.2.0.

I took screenshots of all throws at 100% in 1.1.0 in training mode, and then I tested all of the throws again in 1.2.0, and the enemy (with no DI) is sent to the exact same training mode squares when hitstun ends. Rod's angles are unchanged.

I tested Rod's kill percentages standing at the same position of FD in both versions.

Methodology: Go into training mode, select FD, select Isabelle as P1 and Mario as P2, increase number of CPUs to 2, change speed to "1 Frame" (so there is no movement when using Side B), reset, smash-throw Rod at the CPU on the left, and see when it kills. (The CPU is set to "Stop". Make sure each throw does consistent damage in all trials.)

Rod FThrow (15.3%) 146%
Rod BThrow (12.3%) 292%
Rod UThrow (13.3%) 143%
Rod DThrow (2.3, 9.8; 12.2%) 278%

They are the same in both versions. Rod's knockback is unchanged.

 

[Struggleton]

A friend of mine is reporting that Kirby might have a slight weight increase (based on what percent Luigi's sweetspot up-B kills at), but I kinda have my doubts on this. Can someone run a test comparing it between the two versions?

Tested and Luigi's Up-B kills at the exact same percent it did before the patch (~43%) after the patch.

 

[Caiahar]

Hm, I wonder if Isabelle’s change might just have been a bug with how her side B interacts with stuff or some specific fighter or circumstances.

 

[Gunkster]

Hi, I'm maybe a dumb dumb boy but I was playing around with Luigi in Training and for the life of me couldn't get Luigi's taunt to meteor on ledge. It's possible I'm doing it wrong, but I thought it worth mentioning.

 

[Tollhouse]

Hi, I'm maybe a dumb dumb boy but I was playing around with Luigi in Training and for the life of me couldn't get Luigi's taunt to meteor on ledge. It's possible I'm doing it wrong, but I thought it worth mentioning.

I know that meteor taunt exists because it was shown in Luigi's clip on the smash website. It's not something they'd ever remove. You must be doing it when the opponent has invincibility on the edge which is why they aren't getting KO'd.

 

[TreeBranch]

I know I'm a little late, but Pac's missing facial animations definitely seems to only have been a 1.0.0 thing, as it works for me consistently