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You have to aim that move + it's a low priority move that leaves him open outside of the hit-box below him. It's not like he can REALLY just shove that down your throat, and a lot of chars (but not every char) have ways of dealing damage fast on people. I could stand for that move being toned down a bit in damage, but not by that much. Most of the time, you won't get a full hit anyway.
This is not true.
I'm pretty sure I was supporting that it was a bug... But okay.
Completely disagree. That move doesn't have An immense amount of start up but what it does have is a huge hitbox and some nice damage. Even if it doesn't hit you it eats the hell out of shield. However I don't think that dair is in need of a nerf. It's a really good move but in no way is it broken.lol
Ehhhh pit doesn't need air ko moves, his air moves are meant for gimp kills not raw ko's. If he was able to get raw kos from air moves that would be dumb as hell considering how much his ground game has been buffed.
NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF.
All aboard the buff train hello?!
I don't know what to nerf on Yoshi that'd make sense. Everything on him is already in a VERY careful equilibrium.
Tippered Bair KOs around 130% in a good position.
His back air Kills.
ok but why would you give characters more landing lag... thats such a casual thing to say... id rather increase the speeds of other characters
Since Super Casual Brawl was released.
Considering the series's intended audience, since the beginning.
Let's do a kickstarter to get the two of them in Japan and meet Sakurai.
His tilts aren't risky. His f smash also has a little recovery on it but not too much. Pit doesn't need any altering bro.lol
lol pit can use safer on stage kill options still.
That's...pretty bad if that's what he has to rely on for aerial KOs alone. Why can't f-air have more KO potential?
So you want to nerf things that make sense on the char already? EVERY char approaching with a projectile is "xtra safe", there's already good lag on b-air + it doesn't KO early at all, and n-air... nearly every n-air is fast. The hell is that?
Because the "Don't nerf. Just buff" mentality is barbaric and is just as flawed as the "Don't buff. Just nerf" mentality.
Pit just has problems KOing in general. And I'd say that's good for a move that SH auto-cancels, although it's not nearly as good as it was in Brawl.
So if they're passing buffs and nerfs, why not buff something for Pit, who has issues ending a match?
This would be a great way to make the Pits different: give Pit and Dark Pit different ways of more easily KOing the opponent.
Wow, I didn't think on it like that, but you're right. Problem is that I don't know what one would give or take from each Pit that wouldn't make one blatantly better than the other.
The issues are a part of the character. Really though, I think he's fine. We just don't have any star players making a name for Pitty yet.
Well, Pit can get late KOs with Ftilt and DP can gimp with the Electroshock. Actually, most differences are in how they KO besides the arrows.
Give Pit a stronger Fair and overall better gimping abilities. DP can have Uair and be good at juggling the opponents and killing them from the top
I wouldn't say they're all completely to Pit's advantage. DP can much more easily shield poke with his arrows and they're faster/hit harder, his Guiding Bow custom trades a negligible amount of control for speed and attack again, and his Electroshock is a powerful gimping tool that's mostly better then the Upperdash in a FD only environment. DP's Ftilt kinda sorta combos into itself at 0%, but eh. It'd be interesting if the sour Ftilt had set KB or something so it'd combo properly.
I'm just saying DP isn't worthless is all. Already he has two matchups that he's much better at then Pit, and they're Mac and Rosalina.
okay idk why im even bothering to reply to you but nerfing speed is dumb as hell just nerf knockback scaling or damage or s/t else. adding landing lag to any character is so... >.>
The main problem with Shiek, over any other char in the game, is that she gets away with just slamming buttons all over the place. An unnecessary nerf would be to make her take even longer for that to pay off. It doesn't really address the issue, but it just makes it even more tedious for Shiek to efficiently KO, despite her hyper-offensive style. Best bet would be to make her have to at least try to think about the risk of using KO moves. You should be able to block and punish a move as powerful as her fish flop much more easily than we're able to atm. B-air could use more recovery, and the invincibility on her teleport needs to go.
There is a green flashing custom equipment signal that shows when equipment are used with a custom moveset.
