Unpopular Smash Ultimate Opinions! - Read the OP before Posting

[LaughingLefou]

On a somewhat related note, the Bowsette meme is beginning to lose it's appeal to me.

As someone who loves Mario BECAUSE of it's weird, quirky and unique species designs seeing EVERY Mario character from King Boo and Bowser to Chain Chomp and Goomba get turned into a generic anime fan service version of Peach is growing tiresome. Meme has only been around a week or so.

Worse, I've overheard some people IRL actively and unironically state they want Bowsette for Smash. Say what you want about Waluigi supporters only wanting him for memes but they're 1000% more legit than this.

Not sure if that's an unpopular opinion here, but there we go.

No worries, knowing how the internet works, this will die down just as quickly as it sprung up.

 

[zabimaru1000]

This seems to be the unpopular opinion now: I’m actually all for Steve. He would no doubt have a super unique move set, he’s one of the last few truly iconic third parties that have yet to be added, and you’re lying if you say he’s not megaton iconic. I also think his blocky art style, while somewhat conflicting, would actually be good for smash. I mean, smash is meant to be this colossal gaming crossover, so naturally there would be a wide variety of different art styles represented.

I have to agree, if iconic third parties come to mind they would be Steve from Minecraft, Master Chief from Halo, Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, and Lara Croft from Tomb Raider. All of them are mascots from era defining games.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

On a somewhat related note, the Bowsette meme is beginning to lose it's appeal to me.

As someone who loves Mario BECAUSE of it's weird, quirky and unique species designs seeing EVERY Mario character from King Boo and Bowser to Chain Chomp and Goomba get turned into a generic anime fan service version of Peach is growing tiresome. Meme has only been around a week or so.

Worse, I've overheard some people IRL actively and unironically state they want Bowsette for Smash. Say what you want about Waluigi supporters only wanting him for memes but they're 1000% more legit than this.

Not sure if that's an unpopular opinion here, but there we go.

I don't want to die this young. Let's please not mention She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

 

[Wintermelon43]

Worse, I've overheard some people IRL actively and unironically state they want Bowsette for Smash. Say what you want about Waluigi supporters only wanting him for memes but they're 1000% more legit than this.

I didn't think there'd ever be a way to get me to like the idea of Steve in smash, but this may have actually done it.

 

[CodakTheWarrior]

I have to agree, if iconic third parties come to mind they would be Steve from Minecraft, Master Chief from Halo, Scorpion from Mortal Kombat, and Lara Croft from Tomb Raider. All of them are mascots from era defining games.

Agreed. I think in addition to those, I would say that Rayman, Crash, Bomberman (rip), and MAYBE Sora, Erdrick, and Banjo would be up there too

 

[Squirtle/Mario guy]

I would like to have Bandana Dee in, also i don't get why people have to harass Sakurai for Waluigi, guy kills himself for us he doesn't need death threats. Even though i would like Waluigi in the game i understand why he isn't in Ultimate even i'd know sending threats is immature !

 

[Mogisthelioma]

I think Steve from Minecraft would be an awful addition to Smash. Master Chief from Halo would be way better to represent Microsoft. Banjo doesn't totally represent Microsoft since he was originally on the N64.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Not sure how unpopular this really is, but I'd only enjoy Steve's inclusion if they included this as his KO/hurt sound.
Most of you probably knew what sound it was before you clicked it.

 

[FirestormNeos]

I don't want to die this young. Let's please not mention She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

Wait a minute, I somehow actually know who you're talking about...

 

[Mogisthelioma]

There's already a Peachette support thread.

Wai

 

[UserKev]

This probably isn't exactly an unpopular opinion but I don't know that.

Subspace Emissary was actually a terrible mode with stale levels, mediocrity and tedious enemies, even have aged badly.

Stage Builder is a welcome addition but unnecessary. Without it, we'd probably have cleverly thought out or improved veteran modes. The same can be said for Masterpieces.

 

[Frizz]

I liked Pokemon Trainer's stamina mechanic in Brawl. It could've been better implemented, but in theory, it's supposed to encourage switching in order to prevent the overuse of a certain Pokemon, which I can appreciate.

That's another thing I happen to like. Pokemon Trainer's Switching mechanic. It's a pretty fun gimmick and represents the Pokemon franchise better than anyone else except Pikachu. Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are all better off as Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon rather than as individual fighters.

 

[Mogisthelioma]

I almost feel like Dedede would be a lot better if he had waddle dee toss instead of gordo toss....I almost miss it.

 

[Captain Shades]

Steve would be a great addition to Smash and would probably become the next Snake, a hated character for his out of place nature in Smash that everyone will miss once they are gone as they brought something no one else could.

 

[pap64]

- I could care less if Waluigi was in the game or not and the whole outcry over his exclusion is too much if you ask me. I understand a legacy character like Bomberman, but Waluigi was created to be filler in non-canon Mario games, and even though I love his personality (specially in the Strikers games), the fact that for some Ultimate is worthless because of his exclusion is ridiculous.

- If the new Spirits modes turns out to be EXACTLY like Subspace Emissary then forget about it, I will play it to get the characters then pretend it never existed because you can hype up how awesome the cutscenes were; the gameplay in that was AWFUL, just plain AWFUL.

- I am legit happy that Pichu and Young Link are back. People complain about them, but fighting games are notorious for clone or joke characters that are added for the sake of filler. Tekken is infamous for this, and I actually like that since it makes the roster varied and shows that the developers want to make sure that every legacy character is here, fanbased be damned.

- I really miss the brighter colors of Smash 4. while I love the animation and overall presentation in Ultimate (seriously the fight intros, the splash screens, the victory screen, the fact that confetti rains every time you smash an opponent are just delicious), the colors and textures seem a tad dull to me, like it's trying to bring back the realistic color scheme from Brawl but mix it with Smash 4 with a dash of Melee for good measure. Again it's not bad and it has grown on me, but I love me some colors!

 

[SmashBro99]

I want custom moves to return.

Just make them easier to get, and don't give me ones I already have! @.@

 

[lucasla]

I want Multi-Man Smash to have many variations and a horde mode with different waves of enemies, from Mii Fighters to regular Fighters and even with different properties and items. A complete evolution of Multi-Man Smash much bigger than it has always been.

 

[Opossum]

At this point, most of the non-leaked highly-requested choices are characters that I find boring (at best) or characters I dislike (at worst). Skull Kid, Dixie (I loved the idea of her being a grappler, but I'll have Incineroar for that so I don't need her anymore), Waddle Dee, Ashley, Shadow, Paper Mario, Rex and Pyra, Banjo, Shantae...I can't really get excited about any of those, lol.

Isaac, Spring Man, Chorus Kids, and Geno are cool though, despite them not being too big of personal requests for me. Always thought so. And obviously Crash would be fantastic, and so too would be DLC Waluigi. But beyond that I basically have everyone I could ever want that has a realistic shot of getting in.

At that point I'd just be hyped for certain Fire Emblem characters (Celica, Caeda, Merric, Silque, Ogma...the list goes on) and Pokémon characters (Chandelure, Decidueye, Klefki, Marowak, Castform...), or, Sakurai willing, Henry Fleming. But I think that just goes to show how good Ultimate's roster already is. The game's roster was a 10/10 at E3 and only improved from there, especially with Chrom getting in.

 

[IDontKnowGaming]

I would like an axe using for emblem character

 

[osby]

I would like an axe using for emblem character

Me too, Charlotte for Smash!

 

[UserKev]

At this point, most of the non-leaked highly-requested choices are characters that I find boring (at best) or characters I dislike (at worst). Skull Kid, Dixie (I loved the idea of her being a grappler, but I'll have Incineroar for that so I don't need her anymore), Waddle Dee, Ashley, Shadow, Paper Mario, Rex and Pyra, Banjo, Shantae...I can't really get excited about any of those, lol.

Isaac, Spring Man, Chorus Kids, and Geno are cool though, despite them not being too big of personal requests for me. Always thought so. And obviously Crash would be fantastic, and so too would be DLC Waluigi. But beyond that I basically have everyone I could ever want that has a realistic shot of getting in.

At that point I'd just be hyped for certain Fire Emblem characters (Celica, Caeda, Merric, Silque, Ogma...the list goes on) and Pokémon characters (Chandelure, Decidueye, Klefki, Marowak, Castform...), or, Sakurai willing, Henry Fleming. But I think that just goes to show how good Ultimate's roster already is. The game's roster was a 10/10 at E3 and only improved from there, especially with Chrom getting in.

I feel the same way. Smash is basically complete for me as far as Nintendo characters and I'm not stressing over third party characters. Cranky Kong, Doc Louis, Ghirahim and Mimikyu are ultimately the last characters I would be happy for.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

This might count as unpopular so best place to say this but I think if we get a SMRPG stage rather then say Forest Maze or Star Road it should be Bowser's Castle as there's lot of potential having Exor as a boss.

 

[FirestormNeos]

Just make them easier to get, and don't give me ones I already have! @.@

The fact that you can acquire duplicates of **** you already have, combined with the existence of custom parts that only affect stats are part of the same drop category ruined Smash 4's custom moves for me, to the point where me getting one makes me actively angry, because I'm trying to get all of the random drop Mii outfits.

Not to sound older then I actually am, but back in the olden days, if you wanted to unlock something that isn't immediately available to you, all you had to do was fill out a prerequisite. In 64, you unlocked Ness by beating Classic Mode on Medium or harder with 3 lives or less. In MGS1, you found Meryl's contact info on the back of the box. In Pokemon, you evolve Inkay by turning the 3DS upsidedown.

In Smash 4 and a bunch of other modern video games, all that stuff has been turned into "loot." "stuff." "crap" that randomly drops which you have to grind for in order to "give players a sense of pride and accomplishment" or some other stupid bull****. It cheapens the feel of the unlock as well as the game itself. Smash 4 doesn't feel like a complete game. It feels like Overwatch if they forgot to put in the microtransactions: good core gameplay, but the method of unlocking new things is utterly ridiculous.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that maybe I don't want to spend thousands of hours on classic mode playing what looks, sounds and feels like a literal ****ing slot machine? I don't care that's it's free. I don't care that I'm not paying microtransactions to spin it. You're still asking me to pray to RNGsus, and I'm ****ing sick of it.

There's a time and place for that **** in Smash, and it's called "Trophies." When Ultimate comes out, I seriously hope that the only unlocks of any sort are Characters and Trophies. Anything else is just going to ruin the experience for me-- and even then, if they make character unlocks RNG-based, I'm going to ****ing scream.

 

[Venclaire]

I want more Fire Emblem characters that aren't sword users. I'd be willing to sacrifice current FE characters for more unique FE characters, even.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

I want more Fire Emblem characters that aren't sword users. I'd be willing to sacrifice current FE characters for more unique FE characters, even.

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion except among people who cry about characters getting cut.

 

[FirestormNeos]

I don't particularly care for characters getting cut, but if it's nessessary I don't get too worked up over it... Unless it's Mewtwo or Snake, but those were really fun characters with unique movesets, as opposed to Fire Emblem characters which, although fun, do have some pretty same-y movesets.

I want more Fire Emblem characters that aren't sword users. I'd be willing to sacrifice current FE characters for more unique FE characters, even.

Same, although for me it varies based on what's on the sacrificial altar.

: nah fam I like my "send people flying with my big fire stick" and my "high-tier pretty boy: ez mode" too much to say bye to 'em.
ultcorrin:: okay, but it better be someone cool. NO ONE WITH DOWN-B COUNTERS.
: THIS IS SO SAD--! Tharja, play Disco Inferno. *dabs as the semiclone gets yeeted*

 

[Frizz]

I don't think :ultrobin and should have customization like in their games. They've always been established characters with their own personality, unlike and , who are meant as blank slates. Changing their hair style, hair color, body shape, voice, and their face would completely strip them of their status as actual characters.

 

[osby]

I don't think :ultrobin and should have customization like in their games. They've always been established characters with their own personality, unlike and , who are meant as blank slates. Changing their hair style, hair color, body shape, voice, and their face would completely strip them of their status as actual characters.

Do you mean in Fire Emblem? I agree, it wasn't really necessary.

In Smash, I appreciate they gave two genders for each, even though I only use male ones.

 

[ShadowYoshi04]

I don't think Dixie Kong should be in. She may be a Nintendo All Star, but honestly Cranky Kong is more deserving.

 

[Frizz]

Do you mean in Fire Emblem? I agree, it wasn't really necessary.

In Smash, I appreciate they gave two genders for each, even though I only use male ones.

Well, I meant more of Robin and Corrin having customizable appearances in Smash. Like as alternate costumes.

Both genders are fine in Smash, of course.

But regarding customization in Fire Emblem, yeah, it definitely wasn't necessary. They're trying to make a character that already has free will into a self-insert. It just doesn't work. There's a thread in the Fire Emblem subforum that talks about this. Mark is usually seen as the best self-insert since he doesn't really do anything important throughout the story of FE7.

 

[Luigifan18]

Well, I meant more of Robin and Corrin having customizable appearances in Smash. Like as alternate costumes.

Both genders are fine in Smash, of course.

But regarding customization in Fire Emblem, yeah, it definitely wasn't necessary. They're trying to make a character that already has free will into a self-insert. It just doesn't work. There's a thread in the Fire Emblem subforum that talks about this. Mark is usually seen as the best self-insert since he doesn't really do anything important throughout the story of FE7.

Link, please.

 

[Frizz]

Link, please.

Sure thing.
https://smashboards.com/threads/avatars-my-units.458616/

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Like how I think the Kirby side isn't complete without Bandana Dee I feel the StarFox roster isn't without Leon being he's Falco's answer as Wolf is to Fox.

 

[Opossum]

Personally I think Slippy is a more glaring omission.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Personally I think Slippy is a more glaring omission.

Well the reason I say Leon is because how Fox and Wolf are rivals. The same goes for Falco and Leon so I feel that'd perfectly balance it for the same reason as Medusa would for the Kid Icarus roster (Light and Dark counterparts) and Bandana Dee (Player 4) with the Kirby roster. In this case it'd be rivals but that is just me though I guess.

 

[AlphaSSB]

Honestly, if Star Fox were to finally get a fourth character, Krystal, Slippy, and Leon would all fit pretty well.

Krystal is a very popular character who probably has the most going for her, thanks to her being considered to Brawl, and making it in Smash Ultimate as an Assist Trophy. She has a lot of moveset potential too, almost all of which can be ripped straight from Star Fox Adventures. Other moves can just be taken from real-life bo staff martial arts moves.

Slippy is one of the original four Star Fox members, and is very well-known thanks to him basically being a meme. Moveset-wise, there's a ton that can be done with him. You can rip things from Star Fox: Assault, Star Fox Zero, and Star Fox Guard, as well as coming up with original gadgets for him to use. One of the best ideas I've seen for Slippy is a moveset based around limiting his opponent's options as a whole to even things up.

Leon would fit well, seeing as Fox and Falco would both have their rivals. Plus, he's the only other consistent member of Star Wolf other than Wolf himself. Moveset wise, you could likely take some things from Star Fox: Assault, but he'd otherwise have a completely original moveset like the rest of the cast. Sniper Rifle, maybe some throwing knives, or even invisibility?

Granted, I'd kill to see any one of the three. I've made movesets for Krystal and Slippy, plus plan on making one for Leon some time soon.

 

[Crystanium]

All characters should be as powerful as their canon counter-parts.

Sonic needs to go. Like Sega, he's irrelevant.

A rank system would be stupid. People who want it probably wouldn't be that good and then complain about how the ranking system drives skilled players away from them.

 

[Opossum]

Sonic needs to go. Like Sega, he's irrelevant.

I mean, there's having an unpopular opinion, and then there's being factually incorrect.

 

[Tollhouse]

All characters should be as powerful as their canon counter-parts.

Sonic needs to go. Like Sega, he's irrelevant.

A rank system would be stupid. People who want it probably wouldn't be that good and then complain about how the ranking system drives skilled players away from them.

Sonic should be cut because he is irrelevant? That is indeed a very unpopular opinion. Why makes you say that? Just curious?


My unpopular opinion: I really don't want this hidden mode to be anything huge. I highly doubt it's going to be anything close to subspace. It's just not realistic given the amount of content already in the game. But let's just say hypothetically Sakurai went even above what it means to go "above and beyond" and he made Ultimate feature 70+ characters with a story mode that tied all those characters together with cutscenes and all. As entertaining as subspace was, it had its shortcomings. While it was exciting to play the first time, as time past I began to see how stale it was. I think even if Ultimate had more inspired enemies and a better written story (and everything else brawl's subspace lacked) it would still fall short. I just don't think smash bros gameplay translates well to a long 1 player mode like that. I'd rather that time be put into more characters, stages, game testing, and so on.

It's not like Zelda where you can travel on horse, boat, explore dungeons, etc. You don't have a variety of things you can do in smash. The only time you're moving is when you're on a fighting stage. I just think this is too limiting for a good story mode. There is absolutely nothing wrong with smash's gameplay for being only able to fight (because duh it's a fighting game). I just think smash should be all about its vs mode with its mini modes on the side.

I would rather this hidden mode be more similar to smash run with online connection. It's a lot more exciting than fighting computer players in subspace and has tons of potential to be bigger and better this time around.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Sonic needs to go. Like Sega, he's irrelevant.

Someone would like a word with you.