Unpopular Smash Ultimate Opinions! - Read the OP before Posting

[Deleted member]

In which universe Ike and Robin are speedy? Or Roy any range? Also they are numerous sword fighters that aren't from Fire Emblem.

And pretty much every counter covers your both sides, but your wording makes it a bit confusing whether or not you are talking about Fire Emblem characters particularly, so I'm not going to touch that.

I don't like any of those counters. Most counters should be more like King K Rool's Gut Check. Fire Emblem meaning all the Marth clones, so all of them except Ike and Robin. Roy has range and power, but not both at the same time since he has to hit with the hilt to sweet spot. I'm not sure how to feel about Roy, he might actually be fine.

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

FE fighters may be easy to use but they don't get away scot-free. They have range but still have to work in their spacing, at the cost of having a more linear and predictable playstyle. And being extremely vulnerable to parries.

Counters aren't an issue either as you can bait them out and only punish you if you are overly aggressive.

Also, Corrin isn't a Marth clone.

 

[Deleted member]

FE fighters may be easy to use but they don't get away scot-free. They have range but still have to work in their spacing, at the cost of having a more linear and predictable playstyle. And being extremely vulnerable to parries.

Counters aren't an issue either as you can bait them out and only punish you if you are overly aggressive.

Also, Corrin isn't a Marth clone.

My point is that I don't feel the spacing is enough of an issue as it's supposed to be.

Corrin might be the most different from the bunch, but both of my opinions still apply, can get away with poor spacing more than he/she should and the counter only requires correct timing, rather than correct timing and aiming as using an attack would. This isn't really that big of a gripe for me anyways, just out of principal I think some aiming should be required, be it before or after getting hit.

I'm not complaining about anything being over powered, I'm just saying it's a little too generous. Those are my unpopular Smash 5 opinions.

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

I haven't seen that many people get away with spacing poorly with the FE cast. They usually get punished. Same goes to me when I use them as well.

 

[Deleted member]

I haven't seen that many people get away with spacing poorly with the FE cast. They usually get punished. Same goes to me when I use them as well.

They prioritize too much over hit boxes that aren't disjointed sword/weapon hit boxes in close for my taste. That is my clearly unpopular Smash 5 opinion.

"The Golden Rule: NO CRITICIZING OTHER POSTERS' OPINIONS. This is NOT a debate thread. Do not post on here if you're going to attack/debate someone for their opinion. If you disagree with somebody and can't follow this rule, I will be upset, and that's probably the worst thing you can do on here (plus I'll totally tell on you and report)."

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Let's not rules lawyer please. Remember, opinions don't change what facts are either. Also, don't make threats you'll report. We aren't your dogs you can just order around. If you're going to report, just do so as is. Likewise, this comes off as backseat moderation, which we do not allow either. So let's just move on as is as this particular debate is going nowhere. For the record, we have allowed debate a lot, but there is a limit to it too.

 

[osby]

My point is that I don't feel the spacing is enough of an issue as it's supposed to be.

Corrin might be the most different from the bunch, but both of my opinions still apply, can get away with poor spacing more than he/she should and the counter only requires correct timing, rather than correct timing and aiming as using an attack would. This isn't really that big of a gripe for me anyways, just out of principal I think some aiming should be required, be it before or after getting hit.

I'm not complaining about anything being over powered, I'm just saying it's a little too generous. Those are my unpopular Smash 5 opinions.

A lot of attacks other than counters also don't require aiming, like most reflectors, moves with big hitboxes and almost all down smashes.

Also, you have to aim some counters like Substitude if you want the counterattack to connect.

 

[Idon]

Ironic that we're at the part where swordsmen are complained about spacing poorly when Marth's entire archetype originally was pure spacing.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ironic that we're at the part where swordsmen are complained about spacing poorly when Marth's entire archetype originally was pure spacing.

Which makes it funny, as Lucina is far less about that where it isn't as key due to not having a tipper. Though really, I never saw anyone but Marth, Roy, Lucina, and Chrom as being about spacing, as that's their actual mechanics. Lucina and Chrom lacking the "special sword damage", so they don't need to do so as much, but because they're Echoes, they need to follow somewhat similar playstyles.

The other 3 play widely differently. But then again, doesn't nearly every character have a playstyle where spacing plays some kind of role? Long range no less requires spacing to be efficient. Regardless, the FE characters, as said up above, aren't safe to use, agreed. Having disjointed hitboxes isn't a get out the way free card, after all.

 

[Deleted member]

A lot of attacks other than counters also don't require aiming, like most reflectors, moves with big hitboxes and almost all down smashes.

Also, you have to aim some counters like Substitude if you want the counterattack to connect.

Were really nitpicking my posts here, aren't we? I never mentioned Greninja. I never mentioned down smashes, which don't usually cover 360 degrees around your character all at once anyways.

Let's not rules lawyer please. Remember, opinions don't change what facts are either. Also, don't make threats you'll report. We aren't your dogs you can just order around. If you're going to report, just do so as is. Likewise, this comes off as backseat moderation, which we do not allow either. So let's just move on as is as this particular debate is going nowhere. For the record, we have allowed debate a lot, but there is a limit to it too.

I thought the whole point of the thread was to not get into debates. All i did was quote the OP. Can you provide evidence for your "facts" instead of just saying "you're wrong lol," cause it sounds like unpopular opinion vs more popular opinions to me at the moment, if this absolutely must turn into a debate. You guys say spacing is a big deal, I say that notion is overblown; not invalid, just not as glaring of a weakness as I think it should be. If I thought my opinion was absolute fact I wouldn't have posted it in "unpopular Smash 5 opinions," because it was not a hill I was prepared to die on.

 

[Xelrog]

I thought the whole point of the thread was to not get into debates.

If no one responds to anyone else, then no discussion happens. Then there's no point to anyone posting anything. You're not being personally attacked, a discussion is happening. If you don't like or want discussion, then leave.

 

[Deleted member]

If no one responds to anyone else, then no discussion happens. Then there's no point to anyone posting anything. You're not being personally attacked, a discussion is happening. If you don't like or want discussion, then leave.

I'm being asked to take several stances on debates I didn't start, such as something about Greninja and down smashes. I don't see much of a discussion when I'm being told I'm wrong about something without evidence or even reasoning why, just "you're wrong." It sounds exactly like what the OP was trying to avoid.

 

[UserKev]

I feel like we should post a list of unpopular opinions that could really generate new study?

 

[Iridium]

Uh, a feature I miss a lot would be being able to bet gold while spectating matches. It added more appeal to watching other people play, although ending up with FFAs was a bit of a flaw, if you didn't want to see it.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I thought the whole point of the thread was to not get into debates. All i did was quote the OP. Can you provide evidence for your "facts" instead of just saying "you're wrong lol," cause it sounds like unpopular opinion vs more popular opinions to me at the moment, if this absolutely must turn into a debate. You guys say spacing is a big deal, I say that notion is overblown; not invalid, just not as glaring of a weakness as I think it should be. If I thought my opinion was absolute fact I wouldn't have posted it in "unpopular Smash 5 opinions," because it was not a hill I was prepared to die on.

It’ll be discussed and we’ll figure out how to properly work with this thread. Thank you for bringing it up.

 

[Xelrog]

The thread's fine as is. People just need to change their attitudes going into it. There's a general understanding that no one's opinion will be seriously held against them, and especially that personal attacks will not be tolerated (as with anywhere on the forum). That no one is allowed to dissent with your opinion at all is not a good attitude to come in with, though.

I like having a thread that sparks discussion. There's a reason it's at 152 pages.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

We'll be discussing it and post the decision on how to handle this thread later. Please continue on as normal. For now, just consider it that healthy debate is allowed. Either we'll be changing the rules in the opening post, or we'll be reinforcing the "no debate" rules once it's decided upon. Please understand that when a thread is created, we want to respect the intent behind the thread, but we also want a thread that is healthy too. So it's not an easy answer at the moment. Hence, we'll discussion it in private. I apologize for the inconvenience. Also, it's probably best we drop the conversation about the Fire Emblem characters as the user clearly does not want to debate it. Let's respect that. Besides, debate is an option, not a requirement.

Also, something that was clearly missed; telling users to leave is not cool. That's not something you really have any right to say. Don't bully others off the thread. It might seem a simple statement, but you're also backseat moderating. If a user is forced to leave a thread, it should be only because the Staff said so or they feel like they don't belong there(and we never want the second thing happening). Please understand we want to be inclusive to all. If there's an issue user, report them, don't ever try to force them off the thread. That's not tolerable. Keep this in mind as the only verbal warning this thread will get. Any other attempts will be punished harshly.

Just a quick caveat that it's not like we're saying everybody should be interested forever in a single thread. Some move on or don't care to debate(which isn't the same thing as feeling unwelcome). But please be careful in how you post, as you always want to respect a user.

 

[Manonymous]

Uh, a feature I miss a lot would be being able to bet gold while spectating matches. It added more appeal to watching other people play, although ending up with FFAs was a bit of a flaw, if you didn't want to see it.

I'm with you here. It added interest in watching matches from other people.

 

[Xelrog]

Uh, a feature I miss a lot would be being able to bet gold while spectating matches. It added more appeal to watching other people play, although ending up with FFAs was a bit of a flaw, if you didn't want to see it.

That was a thing? That could be a cool way to spice up arenas.

 

[UserKev]

Suddenly there's hype for a playable Poochy? I'm not opposed to this character, Poochy would be an amazing assist. The next Yoshi rep should be Kamek though.

 

[Lenidem]

Same, Poochy would be a good assist, but I don't want him playable. And I think E. Gad should be a character before Kamek.

 

[Xelrog]

Neither Poochy nor Kamek have any moveset potential at all.

 

[Deleted member]

That's one of the weakest swords in the game. It's designed to look generic and boring so you get some sort of reward for buying a better one than just more damage.

Bro that's a generic iron sword @Mewtwo.
A simple one handed sword with a hilt curved up is literally as basic a sword as you could possibly get.

So we are ignoring the sword the luminary uses for Smash and that is iconic for the game and we are just going to look at a common sword, gotcha. Seriously though, its hard to take your arguments seriously when you search inane ways to prove you're correct.

How in any way does what you are saying disprove my point? That "basic sword" is also the one used extensively in promotional art for the character, including toys and the (original) boxart. So for being such a basic sword it seems pretty prominent don't you think? I kinda figured I'd get a lot of DQ fanboys butthurt over my comment, so nothing you're saying is too surprising to me. But please at least attempt to be objective and see that the sword design is a blatant ripoff of another famous sword. The artist is clearly lazy and uninspired enough to just straight up steal another design.
And that's on top of my view that his artwork is objectively ugly, of which you won't be able to convince me otherwise. I give you permission to try though.



By the way....this thread has totally gone downhill and that deleted member whoever he was was correct in quoting the OP: "The Golden Rule: NO CRITICIZING OTHER POSTERS' OPINIONS. This is NOT a debate thread. Do not post on here if you're going to attack/debate someone for their opinion. If you disagree with somebody and can't follow this rule, I will be upset, and that's probably the worst thing you can do on here (plus I'll totally tell on you and report)."

This thread used to be a place people could simply mention their unpopular opinion and move on; sometimes people would agree or chime in. Now, it's a place where a certain few arrogant members will attack all opinions that differ from their own in an attempt to prove that their more popular opinion is correct. That's completely not the point of this thread, or at least it wasn't. Obviously they've put a target on me because anything I post here gets attacked. So I'll be leaving. Have fun and I look forward to when this thread gets locked.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Reminder that we do not tolerate rules lawyering. Just report the posts instead.

Also, drop the sword talk. It's clearly going nowhere.

For the record, citing the rules does not really fix anything here. It's basically backseat moderating and does not help. If you don't want to debate, you can simply say that. People will have to respect your wishes or they themselves will be breaking rules. And yes, we are still working on discussing this topic. If this continues yet again, a temporary lock will have to happen. Unfortunately, people don't want to report and instead feel the need to backseat moderate. This means we cannot really enforce anything if you don't go through the right channels. Backseat Moderation is basically no different from rules lawyering. When you're essentially doing is missing the point of the rules. Also, if you have problems with the thread's premise, please feel free to file a report or bring it to forum support. We will overall listen. We absolutely require feedback. There's a lot of people who feel that discussion is a must here, and while that might be okay, it's created unintentional drama.

 

[Xelrog]

I think this one topic of discussion, in isolation, has created unintentional drama, and it will stop as soon as the discussion is dropped. I stand by my previous statement on the nature of the thread. Not only is it a healthy place for discussion, I would go so far as to call it the healthiest on this forum. A lot of good (non-hostile) conversation happens here.

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Any opinions on suicide moves? A lot of the characters I use tend to have them, which tends to annoy a lot of players. I've been using the suplex on my Mii Fighter because the suicide option (and generally having a command grab) is nice, but I'm considering replacing it with the flaming kick because the recovery is so important.

 

[KatKit]

I like the fact that you can't taunt in Quickplay. I also think the pre-battle and end battle messages are really cool/useful.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Though this needs to be said; as we are working on the thread's structuring, talk of how the rules work is off-topic. Please just follow the current rules, and most importantly, respect others. Debate is a cool thing, but it is not a requirement of this thread. It's an option and will always be treated as such. If a user wants to drop it, that has to be done. It's key you respect that kind of thing as is, as we want things friendly.

But yes, please leave off the whole discussion on "what should be discussed". It's really not up for debate in this thread itself, as ironic as it is to say.

 

[King Sonnn DeDeDoo]

aww man I was just about to finish my draft about medieval swords and their classifications. Oh well the topic is dropped.

I think this one topic of discussion, in isolation, has created unintentional drama, and it will stop as soon as the discussion is dropped. I stand by my previous statement on the nature of the thread. Not only is it a healthy place for discussion, I would go so far as to call it the healthiest on this forum. A lot of good (non-hostile) conversation happens here.

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Any opinions on suicide moves? A lot of the characters I use tend to have them, which tends to annoy a lot of players. I've been using the suplex on my Mii Fighter because the suicide option (and generally having a command grab) is nice, but I'm considering replacing it with the flaming kick because the recovery is so important.

I like suicide moves when playing locally, they can be risky and provide a great deal of fun, but I would be lying if I said that they didn't tilt me when I play online. I guess that the disconnect between not knowing what the opponents intent is a factor when you can't see/know the other player.

I like the fact that you can't taunt in Quickplay. I also think the pre-battle and end battle messages are really cool/useful.

So far, I've had a better time with Ultimate's online than Smash 4. The worst you have to worry about is the occasional teabagger, I'm glad that you can't change your name to spell out various insults or whatever.

 

[Xelrog]

I like suicide moves when playing locally, they can be risky and provide a great deal of fun, but I would be lying if I said that they didn't tilt me when I play online. I guess that the disconnect between not knowing what the opponents intent is a factor when you can't see/know the other player.

I only ever use them when it's tactically advantageous, not as a taunt. Well... generally. It's definitely fun to finish a match with one if given the opportunity. It helps that generally, the characters that have them aren't really top tier, so it's important that they have the option.

I like the fact that you can't taunt in Quickplay. I also think the pre-battle and end battle messages are really cool/useful.

I'm only bothered by the combat-usable taunts. Namely Luigi's. Arguably Snake's. Those should really be exceptions when playing online.

(Yes I know about Greninja's, but can you really use that one effectively in any kind of combat scenario?)

 

[BlackInk]

I think we need an unique Inkling echofighter (the octolins obviously) so we can give Splattoon a little more representation for being one of Nintendo’s biggest IPs.

 

[Roguewolf]

On the whole Krystal issue, she just has the most canonically interesting move set to pull from (at least in the sense that her staff has abilities, yes she does get damsel'd but so what?) and some people just do like female characters. I'm going to be honest, she's the most developed of the alternate Star Fox options. None of Star Wolf are interesting or super well developed, Andross doesn't really fit as a playable character, and the rest of Star Fox as dull as dirt (Slippy exists as a joke the entire damn time and Peppy's just meh). Krystal in Smash has generally always revolved around the staff as a focal point of the move set and we don't really have a staff user in Smash. Plus more magic is always welcomed. And yeah, people may like her for all kinds of reasons that you don't agree with personally (I'm leaving it at that and you should too), but it doesn't really matter because at the end of the day you're allowed to like characters for any reason. Star Fox sure as hell isn't getting another rep any time soon outside of fan demand, and guess what? Krystal has the most fan demand so she would be the next character without a doubt if Star Fox gets one.

Also, Zero Suit Samus is 100% a Smash only creation and it's ****ing great. We could use more stuff like her in the game in my opinion. Canon hasn't meant anything since Olimar exists and doesn't just get stepped on by literally every other fighter, Ridley exists smaller than many other characters, Captain Falcon also literally just materialized a moveset out of thin air, etc. Don't get so wrapped up in the canon of Zero Suit and you'll have a much better time.

First off hope you don't mean wolf when you say no one on star wolf is interesting bud

Second I would say Leon and panther are both very interesting and too an extent pigma but hes only interesting cause he's downwright one of the most evil nintendo charachters around

Third that hurt peppys feelings and he's and old hare who can't take that kind of verbal abuse I expect you to apologise

4th good job insulting slippy

 

[VodkaHaze]

I like the fact that you can't taunt in Quickplay. I also think the pre-battle and end battle messages are really cool/useful.

Losing taunts in Quickplay was sadly a necessary evil. You still find people who will crouch or use a move repeatedly after they take a stock, but taunt capabilities are limited.

My complaints with taunt messages are they are quite bland, and I do wish you could customise them when fighting friends. It's understandable why you can't do it with strangers though.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

I don't think there's anything wrong with Samus fighting without her armor when we have a fitness trainer and plant holding their own against Ganondorf or Palutena. It's not canonically logical, but Smash hardly ever makes sense within individual canons anyway.

Honestly what has Ganon done to make him seem so powerful in everyone's eyes? Killing gods? Literally half of the Smash cast have defeated "gods" at this point.

His "holy weapons" thing? Again, half of the verses have a good vs. evil thing where holy macguffins exist specifically to ward evil off. It's not out of the question for the Star Rod, Peach and her Wish/Star/Heart Magic, pretty much any important FE Sword, The Luminary, Simon/Richter, Pit and Palu, and probably way more to overcome this.

Hell, Palutena herself isn't very impressive. She has the title of. "goddess", but her best showing waa throwing an island or something like that while Pit then had to save her after she was overcome by a threat. And again, god slaying is a pretty overdone Japanese (hell, even some Western) trope at this point.

Granted, Ganondorf legitimately is solidly in the mid tiers of the Smash cast in terms of canon powers and abilities as of now, so I guess he is a good threshold.

Zelda itself is among the most powerful Nintendo verses, but only because of the Golden Godesses creating the universe along with an unintended multiverse.

Funnily enough, Pokémon is probably Nintendo's most powerful franchise due to Arceus and the Creation Trio, with the only other one that comes close to my knowledge being Paper Mario with the Pure Hearts and Chaos Heart along with Super Dimentio.

Kirby might reach those levels soon with a confirmed multiverse, but it's currently not there yet.

Fire Emblem has a multiverse as well, but it only reaches such a power level from Heroes, which is non-canon.

Mother also has a confirmed multiverse with that dragon thing being a possible threat to it.

Dragon Quest has a multiverse and multiple characters who can end it, I believe. Probably among the Top 5 and is a contender with the pokémon, but I believe it still loses out.

Then you have the verses with characters who can create/destroy universes of which there are PLENTY. At least a dozen now with the Third Parties included.

Wii Fit Trainer is probably the truly weakest. Olimar only beats her out if we trust the info on his ship that states it can destroy stars, otherwise he loses and Villager can chop tress down with a few swings, literally pluck trees out of the ground, and can fish a whale shark out of the water, so it stands to reason that based on strength, they actually edge out Wii Fit Trainer.

As for the person who said Krystal has a very fleshed out character when compared to most of the other Star Fox characters? Like, where? Her only purpose for the series was for an arbitrary romance plot with Fox along with sex appeal because she's a vixen. Even in terms of her potential in Smash, she barely does any of the fighting in her debut and actually has to be saved while the other games have her mostly taking the backseat to the other members with romance and drama being her main focal points in Command.

She would be cool in terms of the moveset, but not because of her character itself. And saying Star Wolf ain't as developed includes Wolf, which I should tell you is the wrong fight to pick when trying to argue for Krystal's inclusion. I'll agree she's the likeliest character after Falco and Wolf, and in my opinion, she should have priority over Falco, but she's not gonna have more priority and significance to the franchise than Wolf.

It's like arguing Elizabeth from The Seven Deadly Sins is a much better character than Ban. Elizabeth is integral toward the plot, but she's not nearly as significant nor as fleshed out.

Of course, this is just my opinion, though.

 

[osby]

I wouldn't mind more character unique abilities with their own UI. I think the hate against them is overblown.

 

[meleebrawler]

I only ever use them when it's tactically advantageous, not as a taunt. Well... generally. It's definitely fun to finish a match with one if given the opportunity. It helps that generally, the characters that have them aren't really top tier, so it's important that they have the option.


I'm only bothered by the combat-usable taunts. Namely Luigi's. Arguably Snake's. Those should really be exceptions when playing online.

(Yes I know about Greninja's, but can you really use that one effectively in any kind of combat scenario?)

Kirby can still taunt to drop an ability in Quickplay.

 

[Opossum]

Honestly what has Ganon done to make him seem so powerful in everyone's eyes? Killing gods? Literally half of the Smash cast have defeated "gods" at this point.

His "holy weapons" thing? Again, half of the verses have a good vs. evil thing where holy macguffins exist specifically to ward evil off. It's not out of the question for the Star Rod, Peach and her Wish/Star/Heart Magic, pretty much any important FE Sword, The Luminary, Simon/Richter, Pit and Palu, and probably way more to overcome this.

Hell, Palutena herself isn't very impressive. She has the title of. "goddess", but her best showing waa throwing an island or something like that while Pit then had to save her after she was overcome by a threat. And again, god slaying is a pretty overdone Japanese (hell, even some Western) trope at this point.

Granted, Ganondorf legitimately is solidly in the mid tiers of the Smash cast in terms of canon powers and abilities as of now, so I guess he is a good threshold.

Zelda itself is among the most powerful Nintendo verses, but only because of the Golden Godesses creating the universe along with an unintended multiverse.

Funnily enough, Pokémon is probably Nintendo's most powerful franchise due to Arceus and the Creation Trio, with the only other one that comes close to my knowledge being Paper Mario with the Pure Hearts and Chaos Heart along with Super Dimentio.

Kirby might reach those levels soon with a confirmed multiverse, but it's currently not there yet.

Fire Emblem has a multiverse as well, but it only reaches such a power level from Heroes, which is non-canon.

Mother also has a confirmed multiverse with that dragon thing being a possible threat to it.

Dragon Quest has a multiverse and multiple characters who can end it, I believe. Probably among the Top 5 and is a contender with the pokémon, but I believe it still loses out.

Then you have the verses with characters who can create/destroy universes of which there are PLENTY. At least a dozen now with the Third Parties included.

Wii Fit Trainer is probably the truly weakest. Olimar only beats her out if we trust the info on his ship that states it can destroy stars, otherwise he loses and Villager can chop tress down with a few swings, literally pluck trees out of the ground, and can fish a whale shark out of the water, so it stands to reason that based on strength, they actually edge out Wii Fit Trainer.

As for the person who said Krystal has a very fleshed out character when compared to most of the other Star Fox characters? Like, where? Her only purpose for the series was for an arbitrary romance plot with Fox along with sex appeal because she's a vixen. Even in terms of her potential in Smash, she barely does any of the fighting in her debut and actually has to be saved while the other games have her mostly taking the backseat to the other members with romance and drama being her main focal points in Command.

She would be cool in terms of the moveset, but not because of her character itself. And saying Star Wolf ain't as developed includes Wolf, which I should tell you is the wrong fight to pick when trying to argue for Krystal's inclusion. I'll agree she's the likeliest character after Falco and Wolf, and in my opinion, she should have priority over Falco, but she's not gonna have more priority and significance to the franchise than Wolf.

It's like arguing Elizabeth from The Seven Deadly Sins is a much better character than Ban. Elizabeth is integral toward the plot, but she's not nearly as significant nor as fleshed out.

Of course, this is just my opinion, though.

I mean, the Fire Emblem multiverse isn't just in Heroes. Awakening and Fates (as well as supplementary-but-still-canon material for Shadows of Valentia) also canonized it with the Outrealms.

 

[Shyy_Guy595]

I mean, the Fire Emblem multiverse isn't just in Heroes. Awakening and Fates (as well as supplementary-but-still-canon material for Shadows of Valentia) also canonized it with the Outrealms.

Ahh, thank you for that.

 

[SmasherMaster]

With the exception of Pac-Man and maybe Ryu, Wii Fit Trainer has the most merit out of all the newcomers from Smash 4.

 

[KatKit]

With the exception of Pac-Man and maybe Ryu, Wii Fit Trainer has the most merit out of all the newcomers from Smash 4.

Wii Fit Trainer's reveal was easily the most hype for me in Smash 4 (followed by Palutena and Bayonetta as close seconds). The Wii Fit was a pretty revolutionary accessory, to be honest. Despite the fact that it was recent and sold well, she still managed to be a surprise pick for Smash. Unorthodox, non-combatants and/or characters that have creative movesets are awesome, IMO. She had it all: she was a great rep for her era and contribution to videogame history, and she was funny, creative, mostly unexpected, etc. The closet thing that I can think of that would top her reveal (as far as hype goes) in Ultimate would be a (long overdue) Style Savvy rep.

 

[UserKev]

I agree that Wii Fit's reveal was special and its extremely memorable come to think of it. I miss that anonymous hype I had for this character, would kill to re-see it, pun intended.