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You can blame the entirety of the industry and copyright law for that. It's a hurdle that no one likes that is very, very slowly being whittled away, with the Smash Bros. franchise being a massively important pioneer in fighting the disgusting mess that is, particularly, Japanese copyright law.
Yeah, sure. But the fact is, Nintendo is the one in charge. So no matter how hard they try, they can't represent 'video game as a whole' - even if they were not biased towards themselves.
Don't forget that HAL already had 2 fighters in the original Smash game.
They're sure making a lot of ground towards proving you wrong.
That's not an opinion
There are still people who feel that Bayonetta actually isn't popular because they're still bitter over something that was nearly 3 and a half years ago
Proving me wrong about what, exactly? Because using the official counting, on a total of 69 fighters there is 61 Nintendo characters on the base roster. How is that not Nintendo-centric? And how could it not be?
And, most of the 3rd party characters are extremely nintendo-relevant.
How many "impossible" characters are we up to, and what makes you think that's going to stop in coming years, decades? Walls are collapsing. The selling power of crossovers is exploding. If Nintendo is crazy enough not to make it happen, another developer will fill the void.
I envy your optimism but developers and publishers don't just hand out licenses for their games willy nilly.
The Morgan Freeman of vidya.
I agree. He works more as an costume then an echo tbh.
INB4 someone brings up Dark Pit.
Some walls may be collapsing, but it takes time and there is a lot of those. Maybe someday, Nintendo will not be over represented in Smash compared to other editors : only then will it be a true 'celebration of gaming as a whole'. But that seems extremely unlikely to me, and right now it certainly isn't. Just compare the Mario and the Sonic franchises: eight characters to one! Why? Are Rosalina, Bowser Jr and Piranha Plant more important in the story of gaming than Tails, Knuckle or Eggman? I'm a Nintendo fan, but I don't think so.
Touche. That didn't occur to me actually.
He's not worth an echo, either.
I'm usually not wishing to debate others' opinions (much less here), but honestly, I find the results to be very "samey" to the Western ones.
I said "slightly" more realistic; they're both similar, but the Japanese one feels at least more in-tune with precedence and a bit more logical overall (still the likes of Porky sitting around).
Well, my intention with my post wasn't to question your tastes, but rather to talk about that part regarding "Japanese choices being more realistic than the Western ones", since all characters in the Japanese poll (except the FE/Pokémon promotionals) appear on the English one under different positions that vary from slightly (like Bandanna Dee being on spot eight in Japan while being one spot three in the Western one) to radically (Heihachi being number 14 in Japan, while being 67/68 in West).
This. It's fine to want someone to be in the game but complaining about their misinclusion drives me insane. The development team spent years making this game and all some people can complain about is their missing favorite waifu or something.
I presume this is the famed Waluigi twitter thing?
I've seen it more from Banjo and Lip beggars, actually.
Is it on these boards? I'm curious how the rest of the Banjo and Lip fanbase reacted to such threats.
No, other places like DeviantArt (Banjo) and TVTropes (Lip).
Also, I'm not accepting cruel de-confirmations. Nah. You can be smart about it and have assist trophies revealed early on.Not being satisfied with a product is not being satisfied with a product, end of story.
Every game dev team works hard to make their own games, Smash doesn't have the right to be treated any differently.
If the character you support didn't make it in, support them even harder. Don't accept that Mii Costume or Assist Trophy. Make some noise, be as loud as you need to be, vote for them whenever possible, let everyone know how much you want them in.
That's the only way you're going to have even a slight impact on the chance that your most-wanted will get in.
Let the trolls call you, “insufferable, greedy spoiled brats.” They do not give a single **** about your happiness.
After all, Ridley and K. Rool didn't get in by their fans accepting that Ridley was, “too big to work,” or K. Rool was, “an irrelevant, dead, character.”
Well said. The "UNGRATEFUL SWINE STOP WISHING FOR THINGS" sect of the fanbase is easily more "insufferable" than any support group on the face of the earth is even capable of being.Not being satisfied with a product is not being satisfied with a product, end of story.
Every game dev team works hard to make their own games, Smash doesn't have the right to be treated any differently.
If the character you support didn't make it in, support them even harder. Don't accept that Mii Costume or Assist Trophy. Make some noise, be as loud as you need to be, vote for them whenever possible, let everyone know how much you want them in.
That's the only way you're going to have even a slight impact on the chance that your most-wanted will get in.
Let the trolls call you, “insufferable, greedy spoiled brats.” They do not give a single **** about your happiness.
After all, Ridley and K. Rool didn't get in by their fans accepting that Ridley was, “too big to work,” or K. Rool was, “an irrelevant, dead, character.”
This. Does anyone actually enjoy having their favorite character revealed as an AT at the very end of the game's hype cycle?
Pretty sure people complaining about any character's inclusion didn't vote for said character.
Who doesn't love being insulted?
Link?
The former was talking about it on a comment page-turned-impromptu-chatroom (long story) that's since way been pushed back, the latter leading up to the release of 4 rather than Ultimate.
