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Everyone knows this, but cutting characters is just a fact of life for fighting games. The more you carry over, inevitably the more work you have to start off doing as a baseline. You can't just increase the roster every single game and make fewer and fewer content and more clones to compensate.
A fact that I'm already aware of, but thank you for bringing it to my attention anyways. Cuts are inevitable in most fighting games for sure, but the thing is that if you cut a beloved character, for a lot of people that is going to sting 2x times as much as the good feel of gaining a new one. Especially when it's for a completely new character which may makes it harder for people to care about.
I treat Smash like treat any video game. When there is a new title to the series I expect new things and don't mind if old things are gone.
Well I honestly don't think there are many more characters to add anyway, well except the one everyone's been requesting. Even toad is in Peach/Daisy's moveset
Because of the attachment people feel to the characters.
Sure, but they're still from other companies not owned by Nintendo: thus, "3rd Party."
You're assuming that they're going to take away some hugely important mascot character by trimming down the roster to let more resources to be diverted to creating and choosing more unique newcomers.
They're classified as 3rd party for legal reasons, Nintendo publishes the game and doesn't have rights to characters they don't own. While Nintendo and Sakurai are much more open to 3rd parties in Smash, it doesn't change the fact that they are 3rd parties.
I know many people who were disappointed with the loss of the many powerups and inventory system between SMB3 and World.
Were you around for SFV and MvC:I?
The problem with this ideology is that I don't think less is more when it comes to Smash. The amount of love, time, and care put into everything Smash related and make most of them so unique that it's all quality content to a person like me and a great many people on this forum I think. Less doesn't really become more for Smash, it's just less. I feel like they did tons of tweaks and updates to character while bringing everyone back and while also bringing in new fighters and content. Just because some characters are less likely to be tried out by some people doesn't mean you should cut characters either, they still add variety and content to the game. Hell, the roster's generally well balanced (Little Mac aside) and I just don't actively see how the game really seems to have suffered from the decisions they made except with regards to maybe a couple of modes.
There's quite a few more Hannenbow fans out there than you think my friend, myself included haha.
Street Fighter V was the epitome of greed and rushed development on Capcom's part and continues to be a fairly miserable profit driven product for it. 16 characters at launch for a fighter is ****ing embarrassing and unreasonable, and while stuff like this might be more standard these days, it's still disgusting. Street Fighter V should never be a comparison anyone uses, period. It may be a general fact of life for fighting games, but Smash isn't just another fighting game and a decent portion of the fighting game community hates hearing it be called one lol.
The worlds they come from are extremely magical and brilliantly crafted on a whole other level, you want to visit them. The characters are fun to where you can feel it, you basically lived in the same neighborhood as them, etc. Nintendo is one of the only companies that legitimately mastered clever imagination.
I question if that's unpopular.
Personally, I don't like that Final Smashes became less unique after Smash 3DS / Wii U. Ditching the Final Smash movesets to make Final Smashes as a whole more viable for competitive play is pretty much a wasted effort when you realize that Final Smashes were never meant to be used competitively; they're either too good, or too atrocious, and balancing them is just not possible.
Final Smashes were never meant for competitive play. They are a one time use massive attack that can net easy kills or deal a massive amount damage. Don't know why some people take it too seriously and worry too much about not having proper counter-play when the idea for a lot of them is just to be a move that can overwhelm opponents with little opposition. And they don't even take that much time to execute, so you are exaggerating their duration. They are mostly better off in free for all matches than 1vs1 battles. And more importantly, you can turn them off, so I don't know why we have to come to the extreme of removing them.
Other areas of the game aren't going to magically improve for just removing Final Smashes. Resources are managed during game development and they work on different things at different times. Final Smashes are also a part of the game's personality and the characters' lore and background, so you would removing a key element from them.
Only about three were actual movesets, and most were just powered up versions of the original movesets.
Four of them actually. But you also have Final Smashes like Super Dragon, Landmaster, and Octopus, where they were all fully controllable. However, as of Ultimate, two of them were replaced by Blue Falcon copycats, while the other has become uncontrollable.
I can see this to a point with the same mechanic like final smashes, but not with items since you’re given full control over all of them haha. Annoying can be great when you actively choose it to break up traditional play.
No they were definitely nerfed far beyond.
I see, so even though shield-grabbing (a tactic that the CPU has been known to do) is still a thing to watch out for, your grab pretty much has to connect to avoid any punishments.
Right. There's a reason competitive play has much less shield-grabbing and more jumping out of shield aerials.
No. No, you can't say that. That's just... too unpopular. Even for this topic.
You aren't. Not every character has to interest everyone.
I mean, I get that. But Joker
Persona fans exist. You're just not one of them. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.
Well in my case I am planning on playing Persona 5. I'm ready to give my money to Atlus if they port P5.
Yet with the reception from his reveal at the VGAs and the fact the E-shop went down and the system update was massively backloaded when he was made available (something that IIRC never happened with Smash 4's DLC characters), it's quite apparent that he's sold himself and the Fighter's Pass just fine.
Welp, stinks you feel that way.
