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[Deleted member]

I would love to see Pauline as a fighter, more so if her moveset involves the Minis.

I have fond memories of the Mario vs DK games for Nintendo DS featuring those toys, so having her with them as part of the moveset would be nostalgic for me to the level of Eight from Dragon Quest VIII

 

[KMDP]

Honestly, to me, the biggest point against "there's no Nintendo characters left to add" isn't even someone like Dixie or Elma or Dee...it's that we still don't have a Rhythm Heaven character.

Anymore talk like that and I'll take away your coloured chalk.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

bandana dee is his own special boy thank you very much, he has a hat and a name and he deals lots of pain

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Honestly, to me, the biggest point against "there's no Nintendo characters left to add" isn't even someone like Dixie or Elma or Dee...it's that we still don't have a Rhythm Heaven character.

Ladies and gentlemen, listen to this man marsupial...

He speaks words of wisdom

 

[Deleted member]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

The thing with Piranha Plant is the fact that it also opened the gates to characters who are for many mere enemies in the game, but at the same part key elements of the plot or lore.

The Baby Metroid, a character that I would love to have in after Piranha Plant, is a good example.

He could be fun, wacky, energetic and maybe cute... But at the same time a key character in the lore of the franchise and the creature who gives the name to the series as a whole.

 

[Opossum]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

Do you really want to live in a world where the newcomers in the next Smash are as follows
Goomba
Koopa Troopa
Shy Guy
Moblin
Bokoblin
Waddle Dee
Eggrobo

I would absolutely want Shy Guy.

Easily my favorite Mario enemy and pretty much the only one that rivals Piranha Plant in the amount of variations it could draw from. Plus he could easily be a second Yoshi character.

 

[Pyra]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

I hope we get a Lizalfos as a playable character

 

[SnakeFighter64]

bandana dee is his own special boy thank you very much, he has a hat and a name and he deals lots of pain

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

Do you really want to live in a world where the newcomers in the next Smash are as follows
Goomba
Koopa Troopa
Shy Guy
Moblin
Bokoblin
Waddle Dee
Eggrobo

Eggrobo would legitimately be hype, if you ask me

 

[Deleted member]

I'm still open to a Boo/King Boo playable character. if they can make it work, of course. Given those stubby little arms, I'm not sure how well he could actually fight. I know Jiggly's got stubby arms too, but she's known for being able to roll around (at the speed of sound), slapping and singing.

Boo though? He appears and reappears...Guess he could bite if he wanted to. And in Mario Kart, he was always the one who would steal items (so I guess a special involving drawing in items or special moves), but I could think of much else unless you involved the other Mario ghosts.

Basically, I'd like Boo, but I can't think of decent way to make it actually happen, so he's just a pipe dream for me lol.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope people realise that if Nintendo only cared about the characters being uber popular we would never have like 1/3 of the roster

Hell even for DLC we wouldn't have Roy, Lucas, Corrin, and even arguably Bayo.

They like to have a mix of uber popular characters and lesser known/less requested characters that will still make people happy. It's good PR. Even in Ultimate, with its limited dev time to create more characters, we wouldn't have Richter, or the allmightytglory of P L A N T if Saks just added more Ridleys and Clouds.

 

[KMDP]

I would absolutely want Shy Guy.

Easily my favorite Mario enemy and pretty much the only one that rivals Piranha Plant in the amount of variations it could draw from. Plus he could easily be a second Yoshi character.

Mask Goomba?

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

Isn't literally named after his species?

 

[Opossum]

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

Didn't this argument die when Yoshi was added though?

It's just another case of the Dog Named Dog trope.

 

[Deleted member]

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

because he's a waddle dee with a bandana

his parents were simple folk

 

[CallMeKnux]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

Bandana Dee is, like, the one highly requested character from fans that casuals would actually recognize. He's basically the face of modern Kirby, appearing in literally every game. Even when they started to omit characters like Meta Knight from games like Triple Deluxe, and multiplayer was gone, they still felt the need to throw him in for the Streetpass sorta thing, when it would have been much easier on devs to just have, say, Dedede take his place. Even in Rainbow Curse, when both Meta AND Dedede were relegated to bonus trophies, Bandana Dee was still who others played as in multiplayer. Waddle Dees themselves are some of the most iconic jobber enemies period, especially in Japan. He's been a very popular character, much different from if they added, say, the Goomba as a playable character.

 

[Deleted member]

The thread is sleeping on the potential of this character.

Spoiler: The Final Smash could be based on this iconic scene.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

The thing with Piranha Plant is the fact that it also opened the gates to characters who are for many mere enemies in the game, but at the same part key elements of the plot or lore.

The Baby Metroid, a character that I would love to have in after Piranha Plant, is a good example.

He could be fun, wacky, energetic and maybe cute... But at the same time a key character in the lore of the franchise and the creature who gives the name to the series as a whole.

Isn't literally named after his species?

I feel like I’m shouting at a wall. You guys would really honestly want more generic enemies with no personality over characters who headline their own game or have an established identity. You’d take Shy Guy over Sylux? You’d take Metroid over Crash Bandicoot? Really?

 

[Megadoomer]

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

Wouldn't the same thing apply to Captain Toad, Yoshi, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pokemon Trainer, Mewtwo, Charizard, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Pichu, Lucario, Greninja, Incineroar, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Piranha Plant, and Inkling? All of those are either descriptions of the characters or names of their species, as opposed to actual names.

 

[CallMeKnux]

The thread is sleeping on the potential of this character.

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Spoiler: The Final Smash could be based on this iconic scene.

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I'm down but we already have the Metroid assist tho

 

[TheMightyP]

The issue of the first party characters as DLC is finding character who would really sell in both hype and financially, as well as appealing to everyone. Piranha Plant was the exception, because I doubt people would be as hype if they had to pay as him. In terms of first party character that would do both, I think it would be Dee, Toad, Waluigi, Dixie, and a Pokemon.

That's probably why the majority of DLC requests are 3rd Parties.

 

[Opossum]

Bandana Dee is, like, the one highly requested character from fans that casuals would actually recognize. He's basically the face of modern Kirby, appearing in literally every game. Even when they started to omit characters like Meta Knight from games like Triple Deluxe, and multiplayer was gone, they still felt the need to throw him in for the Streetpass sorta thing, when it would have been much easier on devs to just have, say, Dedede take his place. Even in Rainbow Curse, when both Meta AND Dedede were relegated to bonus trophies, Bandana Dee was still who others played as in multiplayer. Waddle Dees themselves are some of the most iconic jobber enemies period, especially in Japan. He's been a very popular character, much different from if they added, say, the Goomba as a playable character.

I'd argue that Kirby is the face of modern Kirby.

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like I’m shouting at a wall. You guys would really honestly want more generic enemies with no personality over characters who headline their own game or have an established identity. You’d take Shy Guy over Sylux? You’d take Metroid over Crash Bandicoot? Really?

The Baby Metroid isn’t just a random enemy.
It is a character involved in many ways to most of the events in the Metroid lore.

 

[CallMeKnux]

I'd argue that Kirby is the face of modern Kirby.

Well yeah but I was talking based on characters that made their name in modern Kirby games.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I feel like I’m shouting at a wall. You guys would really honestly want more generic enemies with no personality over characters who headline their own game or have an established identity. You’d take Shy Guy over Sylux? You’d take Metroid over Crash Bandicoot? Really?

Is there a problem with wanting some oddball choices?

I swear, whenever we're on the topic unorthodox character, someone always seems to complain.

 

[Just a penguin]

What is his name then? BANDANNA WADDLE DEE! If he really is his own guy than how come he doesn’t have an actual name and is just a descriptor to his species.

You forgot the "Bandana" part.

 

[Pyra]

Isn't literally named after his species?

So are all the Pokemon.

And if "Erdrick" makes it in with that name, then they'll be named after their title (Which is what "Erdrick" is)- not their name. Not the same as being named after their species, but still.

I'd argue that Kirby is the face of modern Kirby.

Nope, it's Isabelle now. Isabelle is the face of all the modern franchises.

 

[Opossum]

Wouldn't the same thing apply to Captain Toad, Yoshi, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pokemon Trainer, Mewtwo, Charizard, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Pichu, Lucario, Greninja, Incineroar, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Piranha Plant, and Inkling? All of those are either descriptions of the characters or names of their species, as opposed to actual names.

I would absolutely take Shy Guy over Sylux because if it weren't for Smash speculation I wouldn't even know who Sylux was.

Hell, I still know pretty much nothing about him beyond the fact that he's been Thanos teased for the past few games.

 

[KMDP]

You’d take Shy Guy over Sylux?

...This is a bad comparison.

Sylux is barely established as a character, while Shy Guy has been around for 30 years.

But yes, if the "generic enemy" can bring something to the table that nobody else can, I say go for it.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm down but we already have the Metroid assist tho

Nothing to worry about.
They could use its look from Samus Returns, which differs a lot from the look of the Metroid assist trophy.

 

[ZaneHitsurugi]

Piranha Plant is the exception that proves the rule. If we get any more generic fodder characters, then those will all truly be wasted time and money.

Do you really want to live in a world where the newcomers in the next Smash are as follows
Goomba
Koopa Troopa
Shy Guy
Moblin
Bokoblin
Waddle Dee
Eggrobo

This so much. PP was scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel, there are other nintendo characters that are actually characters with high moveset potential. Get these randos outta here.

 

[Pyra]

I would absolutely take Shy Guy over Sylux because if it weren't for Smash speculation I wouldn't even know who Sylux was.

Hell, I still know pretty much nothing about him beyond the fact that he's been Thanos teased for the past few games.

Honestly I would also totally love Shy Guy as a character.
People would be piiiiissed but if he ended up as another free DLC after the Fighter Packs come out I would love it.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Is there a problem with wanting some oddball choices?

I swear, whenever we get an unorthodox character, someone always seems to complain.

Because they are literally the most boring and safe pick they could go with. They’re so uninteresting. They have no personality. No identity.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

This so much. PP was scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel, there are other nintendo characters that are actually characters with high moveset potential. Get these randos outta here.

Posts like this, are why I'm losing faith in the Smash Community...

 

[Opossum]

Because they are literally the most boring and safe pick they could go with. They’re so uninteresting. They have no personality. No identity.

If "no personality" was your issue, then Shy Guy was the wrong enemy to bring up.

 

[Pyra]

PP is probably one of my favorite additions conceptually so far lol

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like I’m shouting at a wall. You guys would really honestly want more generic enemies with no personality over characters who headline their own game or have an established identity. You’d take Shy Guy over Sylux? You’d take Metroid over Crash Bandicoot? Really?

I don't want more generic enemies.

I want Bandana Waddle Dee, who is one of the main characters of the very popular Kirby™ series of video games, developed by HAL Laboratories and published by Nintendo.

 

[KMDP]

Because they are literally the most boring and safe pick they could go with. They’re so uninteresting. They have no personality. No identity.

The Mario enemies are brimming with personality, at least from a graphic standpoint.

If "no personality" was your issue, then Shy Guy was the wrong enemy to bring up.

The personality is literally in the name.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Posts like this, are why I'm losing faith in the Smash Community...

If "no personality" was your issue, then Shy Guy was the wrong enemy to bring up.

*facepalm* what has become of the world. It’s 2016 all over again.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Because they are literally the most boring and safe pick they could go with. They’re so uninteresting. They have no personality. No identity.

Wouldn't picking the highly requested characters be even more safe and boring?

I like variety in my Smash Bros, is there a problem with that?