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[Opossum]

Regarding Forum Support, only admins are able to see threads there. It is a location where users can bring grievances against regular moderators such as myself, so it's ideal for regular moderators to be unable to see them. As you can imagine, a great deal of posts are being made there, or have been moved there recently. With only a few administrators currently active and handling many other things as well, some patience would probably help. 30 minutes is generally not very long for forums, though it may feel like a long while in the context of the speed at which this social thread tends to operate.

Speaking as a relative outsider to the issue at hand, I think a common theme here is that people don't like the actions of the admins themselves, hence why some may be reluctant to go to Forum Support.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Uh, Smash Run.

Iridium , actually, if you're here, what all does the Rankings Team do? I was thinking about applying there a second time, because my first applicatiom was kind of filled out jokingly, and my portfolio could not get uploaded because the upload buttom was locked (?). Anywho, forget about the last stuff i just said; what is the scope of the Rankings Team?

 

[Pyra]

this is obviously bs

gamers, rise and overrun the moderators!! wait how the **** could you even

i think the thread gets your point by now my man

 

[Zinith]

Iridium , avtually, if you're here, what all does the Rankings Team do? I was thinking about applying there a second time, because my first applicatiom was kind of filled out jokingly, and my portfolio could not get uploaded because the upload buttom was locked (?). Anywho, forget about the last stuff i just said; what is the scope of the Rankings Team?

I'm not sure what I can tell you openly on this thread...

 

[Deleted member]

Regarding Forum Support, only admins are able to see threads there. It is a location where users can bring grievances against regular moderators such as myself, so it's ideal for regular moderators to be unable to see them. As you can imagine, a great deal of posts are being made there, or have been moved there recently. With only a few administrators currently active and handling many other things as well, some patience would probably help. 30 minutes is generally not very long for forums, though it may feel like a long while in the context of the speed at which this social thread tends to operate.

I tend to have more problems towards admins themselves as Mods are just following orders they can't really disagree with though. Not really relevant to this, but sometimes I feel like a forum support with Mods as well would be helpful in some way.
And I understand how forum support works and that not many of the admins are active but it's a little ridiculous they can't even properly acknowledge those threads when the reason there's so much chaos here is because those threads are being ignored in the first place.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Nope. I'm done w/ high school and AP classes.

This is college I'm talking about.

My b, well good luck anyway! Dont procrastinate too much

I'm not sure what I can tell you openly on this thread...

Fair enough.

 

[Will]

i think the thread gets your point by now my man

i dont think i was making a point that was just a ****post

 

[TheMightyP]

Honestly, I feel as if there's a bit of a disconnect between regular users and the higher ups. I feel like Forum Support isn't enough, considering how flawed it is, but I think one day, we should just talk it through. Instead of yelling at each other and getting up in arms, we instead just talk to each other, voice our thoughts and opinions, get a better understanding on why you guys do the things you do, and vice versa.

Is this too impratical?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

For what it's worth, I appreciated the Lion King 1 1/2 reference.

Huh, cool. I thought I was the only person on Earth who remembered that movie.

 

[staindgrey]

On one hand, I agree. On the other, given recent events is it at least understandable that people would get mad and want to voice their frustrations where they know they'll be listened to?

Regardless, I apologize if I even indirectly messed up your plans tonight. I just hope moving forward things will improve. That's the last I'll speak on this issue for now.

It's absolutely understandable. I understood from the start.

But I promise you that Forum Support is where everyone will be listened to. Only admins can see it, and they're currently discussing everything that's gone on today and what to do about it. They're reading your concerns, just not giving responses until they agree on the right response. It's a lot of responsibility and it's better to get it right than get it quickly.

I do need to go soon, but if anyone wants to PM me, I'll check my phone through the night and just read and respond to anything you want to say while waiting on your Forum Support response. I can't, like, actively change anything, but I can listen.

I just implore you guys, please stop talking about it in the thread. That's all I ask.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Don't mind me, just waiting for the storm to pass.

 

[Idon]

Just waiting till Smash 6 so I can talk about Smash again

 

[Iridium]

Iridium , avtually, if you're here, what all does the Rankings Team do? I was thinking about applying there a second time, because my first applicatiom was kind of filled out jokingly, and my portfolio could not get uploaded because the upload buttom was locked (?). Anywho, forget about the last stuff i just said; what is the scope of the Rankings Team?

Probably what you would expect. We usually make sure tournaments are properly uploaded and finalized, in which points are given out to players to relate to the rankings (do not think about this part too much). Although not too prevalent here just yet, when you check the rankings section on this site, the usual player rankings you see affected by what we add.

It is quite early in Ultimate's eternal lifespan, so not much is really there for now. I still remember the day I was accepted like it was yesterday.

Zinith Is there anything else I forgot? Maybe too much specificity may be overdoing it.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

What would you like to see in a hypothetical Smash 6 without naming any newcomer fighters?

Please can we stop talking about the past? Put it in forum support or please dont mention it here, thank you.

 

[staindgrey]

Alright, my food's cold as **** and I gotta eat it. Be well everyone.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

My PM's are open as well, if people want to fire criticisms at me I'll be more than happy to hear them. Even if it's not specifically about me but the site, I'll still gladly listen.

 

[Opossum]

Just waiting till Smash 6 so I can talk about Smash again

"bUt ThE wIi U vErSiOn Is SmAsH 5!!"

That hurt to type.

 

[TheMightyP]

Oh, by the way, why did Unova Pokemon League so ugly in the 3DS version? Like, it legit looked better on the DS.

 

[Pyra]

i dont think i was making a point that was just a ****post

oh
it's hard to tell, you've been pretty aggressively sarcastic towards some of the people longposting

like i don't know what purpose it serves to belittle anyone about this tbh
but hey if you're just memeing then fine my bad lol

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Honestly, I feel as if there's a bit of a disconnect between regular users and the higher ups. I feel like Forum Support isn't enough, considering how flawed it is, but I think one day, we should just talk it though. Instead of yelling at each other and getting up in arms, we instead just talk to each other, voice our thoughts and opinions, get a better understanding on why you guys do the things you do, and vice versa.

Is this too impratical?

I mean, that's part of the problem. Part of the problem is transparency, but I digress.

So, uh, how about Projared's plummeting subscriber count?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

"bUt ThE wIi U vErSiOn Is SmAsH 5!!"

That hurt to type.

The truth hurts Opo.

 

[Pyra]

So, uh, how about Projared's plummeting subscriber count?

and future job opportunities

 

[QuiqueST]

How it feels trying to catch up on the thread and understand what is going on after not being online due to finals and projects.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Just waiting till Smash 6 so I can talk about Smash again

But there won't be a Smash 6, there will be a PSABR: Nintendo edition

 

[Opossum]

The truth hurts Opo.

3DS and Wii U are Smash 4-1 and Smash 4-2 and Sakurai is the one who is wrong.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

3DS and Wii U are Smash 4-1 and Smash 4-2 and Sakurai is the one who is wrong.

Smash 4: 1DS
Smash 4: Wii U Boogaloo

 

[Tots Woz]

If I could let down the Scott persona and let up "Serious Scott" if you will, for a moment. I will also post this in Forum Support, but I want this to be voiced here.

I've been talking with NonSpecificGuy and after looking at various user responses about the insight of Forum Support, there seems to be a vast disconnect. I want to partake some words here and in this post before we move on to another topic, because for people on the outside, there are also some innocent staff members who aren't in the know. I think if anything, transparency is absolute key, as it'll help the staff who aren't in the know, and regulars and users here, too. Of course, there's the whole privacy policy thing, but do know that an ample amount can go a huge way. This should go for regular users AND staff team.

Now, when it comes to listening to other users, as ways via the Forum Support, if only admins can see that sort of input, that is a horribly flawed system and would play into why a lot of users feel like their complaints and criticisms aren't heard. It should be equal amongst ALL staff, as it would let higher-ups in the know more of the community, and so forth. It also creates a divide amongst the ranks and as a higher-up community, that shouldn't be happening.

Furthermore on this, I will only be touching on the Cla situation once. If you ask me, this is unfortunately a double-edged sword. Context -- just like transparency -- is key. Some, if not, a good amount of users on here aren't in the wrong to think that what happened is just another day of them being on the boards. A good example of this would be myself during the Etika situation. Desmond has been known to thrive off of the hype and do crazy ****, so before the SWAT team came, I don't think people are in the wrong to think otherwise, as was I, until what drastic measures had happened.

On the other hands, you have to enforce the rules, of course, and that is also where I think transparency and context should be laid down to help people understand, because without those key things, people posting what should be Forum Support posts in this thread will happen. This also applies to my earlier point above about Forum Support.

That being said, those are my thoughts, and I plead that this post gets let up.
This is a message not only for mods, but also insight for the people, too, and I mean nothing but good intentions.

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean, that's part of the problem. Part of the problem is transparency, but I digress.

So, uh, how about Projared's plummeting subscriber count?

Dropped harder than Bayonetta Nerfs.

Spoiler

His career might actually be over. Like, unlike JonTron (who bounced back), I don't think anyone is willing to listen to him anymore.


Plus, he wasn't even that good

 

[Strong Badam]

Speaking as a relative outsider to the issue at hand, I think a common theme here is that people don't like the actions of the admins themselves, hence why some may be reluctant to go to Forum Support.

I tend to have more problems towards admins themselves as Mods are just following orders they can't really disagree with though.

There's still a great deal of value in bringing grievances to forum support. If it's a case where one or two admins in particular may have made a misstep, taking it to Forum Support would prompt the rest of the administration to re-examine the cases and see if a policy change is in order for the future. Such a change cannot happen overnight though.

And I understand how forum support works and that not many of the admins are active but it's a little ridiculous they can't even properly acknowledge those threads when the reason there's so much chaos here is because those threads are being ignored in the first place.

The threads aren't being ignored. There are potentially dozens of users voicing their grievances and only 2 or 3 admins who are even awake at the moment. The administration needs time to properly address your concerns, and potentially need to confer with each other on the best course of action. If you were frustrated with an admin's actions, would you want that admin to tell you that you were wrong and close your thread? I know I wouldn't.
Again, 30 minutes (or an hour... or 8 hours!) just isn't enough time for a proper response to happen. I know that may be frustrating if you want change NOW and answers NOW, but derailing this thread repeatedly isn't going to suddenly make the AFK administrators awaken from slumber and tackle Forum Support threads. Please give it some time. The mods and the admins care a lot about this site and our users, we wouldn't volunteer to do this if we didn't.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, so to shift the topic away from the events that transpired more than an HOUR ago and the moderation involved...

What would you like to see in a hypothetical Smash 6 without naming any newcomer fighters?

More Mother representation in the form of Music.

More SMRPG Content in general.

More Single Player Content, Maybe an actual Story Mode akin to Subspace Emissary

 

[Will]

oh
it's hard to tell, you've been pretty aggressively sarcastic towards some of the people longposting

like i don't know what purpose it serves to belittle anyone about this tbh
but hey if you're just memeing then fine my bad lol

i was just recreating this scene

 

[redfeatherraven]

My PM's are open as well, if people want to fire criticisms at me I'll be more than happy to hear them. Even if it's not specifically about me but the site, I'll still gladly listen.

Even if it's not specifically about the site, you say?

 

[Opossum]

There's still a great deal of value in bringing grievances to forum support. If it's a case where one or two admins in particular may have made a misstep, taking it to Forum Support would prompt the rest of the administration to re-examine the cases and see if a policy change is in order for the future. Such a change cannot happen overnight though.

The threads aren't being ignored. There are potentially dozens of users voicing their grievances and only 2 or 3 admins who are even awake at the moment. The administration needs time to properly address your concerns, and potentially need to confer with each other on the best course of action. If you were frustrated with an admin's actions, would you want that admin to tell you that you were wrong and close your thread? I know I wouldn't.
Again, 30 minutes (or an hour... or 8 hours!) just isn't enough time for a proper response to happen. I know that may be frustrating if you want change NOW and answers NOW, but derailing this thread repeatedly isn't going to suddenly make the AFK administrators awaken from slumber and tackle Forum Support threads. Please give it some time. The mods and the admins care a lot about this site and our users, we wouldn't volunteer to do this if we didn't.

Oh believe me, I go to Forum Support all the time, lol. I'm just saying why I think others are reluctant.

 

[TheMightyP]

So I guess we're all in agreeance that Forum Support is flawed and needs some work. Okay, good to know.

Also, in Smash 6, I hope to see the return of Smash Run, or a new CoOp mode that can be used online as well.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

You know what would be awesome?

Every time you are having a horrible time or going through a crisis, there is a button that you can press which releases an adorable kitten or a cuddly animal for your preference (via drone) from the heavens (from Amazon) for you to cuddle and snuggle with. And when you are fine and ok, the kitten assures (via Echo) they are with you in your heart before departing back (via drone) to the heavens (to Amazon).

But why have an adorable kitty to cuddle and snuggle when you have staff who are here to help you out and listen to you. We may not be adorable as a kitty (save for me) but I assure you that we will listen and help out as much as we justifiably can. And I am willing to bet my month’s teaching salary that we are just as cuddly as a kitty.

The staff knows tensions are high in regards to recent issues with some doubt casted on how the site is run but we do assure you that the staff is listening and understands. I know it might seem voices are drowned out or opinions are listened to but they actually do. We try to improve the site not for own our own gratification and amusement but for the community - you guys.

I have been apart of many different online communities as far as back as 1999. (yes, I’m old) and I have been a mod and an admin of these sites. Some of them were great places while others when defunct. One even canned the whole staff without warning and replaced with staff members who would fall in line more with the owner of the site.

I can’t honestly say that being a staff member of this site, while difficult and at times vexing, has been truly an amazing experience and one that has changed my life for the better. I know of no other community that I would rather belong then to this one. Yes, it changed and has its issues. But it’s these changes and issues that truly makes it a great place to be.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Speaking of Lion King.

The day the soulless live-action remake gets release is the day I'll just be staying home to watch the original animated classic because that's where they're at.

 

[Graizen]

SO , is this Google Search leak real?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

SO , is this Google Search leak real?

What leak may I ask?

 

[Will]

Speaking of Lion King.

The day the soulless live-action remake gets release is the day I'll just be staying home to watch the original animated classic because that's where they're at.

CG is the new trend every decade because technology gets 10 times better

it wont be the first and it wont be the last

also disney out of ideas and them baby boomers love to say millennials will take any nostalgia bucks out of disney's teat

 

[Opossum]

SO , is this Google Search leak real?

By the name alone I'm gonna say no.