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What are you most excited about for E3?

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Scoliosis Jones said:
This is fair, however i'd still point out that Ultimate is entirely based on convenience and the fact that it was an amazing idea. In terms of DLC, traveling to a western country isn't all that convenient in the grand scheme of things.

It could happen. I just don't think it will, and it especially doesn't look all that great for Mortal Kombat.
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i mean
the pokemon dudes fly to the countries they model the regions after
also, kinda feel like sakurai would have no problem traveling like that for business reasons. dude crunches time inhumanely, like that one time he flew home directly after his appearance at E3 loool
 
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Scoliosis Jones said:
This is fair, however i'd still point out that Ultimate is entirely based on convenience and the fact that it was an amazing idea. In terms of DLC, traveling to a western country isn't all that convenient in the grand scheme of things.

It could happen. I just don't think it will, and it especially doesn't look all that great for Mortal Kombat.
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Why can’t the western company travel to Japan for talks?

For real tho.
 
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Oh yeah, since EA and Sony ain't showing up to E3, is the whole event shorter? How are they gonna fill that time up?

I hope E3 isn't some mid this year, but I got a feeling it might be.
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Its going to be the same length as before, only not as many conferences and less cringe possibility (thankfully).
 
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Pyra said:
i mean
the pokemon dudes fly to the countries they model the regions after
also, kinda feel like sakurai would have no problem traveling like that for business reasons. dude crunches time inhumanely, like that one time he flew home directly after his appearance at E3 loool
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Perhaps. But again, this is a comparison between the design of the world for a Pokemon game and DLC content for Smash. One of these is far higher budget than the other.

Quite frankly, I think a western character in Smash gets revealed at E3, or not at all. It's the biggest stage of them all, is usually catered to the west anyway, and is overall just a great time to show off the good stuff with all of the attention on the event. I can't see a good reason to save a western character for a reveal after that. They've done crazier things, but that just seems like the time to drop a bombshell if they're going to do it.

We'll find out in just a little over a month.
 
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Scoliosis Jones said:
Perhaps. But again, this is a comparison between the design of the world for a Pokemon game and DLC content for Smash. One of these is far higher budget than the other.

Quite frankly, I think a western character in Smash gets revealed at E3, or not at all. It's the biggest stage of them all, is usually catered to the west anyway, and is overall just a great time to show off the good stuff with all of the attention on the event. I can't see a good reason to save a western character for a reveal after that. They've done crazier things, but that just seems like the time to drop a bombshell if they're going to do it.

We'll find out in just a little over a month.
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eh i know the comparison is uneven but i'm thinking in terms of sakurai's sheer bottomless dedication to what he's doing

Also yeah I agree it's E3 or nothing for a western character haha
 
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Knight Dude said:
I mean, Scorp and Subz are the Ryu and Ken of the series despite neither being the main character in any of the fighting games. I can see Scorp being chosen, but I'd be lying if I didn't prefer Sub-Zero. He was always my favorite.

As for the Echo thing, they'd be about as different as Ryu and Ken if based on their classic incarnations. If anything, they'd share ALL of their normals. While their Special attacks are drastically different.

I would have liked Mega Man to use Ice Slasher over Crash Bomb. CB has it's uses, but I feel like you mostly use it to force someone to block.
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Well, actually, Liu Kang was more the Ryu, and there was no Ken at that point(maybe Kung Lao? Johnny Cage? Obviously Sonya is the Chun-Li).

Though yeah, nowadays they're the Ryu and Ken. It just wasn't their actual roles till Liu Kang got massacred(in-universe and out-of-universe). I think Scorpion might have higher priority, so Sub-Zero being the echo makes sense. Though to be fair, my main argument against the echo idea was that the Klassic versions weren't that likely to be used. I was beyond wrong on Ed Boon's opinion on that, so I have no real argument for why it couldn't happen. Especially since only having one in would be very unpopular. It's not like with Ken, who doesn't have to be in while Ryu is in. They're not on equal grounds by any means when it comes to popularity. Scorpion and Sub-Zero are a very different story. When Scorpion or Sub-Zero weren't in an MK game, it had a lot of backlash. UMK3 was created just to fix this issue alone.

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Honestly, they could have the same normals, but specials between Scorpion and Sub would have to be different. Scorpion can't use an ice ball, ice clone, or slide, and Sub can't use a spear or teleport. I wouldn't say it's impossible for them to be echoes with entirely different specials, but the likely outcome if we somehow get an MK character, which I doubt, is that we get one or the other.
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Pretty much. I don't think it'd be a problem with animations, as they'd just need new ones. Though the 3D games changed it up more, the 2D games were famous for every MK character having the same normals to some degree. Scorpion and Sub-Zero being clones(for many moves besides the basic ones) also helped, as they had nearly identical combos due to being palette swaps and all.

That said, figuring out a good costume list is difficult. Assuming Scorpion wouldn't get colors based upon the Sub-Zero duo, that is. Plus, Sub-Zero has his Shredder helmet, which helps differentiate him. Though perhaps they could go more with their Modern looks, but use their Klassic abilities/bodyshapes.
 
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Im legit looking foward to see the Devolver Digital chick doing more bizarre **** onstage.
 
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Scoliosis Jones said:
This is fair, however i'd still point out that Ultimate is entirely based on convenience and the fact that it was an amazing idea. In terms of DLC, traveling to a western country isn't all that convenient in the grand scheme of things.

It could happen. I just don't think it will, and it especially doesn't look all that great for Mortal Kombat.
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I honestly don't believe it's as impractical as you're implying. It's not as easy as walking over to Capcom or Namco, but it's not like Sakurai hasn't left Japan to go to western events such as E3, and we know he has to have had gotten in touch with western developers before since we have the Shovel Knight AT and Rayman Spirits in the base game. If he's been able to open up channels of discussion to get the rights for those characters and fly out of the country before, it's not out of the question he'd do the same for a western character that he wants playable. He's a man willing to go above and beyond for the characters he finds interesting, and if he finds a western character interesting I don't think convenience would be a barrier to that endeavor.
 
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Zinith said:
I can't imagine what Nintendo might offer new at this conference :yoshi:

Year of Yoshi announcement would be nice though...
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To be 100% honest, I'm not that concerned with the new stuff.

Obviously I wanna see what cool games they have in store, but at the moment i'm more interested in DLC, Animal Crossing and obviously Pokemon.

So yeah, they can kinda show me anything.
 
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Mythra said:
Im legit looking foward to see the Devolver Digital chick doing more bizarre **** onstage.
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I'm looking forward to them FINALLY ****ING RELEASING METAL WOLF CHOAS!!! I WANT TO TAKE THE NATION BACK FROM THE EVIL VICE PRESIDENT!!
 
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Chinderblock said:
Well, actually, Liu Kang was more the Ryu, and there was no Ken at that point(maybe Kung Lao? Johnny Cage? Obviously Sonya is the Chun-Li).

Though yeah, nowadays they're the Ryu and Ken. It just wasn't their actual roles till Liu Kang got massacred(in-universe and out-of-universe). I think Scorpion might have higher priority, so Sub-Zero being the echo makes sense. Though to be fair, my main argument against the echo idea was that the Klassic versions weren't that likely to be used. I was beyond wrong on Ed Boon's opinion on that, so I have no real argument for why it couldn't happen. Especially since only having one in would be very unpopular. It's not like with Ken, who doesn't have to be in while Ryu is in. They're not on equal grounds by any means when it comes to popularity. Scorpion and Sub-Zero are a very different story. When Scorpion or Sub-Zero weren't in an MK game, it had a lot of backlash. UMK3 was created just to fix this issue alone.


Pretty much. I don't think it'd be a problem with animations, as they'd just need new ones. Though the 3D games changed it up more, the 2D games were famous for every MK character having the same normals to some degree. Scorpion and Sub-Zero being clones(for many moves besides the basic ones) also helped, as they had nearly identical combos due to being palette swaps and all.

That said, figuring out a good costume list is difficult. Assuming Scorpion wouldn't get colors based upon the Sub-Zero duo, that is. Plus, Sub-Zero has his Shredder helmet, which helps differentiate him. Though perhaps they could go more with their Modern looks, but use their Klassic abilities/bodyshapes.
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Okay, the ideal Scorpion/Sub-Zero inclusion has them using more modern designs like the MK11 ones, while also having klassic kostume alts. Bonus points if said klassic kostumes have colors for the other ninjas so that I can feel like I'm playing my boy Rain in at least one game
 
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I vote for the Sub-Zero trailer to have Mario and Sub-Zero face-off the same way characters do in Mortal Kombat 11.

Or Ryu vs Sub-Zero
 
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