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What are you most excited about for E3?


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So, we're looking at:
  • Joker
  • Erdrick
  • Banjo-Kazooie/Master Chief
  • Resident Evil/Phoenix Wright
  • Tales of/KOS-MOS
That's a mighty fine DLC pass if I do say so myself.
I would be satisfied with that ( Even if Steve did not make it in ;-; ).
This is a good prediction, but just remember.
Reggie said that DLC is going to be "unexpected". So expect some random stuff, really.
 
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Also we're likely getting a double character reveal at E3 now.

One character releases after the presentation, the other is revealed.
 

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Hey guys, I know I said this before, but...

What if there WASN'T a Microsoft rep? Like, we all overhyped ourselfs thinking one was in? Then what?
I don't believe in a "Microsoft rep". I believe in Banjo-Kazooie. That duo is the last of the "King K. Ridley" type characters alongside Geno. A long-running, frequent, hugely requested character for Smash sense 64. It feels weird to have to explain that to the people here. Like, I'm not exactly the oldest person here, but I remember they hype culture from 3DSU era. Banjo and K. Rool were the two most consistently requested characters. To the point where people who didn't even want them supported them for the sake of the movement. It's sad to see that that culture has apparently died off. People suggesting Banjo was the spark of us even believing that a Microsoft character was even possible! He's important to Smash itself, beyond individual nostalgia. And the fact that that doesn't matter to many of you is deeply disturbing to me.
 
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I think Mii Costumes returning and DLC Spirits are one of the most interesting points for speculation. From them we can assume the following:
  • DLC Mii Costumes from Sm4sh will likely return
    • this isn't entirely true since the Akira costume from Virtua Fighter did not return
    • This specifically affects Geno, Monster Hunter, Lloyd, and Heihachi
  • Series with Spirits are at a disadvantage in terms of getting new fighters.
    • Spirits might literally disconfirm characters.
Furthermore, Joker's incredibly faithful representation has ramifications for DLC as a whole if we assume that every character will receive similar treatment. This effects Heihachi and Tekken fighters specifically. Sakurai said that incorporating Tekken's 3D movement in Smash was too difficult to include him in Smash 4, and I feel like, for DLC, if he can't incorporate Tekken's movement Heihachi, or any Tekken character for that matter, is highly unlikely.

So then, who's left?

In terms of Capcom, I feel like @Scoliosis Jones' point about Dante and Amaterasu is correct. We know for a fact Dante is out (:(), and I feel like Kamiya would know if Amaterasu was in given that he and Sakurai are friends. Sakurai would, at the very least, talk to Kamiya about Amaterasu's inclusion. So, Ammy is out. For the sake of the argument we'll say Megaman and Street Fighter are out since they already have characters and spirits that are in. This leaves two series from my point of view:
  • Resident Evil, and
  • Phoenix Wright
I'd give Resident Evil the advantage simply because it is undeniably one of Capcom's most popular and best selling series. However, the popularity and longevity of the Phoenix Wright franchise alongside the series' strong ties to Nintendo are not to be underestimated. I do feel like Resident Evil is more conducive to Mii Costumes, however.

In terms of Square Enix Dragon Quest simply makes the most sense, especially alongside all the other points in Erdrick's favor. I suppose Kingdom Hearts could be possible if Disney plays along, but that's highly unlikely. We get Erdrick as a fighter and other heroes as Mii Costumes (+ a Slime Hat) and Spirits. The Geno and Chocobo Mii Costumes also return (sorry Geno fans)

Namco is harder to figure out given that both Heihachi and Lloyd, the two most popular speculation picks, have Mii Costumes that could very likely make a return. Going based off of my prior argument against Tekken, we'll assume that it's out. So, who's left?
  • A Tales of character (*that isn't Lloyd)
    • It could still be Lloyd given Sakurai's statement about Lloyd being "the only choice" for Tales of characters
  • KOS-MOS
  • Agumon
These are ranked in order of likelihood. I strongly believe in a Tales of character, but KOS-MOS is a dark horse pick given that she seems to be the de facto mascot of Namco in crossover games. Agumon is mentioned solely for the sake of appeasing Graizen because it's possible. Bonus points if the character is Lloyd and they start by revealing his Mii Costume.

Our final DLC fighter is going to either Banjo & Kazooie or Master Chief (I'd lean towards Banjo Kazooie). Steve and the character who doesn't get in between Banjo and Chief will be a Mii Costume. I'd bet on a Creeper Hat as well, and maybe we also get other characters from the Halo series as Mii Costumes (the Plasma Sword will be used for a Mii Swordfighter costume).

So, we're looking at:
  • Joker
  • Erdrick
  • Banjo-Kazooie/Master Chief
  • Resident Evil/Phoenix Wright
  • Tales of/KOS-MOS
That's a mighty fine DLC pass if I do say so myself.
Man, if we could get KOS-MOS despite everything going against her, I be the happiest man alive.

That, and I be pretty cool with the characters you mentionned too, but KOS-MOS man....she is the dream pick for me.:dr^_^:
 

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Depends on what you didn't like.
That depends, what didn't you enjoy about P4? If it was the writing then aaaaahahahahahaha P5 will make you scream into your pillow at night
Okay, lemme try and remember the game. I only got like five hours in or so while on vacation playing on the plane.

- I liked the aesthetics. The visual style was cool and Chie was awesome.
- Far as English voices for a very Japanese game, the voices weren't bad at all. I mostly liked the cast.
- I didn't like the overabundance of dialogue. It felt like they took ten minutes to say what could have been said in two, and I was just hitting the X button repeatedly to get through it.
- I didn't like the Shenmue-lite style of micromanaging your schedule and navigating the school to find certain rooms for... I don't even remember what. I dunno. Maybe it was because I was playing on mobile, but I remember getting really, really bored waiting to get to parts that mattered. I didn't know I was signing up for a Japanese high school life sim.
- That one song on ****ing repeat. I don't remember the lyrics but goddamn play a different song.

My memory's hazy since this was like three years ago in the middle of a vacation but yeah. I could boot up my save file and see how far I got.
 
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Is Master Chief still in the running?

I know the Halo twitter account replied to a tweet asking people who'd they want in Smash, and idk if what the Halo director said means anything because the discussion regarding that was confusing.
 

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Hey guys, I know I said this before, but...

What if there WASN'T a Microsoft rep? Like, we all overhyped ourselfs thinking one was in? Then what?
Oh, it's definitely possible. There's nothing super concrete hinting at Banjo or Steve, at least not on the level that Erdrick has. So it's possible that we could get neither.

That last slot (based on the Mii theory) can go to pretty much anyone, not just Banjo/Steve.
 

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Oh hey here’s a small small update on my Pyra drawing from yesterday

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I’m pretty happy so far!
 

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I would be satisfied with that ( Even if Steve did not make it in ;-; ).
This is a good prediction, but just remember.
Reggie said that DLC is going to be "unexpected".
>le "Nintendo is random and Reggie said DLC would be unexpected argument"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXk9AguQ_QY
(mod edit: censored word in video title/content :forrest:)

These characters are unexpected to everyone but the small minority of fans who frequent this one topic on this one forum. I assure they're still unexpected by a large majority of people.

This is putting the point that Reggie's statement was obviously PR for the game aside. Seriously. Who the **** is going to say "All of the characters will be expected so you know what's coming" for their console-seller mega hit title of 2018?

No one. That's who.
 
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That's what I meant by " I understand the idea of roster work-load".

And what everyone is saying is true. ALL characters have been getting more and more attention to detail in the last couple games. It's just disappointing to see some of those original icons without any alternate costumes or the mechanics from their games. Add to that the DLC characters getting things like totally unique inputs (Ryu) or new celebration mechanics (Joker)... and it just makes you sad for what other characters might be under different circumstances.
I think a part of it is that getting to work with 3rd parties is a huge privilege and Sakurai realizes that.

1st party characters are easy to negotiate or add, at least in terms of negotiation. Meanwhile getting their hands on the rights to add a character like Joker or Cloud is much more difficult for Nintendo, so it makes sense that someone like Sakurai would go the extra mile with them to make sure it's worth it for both companies involved.
 
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Okay, lemme try and remember the game. I only got like five hours in or so while on vacation playing on the plane.

- I liked the aesthetics. The visual style was cool and Chie was awesome.
- Far as English voices for a very Japanese game, the voices weren't bad at all. I mostly liked the cast.
- I didn't like the overabundance of dialogue. It felt like they took ten minutes to say what could have been said in two, and I was just hitting the X button repeatedly to get through it.
- I didn't like the Shenmue-lite style of micromanaging your schedule and navigating the school to find certain rooms for... I don't even remember what. I dunno. Maybe it was because I was playing on mobile, but I remember getting really, really bored waiting to get to parts that mattered. I didn't know I was signing up for a Japanese high school life sim.
- That one song on ****ing repeat. I don't remember the lyrics but goddamn play a different song.

My memory's hazy since this was like three years ago in the middle of a vacation but yeah. I could boot up my save file and see how far I got.
Then you probably wouldn't like P5. Its script destroys P4 in terms of length, it's still a high school sim (albeit with less filler) and there's still only one battle theme for the most of the game.
 
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Also we're likely getting a double character reveal at E3 now.

One character releases after the presentation, the other is revealed.
> tmw at the last moment you know who's reveal trailer comes and saves your persona and soul from a super close ****ing bullet

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- That one song on ****ing repeat. I don't remember the lyrics but goddamn play a different song.
now i face out
i hold out
i REACH OUT TO THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE
SEEKING TO SEIZE ON THE WHOLE MOMENT TO NOW
BREAK
AWAAAAAAAAAAAY

Okay, lemme try and remember the game. I only got like five hours in or so while on vacation playing on the plane.

- I liked the aesthetics. The visual style was cool and Chie was awesome.
- Far as English voices for a very Japanese game, the voices weren't bad at all. I mostly liked the cast.
- I didn't like the overabundance of dialogue. It felt like they took ten minutes to say what could have been said in two, and I was just hitting the X button repeatedly to get through it.
- I didn't like the Shenmue-lite style of micromanaging your schedule and navigating the school to find certain rooms for... I don't even remember what. I dunno. Maybe it was because I was playing on mobile, but I remember getting really, really bored waiting to get to parts that mattered. I didn't know I was signing up for a Japanese high school life sim.
- That one song on ****ing repeat. I don't remember the lyrics but goddamn play a different song.

My memory's hazy since this was like three years ago in the middle of a vacation but yeah. I could boot up my save file and see how far I got.
But anyway, let's go down the list.

-Persona 5's aesthetics are even better in my opinion, so no trouble there.
-The English voice cast for P5 is pretty good, so again, no problem.
-Persona 5 has a lot of dialogue too.
-Again, Persona 5 does this too, but this time it has the added benefit of being able to just teleport to whatever room you need to go to at pretty much any time.
-Persona 5 only has one regular battle theme, just like P4.

So, in essence, the things you disliked are the staples of Persona.
 
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> tmw at the last moment you know who's reveal trailer comes and saves your persona and soul from a super close ****ing bullet

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ugh yeah man, i really can't wait until that sweet sweet sense of relief when the trailer starts and you hear it fade in
 
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>le "Nintendo is random and Reggie said DLC would be unexpected argument"


These characters are unexpected to everyone but the small minority of fans who frequent this one topic on this one forum. I assure they're still unexpected by a large majority of people.

This is putting the point that Reggie's statement was obviously PR for the game aside. Seriously. Who the **** is going to say "All of the characters will be expected so you know what's coming" for their console-seller mega hit title of 2018?

No one. That's who.
You are correct, I suppose.
I mean the average thirteen year old who does not come here would not expect Phoenix Wright. :p
 
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ugh yeah man, i really can't wait until that sweet sweet sense of relief when the trailer starts and you hear it fade in
I still can't believe that Fantano would give the Minecraft soundtrack a 8/10 while he gave BTS and MBDTF both 5 and 6/10.
 

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I don't believe in a "Microsoft rep". I believe in Banjo-Kazooie. That duo is the last of the "King K. Ridley" type characters alongside Geno. A long-running, frequent, hugely requested character for Smash sense 64. It feels weird to have to explain that to the people here. Like, I'm not exactly the oldest person here, but I remember they hype culture from 3DSU era. Banjo and K. Rool were the two most consistently requested characters. To the point where people who didn't even want them supported them for the sake of the movement. It's sad to see that that culture has apparently died off. People suggesting Banjo was the spark of us even believing that a Microsoft character was even possible! He's important to Smash itself, beyond individual nostalgia. And the fact that that doesn't matter to many of you is deeply disturbing to me.
You know why I don't care? Because core fan requests have been shown to only go so far.

Geno, Isaac, Bandana Dee, Ashley, Skull Kid/Impa/Flavor of the Week Legend of Zelda character, and many other "core picks" who defined speculation cycles still aren't in the game. Banjo & Kazooie are no different.

If Banjo & Kazooie get in Smash it won't be solely because of his fanbase. It's likely support from the core fanbase would be a component, but fan support isn't the end-all-be-all.
 
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I love Steve, but I am beginning to have doubts myself.
It is kind of saddening, but it is what it is.
 

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now i face out
i hold out
i REACH OUT TO THE TRUTH OF MY LIFE
SEEKING TO SEIZE ON THE WHOLE MOMENT TO NOW
BREAK
AWAAAAAAAAAAAY
That wasn't the song though. **** y'all are gonna make me look it up.


This one. It's a good song but I didn't want to listen to it on repeat everywhere I went.
 

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You may ask yourself. "Why should Phoenix Wright be in Smash? A Resident Evil character makes more sense, and what would he even do for a Final Smash?"

Simple.

Out-do Joker.


I rest my case. Best Final Smash hands down. Y'all need to hop on the Phoenix train.
Popping the BIGGEST bottles when Phoenix's final smash is the triple objection from Dual Destinies
 
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Gonna throw this onto my post 'cause I want to start a war.

Anyways, what's everyone's thoughts on the new Stage Builder? Does it look better or worse?
 
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