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[Alternis]

This.

Contrast this theme with the one from Yoshi's Island DS...

Spoiler

This has probably been mentioned many times, but that bass and rhythm line sounds eerily similar to the Song of Storms.

 

[Deleted member]

Yoshi games are Mario games in the same way Mario Kart is a Mario Game

 

[Luigi The President]

DELZETHIN SAID DRAGONBORN HAS A CHANCE AT BEING DLC

WHEN HE BECOMES A MAINSTREAM WANT Y'ALL BETTER REMEMBER ME

(and Captain America <3)

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Thoughts?

Tfw the Hollywood Pokemon film coming out this year, looks leagues better than the Japanese one

 

[Zinith]

This has probably been mentioned many times, but that bass and rhythm line sounds eerily similar to the Song of Storms.

Kinda seems obvious when they have the same composer...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

This has probably been mentioned many times, but that bass and rhythm line sounds eerily similar to the Song of Storms.

Saying it's been mentioned "many" times is an understatement.

Nothing wrong with recognizing the similar melody, though, haha.

 

[Deleted member]

Now let's raise the bar. Name one video game song that's objectively better that "Meta Knight's Revenge-Brawl"

Bramble Blast-Brawl

 

[Deleted member]

I say "trans rights"

I fixed that for you.

 

[Alternis]

Kinda seems obvious when they have the same composer...

I've never really heard of Kondo doing it before. It just surprised me.

Saying it's been mentioned "many" times is an understatement.

Nothing wrong with recognizing the similar melody, though, haha.

I bet, haha. It's my first time really listening to it, so I just couldn't help it.

 

[PsySmasher]

Yoshi games are Mario games in the same way Mario Kart is a Mario Game

Zinith be like:

 

[Deleted member]

I fixed that for you.

I say "Just Cause Guy"

 

[Idon]

I fixed that for you.

Shiny, you can't just randomly come in here and say "trans rights."

DELZETHIN SAID DRAGONBORN HAS A CHANCE AT BEING DLC

WHEN HE BECOMES A MAINSTREAM WANT Y'ALL BETTER REMEMBER ME

(and Captain America <3)

Yeah Delz also said Lycanroc was gonna happen.
Aint nobody perfect with speculation.

 

[Deleted member]

May I vent for a minute?

Spoiler: Mature(?)

I just got out of a really terrible relationship with someone who I thought I liked, This person liked me a whole lot too. At first everything was normal there was a person who approached me online asking to be my friend and I said sure, this was a few months back mind you around Mid-last month everything was going smoothly the first month we were getting along great and we learned a lot about each other which made us really good friends and even trained together.

We learned a lot about each other during then and we had a lot of things in common which made us seem really close, This person had some issues that I managed to help them through so they were grateful and I was happy to help but then things took a steep turn and we had a lot of bad stuff done together. That stuff eventually became all our friendship really was, it wasn't healthy and I saw that this relationship wasn't very healthy but I didn't have the courage to speak up and break it up.

Because of this the person became very attached to me and I didn't want to break their heart so again, I continued to be in a relationship with this person. This person was a very nice, sweet and friendly person mind you which was why I continued cause I didn't want to break a kind person's heart.

This relationship was becoming to the point that it was very clearly not healthy and it was starting to become similar to a terrible relationship I had before, That relationship looking back at it the one this was becoming similar to that is, I regretted it. I didn't want this to become like that but unfortunately it did.

I was hesitant to break up the relationship cause they were a nice person but not until twenty minutes ago did I break it up. I feel sorry for the other person and I wish them the best of luck but I managed to get out of this very unhealthy relationship.

I think the reason I got into this relationship was cause of the realization that I had before about me feeling lonely, I did feel lonely but that relationship while unhealthy made me not feel so lonely and I think that's a part of the reason I stayed for a bit. I don't want to feel lonely but I broke it up cause it had to be done eventually one way or another one of us were going to be hurt I didn't want that to happen.

I don't really know what to think at the moment I guess I'm gonna go draw to get my mind off of it.

 

[Z25]

BANJO KAZOOIE REVEAL AND ANIMAL CROSSING LETS GOOOO

Maybe we put too much good stuff in the newest episode of #InsideXbox.

Find out Tuesday April 16 at 2 PM PT: https://t.co/TjI6Mho4fj pic.twitter.com/bnEEngYa7A

— Xbox (@Xbox) April 10, 2019

...wait hold up

Inb4 banjo is actually announced

 

[Deleted member]

DELZETHIN SAID DRAGONBORN HAS A CHANCE AT BEING DLC

WHEN HE BECOMES A MAINSTREAM WANT Y'ALL BETTER REMEMBER ME

(and Captain America <3)

HMMMMMMMMM

I'm down with this idea. Elder Scrolls intrigues me, so I wouldn't mind this outcome.

 

[Luigi The President]

Shiny, you can't just randomly come in here and say "trans rights."



Yeah Delz also said Lycanroc was gonna happen.
Aint nobody perfect with speculation.

The implication was that Dragonborn's gonna be popular now because a dude with 55k views on his newest video bought him up

 

[Knight Dude]

Anything interesting pop-up today? I know about the Stage Builder stuff.

 

[TheMightyP]

I guess the issue is that when we look at the mainline DKC or Wario games, they're pretty far removed from Mario, since they feature different enviroments, enemies, main villians, and storylines not directly tied into the main Mario universe. As for Yoshi, his games are made to be a prequel to the Mario franchise, and as such, they feature the same characters, enemies, and main villians that you would see in a mainline Mario game. The only mainline crossover I could think of between Mario and DK was New Donk City, and that was moreso for tha arcade DK than DKC, and I don't even remember the last time Wario appeared in a mainline Mario game. That's why majority of the crossovers with Mario, DK, and Wario are spinoffs.

 

[Deleted member]

Anything interesting pop-up today? I know about the Stage Builder stuff.

Gaming INTEL was full of ****, but we all sort of assumed that anyways. Otherwise, nothing.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I forgot a hot beat in my soundtrack list.

(also add Majora's Mask in there)

also Twitter now has Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Mewtwo, and Detective Pikachu emojis.

Want Pokémon emojis? You got ‘em. #Squirtle #Bulbasaur #Charmander #Mewtwo pic.twitter.com/bWHUJncYhb

— POKÉMON Detective Pikachu (@DetPikachuMovie) April 10, 2019

 

[Deleted member]

Me: Watches Nintendo Related Video on YouTube
YouTube: Yo, I got some new videos I wanna show you
Me: Sure
YouTube: EVOLUTION OF MARIO'S OVERALLS IN SPIN OFF GAMES(1992-2019)

 

[Deleted member]

Zinith be like:
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Zinith's transformation to GodEmperorYoshi ( 2019, Colorized )

 

[TMNTSSB4]

>Donkey Kong debuted in Mario's first ever game in his own debut as Jumpman
>Donkey Kong original characters have appeared in Mario spin-offs, as as K. Rool and the Kritters being playable in Mario Super Sluggers
>Donkey Kong has made several appearances in Mario games such as Mario vs. Donkey Kong
>Mario has been directly referenced in the DKC series more than once
>Donkey Kong Country is still not directly related to the Mario series

Oh cool an old Mario and Donkey Kong/Yoshi/Wario argument this place ends up having every once in awhile cause we can’t agree on how that life functions

Thoughts?

humans still look weird...but the rest looks awesome

 

[PsySmasher]

The implication was that Dragonborn's gonna be popular now because a dude with 55k views on his newest video bought him up

One popular person bringing it up doesn't necessarily mean that character will always become more popular.

It was one thing w/ Rayman in Smash 4 b/c Artsy Omni created a legitimate looking leak that got people thinking about how he'd fit in Smash.

Dragonborn was just discussed in a DLC speculation video.

Not trying to be a downer, but it can take quite a bit more to really make waves in the Smash speculation scene.

 

[Deleted member]

DELZETHIN SAID DRAGONBORN HAS A CHANCE AT BEING DLC

WHEN HE BECOMES A MAINSTREAM WANT Y'ALL BETTER REMEMBER ME

(and Captain America <3)

Seems like we're slowly gettin' you back, Weege.

Have you heard that I might possibly die in June?

 

[Deleted member]

Ultimate needed more new stages. I feel like there were some unnecessary old stages that could've been cut in favor of new ones.

 

[Deleted member]

Inb4 banjo is actually announced

Inb4 is for Brawlhalla

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Ultimate needed more new stages. I feel like there were some unnecessary old stages that could've been cut in favor of new ones.

That’s what dlc is for...5 new stages among other things and Sakurai gets to have a break

 

[Luigi The President]

Seems like we're slowly gettin' you back, Weege.

Have you heard that I might possibly die in June?

I'll be back soon enough! What's happening in June?

One popular person bringing it up doesn't necessarily mean that character will always become more popular.

It was one thing w/ Rayman in Smash 4 b/c Artsy Omni created a legitimate looking leak that got people thinking about how he'd fit in Smash.

Dragonborn was just discussed in a DLC speculation video.

Not trying to be a downer, but it can take quite a bit more to really make waves in the Smash speculation scene.

It got 55k views chief it's a win from me, either way it's gonna have an effect on how much Dragonborn is discussed.

 

[KMDP]

Sure, the newcomers could be from a currently not represented Nintendo series. But I'll be completely honest. I'm convinced by a number of things, that each fighter pack is going to reflect the same ideas. I'll outline a few reasons.

1) "Joker is emblematic of the approach for DLC"
Joker from Persona 5, a 3rd party title that hasn't even been released on Switch yet, is coming with a brand new stage, music, and potential assist trophy from a series not yet in Smash. There's even a chance for new Spirits, or at least I assume there will be considering the regular spirit updates. So, each fighter pack comes with

1. fighter
2. stage
3. plenty of music
4. potential assist trophy
5. potential alternate costumes
6. potentail spirits

At the very least, I believe this rules out more newcomers from series already in Smash. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. However, with the amount of content in each pack it just seems...counterproductive, I guess? Like, for example, we've already got several Mario stages, Mario music, Mario items...and then another character adds yet another? What stage do they get? What music? What else could they add in a significant amount like Persona 5 without making it seem like overkill?

On the flip side, if you add an entirely new series that would similar as to how "emblematic" Joker Pack 1 is, then you include entirely new content that draws in a wider audience. This leads me to my next point.

2) The investors meeting
During the investors meeting, there was mentioning of increasing the exposure the game was getting (I don't have the official quote). They said, "we're working on that". What reaches a wider audience when it comes to a game like Smash...adding another Nintendo character that doesn't reach a wider audience, like (no offense) Bandanna Waddle Dee or (again, no offense) Isaac from Golden Sun, which is likely relatively unknown to the gaming audience at large...OR, a character from a AAA series like Resident Evil, which is not only one of the largest media franchises in gaming, but is one that is recently making a sort of comeback? In terms of broadening the audience of Smash, the answer is clear. If you add new series that can spread the audience outside of the Nintendo fans that are already buying the game, you have a better opportunity to make a profit.

3) That one leak of Joker, Mementos, and Erdrick.
While this is effectively speculation, and only speculation, on my part...the Erdrick pack that this particular leak outlines is on par with the Joker pack. You get alternate skins of Erdrick and the Luminary, you get a stage, and Slime gets in...as basically an assist or part of the moveset. This is clearly "emblematic" of the Joker pack.

Out of 5 packs of paid DLC, two of them are 3rd party characters. Again, there's nothing to say that it's absolutely going to be entirely 3rd party characters, but I think it's likely. This leads to my NEXT point.

4) Nintendo has to be able to sell the DLC packs to a wider audience.
This is basically an extension of my previous point. What's easier to sell? A character from a series not in Smash yet, that brings a new moveset, new setting, new music, and potential new additional content, or a character that non-Nintendo fans will get hyped for?

I mean no disrespect to fans of the character, but selling a character isn't necessarily as easy as one might think. If you start with Joker, and then Erdrick or even if it's just the Luminary and then...follow it up with Bandanna Waddle Dee, a character that fans who aren't hardcore Nintendo players will likely see as "a blob with a spear", it makes it harder to sell the character. Now, Nintendo fans know there's more to BWD (while I'm not a huge fan of the pick myself, he's more than a blob with a stick). would be willing. But those same fans would buy the pack anyway. The point of the DLC is to get sales beyond Nintendo fans.

I'll cut myself off here, and I'm not saying there's a 0% chance of Nintendo newcomers happening but I frankly don't think it's all that likely. There's more content to pull from when you look beyond the Nintendo library, it expands the theme of the game being "the biggest crossover in gaming history", and it appeals to a wider audience that fits with the "emblematic" Joker. Adding a Nintendo character does...very little of any of those by comparison.

These are all good points, I'd like to iterate on point 2.

Bandana Dee doesn't really appeal to anyone that isn't already a Smash fan, to be honest. He's not really DLC material, he's more Base Game material. Same with Dixie Kong. People would absolutely buy them, no doubt, but it's not going to bring in new audiences like, say, Ryu and Cloud would have.

Isaac is a little more complicated, since Golden Sun has been Nintendo's only traditional JRPG (not counting Pokémon, which isn't really "traditional"). The thing is, the only way to justify Isaac's inclusion would be a new Golden Sun game, He... might bring in new audiences, but that's highly doubtful.

 

[Deleted member]

That’s what dlc is for...5 new stages among other things and Sakurai gets to have a break

I meant for the base game.

 

[Knight Dude]

I guess the issue is that when we look at the mainline DKC or Wario games, they're pretty far removed from Mario, since they feature different enviroments, enemies, main villians, and storylines not directly tied into the main Mario universe. As for Yoshi, his games are made to be a prequel to the Mario franchise, and as such, they feature the same characters, enemies, and main villians that you would see in a mainline Mario game. The only mainline crossover I could think of between Mario and DK was New Donk City, and that was moreso for tha arcade DK than DKC, and I don't even remember the last time Wario appeared in a mainline Mario game. That's why majority of the crossovers with Mario, DK, and Wario are spinoffs.

Mario 64 DS was the last time Wario himself showed up. But he, Diddy and even Waluigi got costumes in Odyssey. I wish the other characters got more of their own games from time to time. Peach and Wario in particular since their style of platforming is different enough from Mario. Unless they go the Castlevaina and Mega Man route of having more main games with multiple player characters.

 

[Zinith]

I guess the issue is that when we look at the mainline DKC or Wario games, they're pretty far removed from Mario, since they feature different enviroments, enemies, main villians, and storylines not directly tied into the main Mario universe. As for Yoshi, his games are made to be a prequel to the Mario franchise, and as such, they feature the same characters, enemies, and main villians that you would see in a mainline Mario game. The only mainline crossover I could think of between Mario and DK was New Donk City, and that was moreso for tha arcade DK than DKC, and I don't even remember the last time Wario appeared in a mainline Mario game. That's why majority of the crossovers with Mario, DK, and Wario are spinoffs.

All his games feature new environments whether it be in regards to aesthetic or just plain new environments. Rarely any of them even get into the sports or kart games (which the Donkey Kong Country games do I might add)

Not all of his games are prequels (Topsy-Turvy) and Woolly World and Crafted World may not even take place in the same universe...

Yoshi has plenty of original elements and enemies, but everyone focuses on the similar stuff and it's incredibly unfair...

I hate this double standard.

 

[Alternis]

All I'm going to say on the matter of Yoshi and Mario is as follows.

The two series are linked, to be sure. Mario at least is a constant presence, though he is a baby and passive in the story. Baby Bowser is essentially Bowser Jr. Kamek technically appears in the New Super Mario Bros series (at least I think it's that same character). Koopas are enemies in both series (Edit: I've been corrected; boos, bullet bills, piranha plants, lakitus, and chomps also appear). But it really stops there. Yoshi has a unique identity from Mario games. Mechanically and visually, they're not that similar. All the enemies in Yoshi games, barring the aforementioned enemies, are unique to the Yoshi series.

TLDR, the two series are linked by canon, but they have distinct identities.

Also, the two most recent Yoshi games, Wooly World and Crafted World, are pretty blatantly Yoshi games. Only an ignorant onlooker would ever confuse them for a Mario title.

 

[Knight Dude]

Inb4 is for Brawlhalla

Can't wait for Banjo vs Hellboy ft. Rayman from the Raving Rabbids series.

 

[Deleted member]

I'll be back soon enough! What's happening in June?

Here's the main jist of it. If none of these happen, I lose my Scott persona, delete my Scott meme folder and soul.

Due to how unpredictable Smash DLC can be, either of the following has to happen.

• Banjo & Kazooie @ E3 2019. Not in a Direct, nor in a future Direct. E3 or nothing.
• Heihachi @ EVO 2019. Straight up announcement and not another Smash Direct announcement.

These are seen as HEAVY long shots due to how very specific these bets are, so if at least one of these are right, I'm safe. Figured I'd make that rule to keep things fair with how insane the calls are.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

If you could make a game. A completely original game. What would it be? Do you go AAA or Indie? What company would you work with? What genre? What’s it about?

 

[Knight Dude]

All I'm going to say on the matter of Yoshi and Mario is as follows.

The two series are linked, to be sure. Mario at least is a constant presence, though he is a baby and passive in the story. Baby Bowser is essentially Bowser Jr. Kamek technically appears in the New Super Mario Bros series (at least I think it's that same character). Koopas are enemies in both series. But it really stops there. Yoshi has a unique identity from Mario games. Mechanically and visually, they're not that similar. All the enemies in Yoshi games, barring the Koopas, are unique to the Yoshi series.

TLDR, the two series are linked by canon, but they have distinct identities.

There's enough to make it distinct, but there's also Bullet Bills, Boos, Chain Chomps, Piranha Plants and I think Lakitus too. Not to mention Shy Guys, but those are more associated with Yoshi due to them showing up a hell of a lot more in Yoshi games than in Mario.

 

[Deleted member]

If you could make a game. A completely original game. What would it be? Do you go AAA or Indie? What company would you work with? What genre? What’s it about?

A game where Just Cause Guy gets into Smash.


Plot Twist: Abe from Oddworld is a sleeper DLC pick

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Here's the main jist of it. If none of these happen, I lose my Scott persona, delete my Scott meme folder and soul.

Should've crossed your fingers on that, dude.

I'll miss the Scott persona.