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[Ramen Tengoku]

Err...Aren't we supposed to avoid this kind of talk? It doesn't seem like it'll do anything but start problems...

Perhaps it would be best to move on to a different topic?

Here's why caramel is pronounced "CARE-a-mel" and not "CAR-mul"

 

[KMDP]

I'm not trying to defend any of the types of people you mentioned, but I think evil is a very strong word and controversial word that should not be applied to people based on political views alone. I don't think anyone is purely evil. I know that's a very controversial statement I'm making, but there are very few people who I would classify as evil.

There's basically no person in the world who is purely, 100% Evil.

Everyone has "Redeeming" qualities, the question is whether those positive qualities outweigh the negative ones (hint: crimes are crimes).

It's easy to view the world as black and white/good and evil, what's not easy is recognising that "evil" people are human too.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

i have amassed ten thousand posts

my soul is now trapped on this hellsite
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y'all gonna have to live with these ****posts forever now

Interesting debate question that could connect to this discussion, “Is it possible or moral to like and support the work of an artist if that particular artist/creator has views that are negative or detrimental to society?”

I mean, not even Dragon Quest guy but stuff like Michael Jackson. I like Michael Jackson’s music, and yes the man is dead, but just because I like his music does that mean I support child molestation or marriage? Of course not.

I feel like society regrows out the baby with the bath water. I don’t know if that is a result of outrage culture, or what. Then again, I really do feel that there are plenty of people out there who just want to be mad at something. That isn’t to say that there aren’t real things to be outraged about, but outrage without solution is just outrage and unhappiness.

Granted, i’m also if the opinion that there are plenty of people on social media who like to tweet things to get likes, like virtue signaling, and then just complain about real issues without presenting actual solutions.

Sorry for the rant, but frankly I think this whole “If you do X then you’re Y” nonsense needs to stop if we ever want to move forward in society.

There are situations in which, yes, a person doing specific things is a not so good thing. But with the big picture, society needs to accept that not all of our leaders are going to be perfect and that there are far bigger problems to deal with. We shouldn’t be shunning people who would be our allies just because they may have done something we disagree with.

This is further away from the original point though. Dragon Quest Guy, from what i’ve been told, is a doodoo head.

The duality of man.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I never wanna hear you say I want it that way

TELL ME WHY ain't nothin' but a heartache TELL ME WHY

 

[Aurane]

Is the topic of the thread "Yikes" today? ****?

 

[KMDP]

Here's why caramel is pronounced "CARE-eh mel" and not "CAR-mul":

"CARE-eh mel"!? I'll have your tongue, you savage!

It's "Cah-ra-mel".

 

[SnakeFighter64]

It’s very, very bad, don’t get me wrong, but I’d consider evil quite a strong word that would be used for like, someone like Hitler, or something.

Also we aren’t supposed to be talking about politics. Can we please get a mod on this? Cyn ?

Maybe if we called them what they truly are then they'd take a look back and realize what they're doing and stop.

Honestly, that rule needs to go. I'm sick of being silenced on issues that matter to me, ones that relate to Smash be they this DQ composer or Atlus's crap with the Persona series, because it's "political". It's a shut down term that stops conversations from being had and prevents change from being made. Either big change or small change.

Not using this to defend any of the crap I've said on here in the past. That stuff is ridiculous and I wish I could take it back. I just don't want to be silenced on important issues.

 

[Wyoming]

Here's why Phoenix Wright is in Smash:

tl;dr: I love the games and want him in, but made an effort to look factual based on precedence that constantly changes.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Please enjoy this work of art in the middle of this heated debate:

 

[PsySmasher]

Is the topic of the thread "Yikes" today? ****?

That's the topic every day.

At least it's somewhat related to Smash now.

 

[Deleted member]

Please enjoy this work of art in the middle of this heated debate:
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today's really been a ride huh

 

[Wyoming]

We can also discuss how PBG disappears off the face of the planet only to release a new video on Goodwill Games every 5 months.

 

[Deleted member]

oh yeah uh the topic at hand

you can enjoy good **** made by bad people

granted if you don't want to support the bad person then you can not buy the good ****. simple. it's a personal choice though, and imo there's no right/wrong here

for erdrick, though, i kinda feel like it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you choose to do so. i mean you're buying his pack for the character and stage mainly, and i doubt that all of the people (sakurai included) who worked on them are evil douchebags like sugiyama. supporting them is also pretty important and most of your seven bucks are gonna go to them anyways.


believe me, if i could choose to only pay for the character and stage, i would, but i can't, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[TheBeastHimself]

There's basically no person in the world who is purely, 100% Evil.

Everyone has "Redeeming" qualities, the question is whether those positive qualities outweigh the negative ones (hint: crimes are crimes).

It's easy to view the world as black and white/good and evil, what's not easy is recognising that "evil" people are human too.

I think a lot of people forget this. There could be a million and one reasons why people have the opinions and viewpoints they do, and we will never be able to connect with these types of people and understand them if we keep pushing them away. We can't forget that at the end of the day, everyone is human. Like I said earlier, I'm not trying to defend homophobes, transphobes, or any other hateful group, but there's always a reason people act the way they do. Nobody is born and decides "hey I want to be an evil prick". I feel like if we try our hardest to understand "bad" people (I use quotations because that's quite subjective), we'd be one step closer to finding common ground and maybe even a type of peace. I don't know, that's just me.

 

[KMDP]

Please enjoy this work of art in the middle of this heated debate:
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Didn't you know? "Yare Yare Daze" is Japanese for "I hate Mondays".

 

[SnakeFighter64]

I think a lot of people forget this. There could be a million and one reasons why people have the opinions and viewpoints they do, and we will never be able to connect with these types of people and understand them if we keep pushing them away. We can't forget that at the end of the day, everyone is human. Like I said earlier, I'm not trying to defend homophobes, transphobes, or any other hateful group, but there's always a reason people act the way they do. Nobody is born and decides "hey I want to be an evil prick". I feel like if we try our hardest to understand "bad" people (I use quotations because that's quite subjective), we'd be one step closer to finding common ground and maybe even a type of peace. I don't know, that's just me.

Unless peace means them knocking it the **** off and stop harassing and belittling anyone not straight and white then I don't think that's gonna happen.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

This is further away from the original point though. Dragon Quest Guy, from what i’ve been told, is a doodoo head

yeah so has everyone and their dog because people wont shut up about it whenever A DQ topic happens

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Honestly people have some pretty screwed up opinions sometimes, but unless it’s something extreme, I’m not going to call that person evil for one opinion they have.

Honestly, that rule needs to go. I'm sick of being silenced on issues that matter to me,

That’s why the debate thread exists.

 

[Gentlepanda]

oh yeah uh the topic at hand

you can enjoy good **** made by bad people

granted if you don't want to support the bad person then you can not buy the good ****. simple. it's a personal choice though, and imo there's no right/wrong here

for erdrick, though, i kinda feel like it's throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you choose to do so. i mean you're buying his pack for the character and stage mainly, and i doubt that all of the people (sakurai included) who worked on them are evil douchebags like sugiyama. supporting them is also pretty important and most of your seven bucks are gonna go to them anyways.


believe me, if i could choose to only pay for the character and stage, i would, but i can't, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

imagine worrying about the music for a square enix character

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Here's why caramel is pronounced "CARE-a-mel" and not "CAR-mul"

its pronounced "Yum, cavitys"

 

[Deleted member]

The duality of man.

balanced perfectly

as some things should be

 

[Cyn]

Guys, lets not get on the subject of a person's world views and how we should label them. You may, without knowing it, be pointing at someone on this thread who is respectful enough not to vent or make public their controversial views on certain subjects. We are all here to have a good time and have some good conversation. We don't need to bring in negativity.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

imagine worrying about the music for a square enix character

*scoffs* This would've never happened with Geno. smh...

 

[KMDP]

imagine worrying about the music for a square enix character

Cloud: *manly tears*

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly though, I think that one of the aspects that help DQ is that even if you have a talented dip**** like Sugiyama making the music, Horii who is the guy in charge seems to be a relatively nice guy.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

"CARE-eh mel"!? I'll have your tongue, you savage!

It's "Cah-ra-mel".

You're British, I'll let it slide

The post was mostly for the Americans in the thread

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Unless peace means them knocking it the **** off and stop harassing and belittling anyone not straight and white then I don't think that's gonna happen.

But at the same time, don’t you think that belittling and mocking these people in return is counterproductive? Surely isn’t there some other, better way to reach these people?

I’m not defending them or anything, but nobody wants to be called evil.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Guys, lets not get on the subject of a person's world views and how we should label them. You may, without knowing it, be pointing at someone on this thread who is respectful enough not to vent or make public their controversial views on certain subjects. We are all here to have a good time and have some good conversation. We don't need to bring in negativity.

God has spoken.
All jokes aside, thank you. Like, a lot.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Guys, lets not get on the subject of a person's world views and how we should label them. You may, without knowing it, be pointing at someone on this thread who is respectful enough not to vent or make public their controversial views on certain subjects. We are all here to have a good time and have some good conversation. We don't need to bring in negativity.

I respect this, and I apologize if anything I said has been offensive towards anyone, that was not my intentions.

 

[Gentlepanda]

You're British, I'll let it slide

The post was mostly for the Americans in the threads

brit here, just stopping by to confirm that 'care-eh-mel' is an abomination of pronunciation and you should all feel bad

 

[KMDP]

Nobody wants to be called evil.

Except Cyn .

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

At work. Taking drawing requests. No promises.

Draw Ness and Lucas listening in on each other's thoughts and discovering that their feelings are mutual

 

[Deleted member]

brit here, just stopping by to confirm that 'care-eh-mel' is an abomination of pronunciation and you should all feel bad

huh wow i wonder why britain of all countries is going through brexit

interesting

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Draw Ness and Lucas listening in on each other's thoughts and discovering that their feelings are mutual

What about Ninten?

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

So, to lighten up the mood, who is up for an arena? I’ll host!

 

[Noipoi]

Thank you for having a yikes tier discussion while I’m absent

 

[TheBeastHimself]

So, to lighten up the mood, who is up for an arena? I’ll host!

Yes please, send me the deets my friend!

 

[Deleted member]

Here's why caramel is pronounced "CARE-a-mel" and not "CAR-mul"

who in the actual **** pronounces it CAR-MUL

 

[praline]

i only really remeber Victor because I liked him and his "Victoria? Victoria!!" cry was super good. Victoria tho, I forgot about almost immediately becayse, jesus, she was annoying

I did feel a little bad for her that she was stuck as a sick child.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Thank you for having a yikes tier discussion while I’m absent

Reminded me of this image.