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[Deleted member]

But then you end up with racists, homophobes, transphobes, holocaust deniers, climate change deniers, and flat-earthers in positions of power and they just keep ****ing everything up. This behavior isn't politics. It's just being evil. And we can't give evil people a pass for any reason. Letting them work and continue on in life unpunished it morally wrong and a slap in the face to all of the victims their actions and beliefs created.

Your solution to Sugiyama being in Smash Bros makes no sense.

1. How are we going to filter out people with "bad political views?" You should know that this is an impossible feat because humans can lie, manipulate, and do other good things beyond their political views. We have historically been known to work around the system. Why do you think politicians can even be successful?
2. How do we get rid of racism, homophobes, and transphobes? You really can't. This is not an issue that can be solved in a day, as it clearly still exists in America despite Americans moving away from some of the **** in the past. Our collective human psychology is literally designed to take shortcuts and generalize things, which include people. I don't mean to be personal, but you have admitted to misandry and you think you have a solution to the complex social, political, and cultural topics like racism? It does not start with kicking Sugiyama out of the business.
3. We need people for jobs regardless of their views. I've already discussed this. Our societies cannot function unless our population work together to help bring it stability. If we just cut out about a third of the labor force, we'd have depression and stagnation, which would **** everyone over.
4. If we isolate a group of people from society because of their views, they'll just organize. Why do you think we have interest groups in America? Look at Smashboards. We have support threads for people who want to discuss their favorite characters. There are literally movements on here who's goals are to revive dead franchises Super Mario RPG characters and Golden Sun. If people do that over video games, imagine them doing that for their political opinions, because they've historically have.

I like your ideals but you're not bringing something that we haven't already seen.

E: BRB. I need to eat lunch... at 4:48 PM. **** me.

 

[Gentlepanda]

huh wow i wonder why britain of all countries is going through brexit

interesting

we're simply too cultured for europe

distant sounds of football hooligans

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Can you guys send me videos on how to get better at Smash Bros Ultimate?

I want to brush up on my skills (I’m incredibly rusty) before Joker comes out so I can body y’all with him.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

who in the actual **** pronounces it CAR-MUL

You'd be surprised

 

[Deleted member]

brit here, just stopping by to confirm that 'care-eh-mel' is an abomination of pronunciation and you should all feel bad

Who the **** pronounces it that way? I've only ever heard it as 'car-mull'. 'Care-eh-mel' has too many syllables and leans in too hard on the enunciation.

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?

Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

who in the actual **** pronounces it CAR-MUL

Me, but I stoopid.

 

[KMDP]

I respect this, and I apologize if anything I said has been offensive towards anyone, that was not my intentions.

My intention has never been to offend either. Sometimes it just happens.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Maybe if we called them what they truly are then they'd take a look back and realize what they're doing and stop.

Honestly, that rule needs to go. I'm sick of being silenced on issues that matter to me, ones that relate to Smash be they this DQ composer or Atlus's crap with the Persona series, because it's "political". It's a shut down term that stops conversations from being had and prevents change from being made. Either big change or small change.

Not using this to defend any of the crap I've said on here in the past. That stuff is ridiculous and I wish I could take it back. I just don't want to be silenced on important issues.

While I see where you’re coming from with this, the one thing I will say is that I, a straight white male, kinda feel as if the constant throwing around of the terms you mentioned makes people angry. Even if the things they say are racist, sexist, or transphobic...consider that that’s what they know. That’s, mainly, how they were raised.

I have been raised to respect others and try to be kind to others when possible. I get angry when I see ignorant **** out there. Throughout my lovely 26 years on this planet, there are at least 2 realities I can speak to:

1) There will always, always, be people who completely suck Major ass. The only solution to this would be a society similar to Fahrenheit 451 or 1984, and neither of those are all that great.

2) As individuals, we have no power over how other people act. We can only determine how we react to the actions of others.

Now, imagine a person who was raised a certain way, and was taught by their parents that gay marriage isn’t ok. Perhaps they were taught that men do the work while women stay home. This is a part of their upbringing, that people they love taught them.

Then, one day, they go on social media and get attacked by some random person who tells them they’re a bad person for doing certain things that they have believed to be true their entire life.

This isn’t to defend racist, homophobic, or sexist behavior. It’s to give it context. Nobody reacts well when a stranger yells at them, but we need to remember that humans still have the ability to learn kindness and open heartedness. It’s tough to get past certain aspects, but look at it this way.

I teach a primarily black population in the city of Buffalo. There are cultural things I have learned simply through talking to and learning about my students. They’re very bright and mostly hard working. There are still kids in that population (and every population for that matter) that have these ideas that being gay is bad, or that the wife stays in the house.

However, they’re 15,16, 17 years old. To some people, they would tell these kids they’re terrible people. Yes, those aren’t the most inclusive thoughts. But we can learn, and that should be cause for optimism.

 

[Gentlepanda]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?
View attachment 205329
Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

caught on tape

 

[PsySmasher]

Alright, anyone wanna play some Smash now?

Figured we might as well play the game we're all "speculating" on right now.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

What about Ninten?

Look at his eyes

He only has eyes for Pac-Man

 

[Iridium]

Can you guys send me videos on how to get better at Smash Bros Ultimate?

I want to brush up on my skills (I’m incredibly rusty) before Joker comes out so I can body y’all with him.

You could watch Izaw's guides on YouTube. He actually has quite a few for specific characters, in addition to tips for various player skills.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?
View attachment 205329
Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

Ahhh... so that's how you found me...

I was wondering why you randomly subscribed to me.

I don't think I've ever posted a link to my channel, here

Thanks, btw

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Look at his eyes

He only has eyes for Pac-Man

Yoooooo I ship Ninten and Pac-Man now

 

[Gentlepanda]

Alright, anyone wanna play some Smash now?

Figured we might as well play the game we're all "speculating" on right now.

everyone knows you don't actually play smash, you just speculate endlessly on it to the point you forget all about the game itself

it's basically a video game character popularity **** measuring contest

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

It’s that time of day fellas.
TheBeastHimself
ID: MMP0S
Password: 2019

Alright, anyone wanna play some Smash now?

Figured we might as well play the game we're all "speculating" on right now.

Already in it.

 

[KMDP]

huh wow i wonder why britain of all countries is going through brexit

interesting

I could try to give you a serious answer but this thread isn't the place for it and even British people are hazy on the details at this point.

At this point, the general public of Britain are at a point of "LEAVE OR STAY, JUST LET IT ****ING END ALREADY!"

 

[Deleted member]

Ahhh... so that's how you found me...

I was wondering why you randomly subscribed to me.

I don't think I've ever posted a link to my channel, here

Thanks, btw

Always welcome Ramen!

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?
View attachment 205329
Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

the ramen

it spreads

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?
View attachment 205329
Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

Our boy Ramen Tengoku representing.

 

[Gentlepanda]

I could try to give you a serious answer but this thread isn't the place for it and even British people are hazy on the details at this point.

At this point, the general public of Britain are at a point of "LEAVE OR STAY, JUST LET IT ****ING END ALREADY!"

i'm slowly becoming convinced that brexit will never actually happen and that it's just going to be extended forever until may eventually keels over

 

[Pyra]

Yo is it real ignore admins and talk about my bad world views time?

Hottest take known to man:
Some people are human beings
Other people are also human beings

Take that, lizards
**** you

 

[Deleted member]

i'm slowly becoming convinced that brexit will never actually happen and that it's just going to be extended forever until may eventually keels over

maybe this is all an elaborate plan to delay the vote for so long that everybody eventually forgets about it

 

[Gentlepanda]

maybe this is all an elaborate plan to delay the vote for so long that everybody eventually forgets about it

bold of you to assume this isn't an actual running theory

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Anyone else here cool with Conker the Squirrel joining Smash (after Banjo, if that helps)

 

[KMDP]

i'm slowly becoming convinced that brexit will never actually happen and that it's just going to be extended forever until may eventually keels over

The Remainer PMs will continue spinning their wheels as long as they are able.

 

[Deleted member]

yare yare

 

[Deleted member]

TELL ME WHY ain't nothin' but a heartache TELL ME WHY

Real talk, though. Who here actually unironically enjoy the Backstreet Boys.

E: In which I use NSYNC as a reference for the Backstreet Boys. LOL

 

[praline]

Yo is it real ignore admins and talk about my bad world views time?

Hottest take known to man:
Some people are human beings
Other people are also human beings

Take that, lizards
**** you

Woah dude no need for the low blow.

 

[Gentlepanda]

dragon quest plot synopses like

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Yo is it real ignore admins and talk about my bad world views time?

Hottest take known to man:
Some people are human beings
Other people are also human beings

Take that, lizards
**** you

>the administration and moderation teams would like to know your location

Why do y’all think I never became a mod? I’m just saying that osby hasn’t been osby since he became a mod. Why is that?

Because he’s one of the lizard people

RIP osby I miss you buddy.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

But at the same time, don’t you think that belittling and mocking these people in return is counterproductive? Surely isn’t there some other, better way to reach these people?

I’m not defending them or anything, but nobody wants to be called evil.

That opinion is evil. It's toxic. It does nothing but hurt people. I can understand people not wanting to be called evil, but if that's the case than they should stop having evil opinions.

Your solution to Sugiyama being in Smash Bros makes no sense.

1. How are we going to filter out people with "bad political views?" You should know that this is an impossible feat because humans can lie, manipulate, and do other good things beyond their political views. Why do you think politicians can even be successful?
2. How do we get rid of racism, homophobes, and transphobes? You really can't. This is not an issue that can be solved in a day, as it clearly still exists in America despite Americans moving away from some of the **** in the past. Our collective human psychology is literally designed to take shortcuts and generalize things, which include people. I don't mean to be personal, but you have admitted to misandry and you think you have a solution to the complex social, political, and cultural topics like racism? It does not start with kicking Sugiyama out of the business.
3. We need people for jobs regardless of their views. I've already discussed this. Our societies cannot function unless our population work together to help bring it stability. If we just cut out about a third of the labor force, we'd have depression and stagnation, which would **** everyone over.
4. If we isolate a group of people from society because of their views, they'll just organize. Why do you think we have interest groups in America? Look at Smashboards. We have support threads for people who want to discuss their favorite characters. There are literally movements on here who's goals are to revive dead franchises Super Mario RPG characters and Golden Sun. If people do that over video games, imagine them doing that for their political opinions, because they've historically have.

I like your ideals but you're not bringing something that we haven't already seen.

E: BRB. I need to eat lunch... at 4:48 PM. **** me.

It's not "politics". That's why I call them evil. It's not okay to hold and enforce opinions that hurt people, for any reason. And we need to enforce that. Not saying that these issues can be fixed over night, but at the very least we can stop ignoring them because they're "political"

While I see where you’re coming from with this, the one thing I will say is that I, a straight white make, kinda feel as if the constant throwing around of the terms you mentioned makes people angry. Even if the things they say are racist, sexist, or transphobic...consider that that’s what they know. That’s, mainly, how they were raised.

I have been raised to respect others and try to be kind to others when possible. I get angry when I see ignorant **** out there. Throughout my lovely 26 years on this planet, there are at least 2 realities I can speak to:

1) There will always, always, be people who completely suck Major ***. The only solution to this would be a society similar to Fahrenheit 451 or 1984, and neither of those are all that great.

2) As individuals, we have no power over how other people act. We can only determine who we react to the actions of others.

Now, imagine a person who was raised a certain way, and was taught by their parents that gay marriage isn’t ok. Perhaps they were taught that men do the work while women stay home. This is a part of their upbringing, that people they love taught them.

Then, one day, they go on social media and get attacked by some random person who tells them they’re a bad person for doing certain things that they have believed to be true their entire life.

This isn’t to defend racist, homophobic, or sexist behavior. It’s to give it context. Nobody reacts well when a stranger yells at them, but we need to remember that humans still have the ability to learn kindness and open heartedness. It’s tough to get past certain aspects, but look at it this way.

I teach a primarily black population in the city of Buffalo. There are cultural things I have learned simply through talking to and learning about my students. They’re very bright and mostly hard working. There are still kids in that population (and every population for that matter) that have these ideas that being gay is bad, or that the wife stays in the house.

However, they’re 15,16, 17 years old. To some people, they would tell these kids they’re terrible people. Yes, those aren’t the most inclusive thoughts. But we can learn, and that should be cause for optimism.

How are they going to learn if they aren't told that those opinions are bad. If they face no consequences for it. If they aren't made to see how they're hurting people.

 

[KMDP]

Anyone else here cool with Conker the Squirrel joining Smash (after Banjo, if that helps)

I'd be cool with Conker.

Conker's Bad Fur Day is actually one of the two 3D Rare games I've ever played (the other is Star Fox Adventures, which is the only Star Fox game I've played).

I never finished either (in the case of Conker it's because something else came up, and in the case of Star Fox it was because I got stuck, twice, in the same place).

 

[praline]

Real talk, though. Who here actually unironically enjoy the Backstreet Boys.

Backstreet Boys are literally my favourite.

Why you gotta post Nsync though...

 

[Deleted member]

Backstreet Boys are literally my favourite.

Why you gotta post Nsync though...

I noticed that immediately after posting and was like, "Wait. That's NSYNC?!"

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

That opinion is evil. It's toxic. It does nothing but hurt people. I can understand people not wanting to be called evil, but if that's the case than they should stop having evil opinions.

It's not "politics". That's why I call them evil. It's not okay to hold and enforce opinions that hurt people, for any reason. And we need to enforce that. Not saying that these issues can be fixed over night, but at the very least we can stop ignoring them because they're "political"

How are they going to learn if they aren't told that those opinions are bad. If they face no consequences for it. If they aren't made to see how they're hurting people.

Did you not listen to a single thing Cyndane said.

 

[Noipoi]

Okay, I have to share this:
I was browsing some videos to share at the Erdrick thread, and while looking at the comments of one about why Erdrick could be in Smash... guess who I found?
View attachment 205329
Needless to say, I subscribed to his channel the second I found that comment.

Ramen Tengoku

@ShotoStar wants to know your location

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

That opinion is evil. It's toxic. It does nothing but hurt people. I can understand people not wanting to be called evil, but if that's the case than they should stop having evil opinions.

It's not "politics". That's why I call them evil. It's not okay to hold and enforce opinions that hurt people, for any reason. And we need to enforce that. Not saying that these issues can be fixed over night, but at the very least we can stop ignoring them because they're "political"

How are they going to learn if they aren't told that those opinions are bad. If they face no consequences for it. If they aren't made to see how they're hurting people.

But surely there are better ways to reach people with these views rather than saying “you’re an evil, hateful person with horrible views” or something along those lines. Doing so only forces them to shrink further into these harmful ideologies.

 

[Pyra]

Did you not listen to a single thing Cyndane said.

Shh. Report it. It’s at a point where responding isn’t adding to the conversation.