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[Zinith]

Pakky Weren't you making that girl Kremlin from Barrel Blast as well?

 

[Pakky]

Wait, 6%? What the hell was it going to look like at 100?!

Well, It will be a finished concept.

I'm a little shocked by this reaction honestly, lol.

Pakky Weren't you making that girl Kremlin from Barrel Blast as well?

Yep!

Spoiler: Kalypso 25%

 

[Will]

Pakky Weren't you making that girl Kremlin from Barrel Blast as well?

dude stop you're scarin me

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So how about we change the topic. FighterZ looks dope right?

 

[Deleted member]

Well, It will be a finished concept.

I'm a little shocked by this reaction honestly, lol.

No offense dude, but she looks she can break a bicycle with her entire ass. Why man? Why?

 

[Deleted member]

Well, It will be a finished concept.

I'm a little shocked by this reaction honestly, lol.

Well, to be fair, certain physical features were greatly exaggerated. .
You’re damn talented, but. . You really need to town her down. .

 

[Will]

Pakky Dude, why did you go pretty tame on the Kroc girl but went full balloon mode on Tiny?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Federation Force at least that’s the same exact genre as the rest of Metroid. You can’t compare them. And it’s not like Metroid didn’t have Hunters and Pinball as spin off games earlier. It was really only absent on N64, and on the Wii U but made big comeback regardless.

DKC didn’t have its big come back since Donkey Kong Country Returns! And before that, the only games that really addressed its lore and established franchise elements was DK King of Swing, Jungle Climber and Barrel Blast. These sort of games don’t even get released anymore because PAON is gone from Nintendo.

It just doesn’t make sense DKC is neglected so badly. Mario VS DK also has way more Mario elements in its gameplay, and up until its latest 3DS game it didn’t even have any DKC character outside of DK, who’s not even playable and acted way more out of character than Samus did in a couple of scenes in Other M. Also, Other M was great. And Samus Returns 3DS was still mostly a new game to many.

So yes I have my reasons to be upset about Retro not making a new DKC game. There literally won’t be another studio that will make a new game, while there’s plenty of studios, and even Nintendo themselves who can handle Metroid.

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Retro made the Prime games, so why should they be disallowed to make another?

If you're implying DKC is Retro's prime child, you couldn't be more wrong. It's more of a middle child.

What the **** is the point you're trying to make? I only brought up FF because you brought it up, which means the DK spinoffs and subseries must count too. A co-operative multiplayer game when Metroid is almost exclusively about singleplayer isn't really the same. My point is that you're acting like DKC is all that matters and when you ACTUALLY LOOK at what else was released that you're coming across as whiney because your favourite isn't getting the attention you think it should. Besides, one could easily argue DKC is a spinoff as the most well-known incarnation of Donkey Kong is the arcade game

Most well known ? Then why has Donkey Kong ALWAYS been represented as DKC Donkey Kong in Smash?

Whatever point you tried to made failed with that. I can’t take you serious about this anymore. A Metroid spin off shouldn’t count because it’s a multiplayer, but Mario VS Donkey Kong TOTALLY COUNTS of course even if DK isn’t even playable, there’s no DKC elements, and DK is the antagonist.

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

Geez, mate. I don't dislike DKC, but if you ask me whether I prefer Metroid dead in the water or DKC to be dead in the water I prefer DKC to take a back seat while Metroid shines.

DKC has a lot of overlap with other Nintendo series, Nintendo isn't in dire needs of more platformers right now. Metroid Prime, however, is one of Nintendo more unique games and not a lot of games are like it.

Donkey Kong series is sort of it a weird position of being pretty good sales wise but not crazy great like Mario or Pokemon to justify making a spin off based off of DK instead of just making another Mario kart. But it isn't like Donkey Kong is dead in the water, it has good sales so it will get another game sooner or later.

I'm sorry, even if I like Donkey Kong Country more the Metroid, I have to fault you here.

You say that plenty of studios and Nintendo themselves could handle Metroid, that also holds true for Donkey Kong. There is no reason that Nintendo couldn't have another company or themselves make a platformer (especially when Nintendo knows well how to make platformers) the same holds true for Metroid (though, to be honest, Western companies like Retro are probably better choices then Japanese ones for Metroid Prime since Shooters aren't as popular in the East as in the West).

There's also franchise fatigue you have to worry about. If Retro was stuck only making Donkey Kong titles, they would inevitably get franchise fatigue and their games would suffer for it, taking a break is good for a company and its series. Its likely Retro themselves wanted to move onto something other then Donkey Kong for a moment themselves (rumor had it that they were developing Star Fox Grand Prix for example).

Retro never even said they were making a Donkey Kong game, so whatever they would have been making instead of Metroid Prime 4 might not have even been Donkey Kong related so you literally have no reason to be mad that they are developing Metroid Prime 4 instead.


Mostly because that was the design of Donkey Kong at the time and has been DK's default design since DKC, even appearing in Mario spin-offs such as Mario Kart & Mario Party.

DKC isn't being 'neglected', it had a game released in the past 5 years, its FINE, it doesn't need a release every year or every two years, its not dead, its not hibernating, its perfectly fine and will get a new game when its time for one. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets another new game before the end of the Switch's lifespan. I mean, the gap between Donkey Kong Country Returns and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze was 4 years and I know its been 5 years since its release, but it also had its upgraded port to tide over DK fans and keep the series relevant.

Jesus you aren't even listening. Look at every time Donkey Kong has gotten referenced in movies and TV shows. I think you'll find there are significantly more references to the arcade than DKC

My point is that you were counting spinoffs for Metroid so it's only fair to count spinoffs for DK too, and by doing that, Donkey Kong is significantly larger with more frequent releases than you're letting on, meaning you're being dishonest as ****. Especially with this. Mario VS DK doesn't count because you don't play as DK and he's the antagonist? Despite DK being an antagonist in the arcade game? And the fact that Samus is the final boss and not playable at all in FF? Do you even know what you're talking about?

I think a port to a significantly more successful system to the point the game actually sold very well isn't being neglected. You DO know game development literally takes years right?
Not even, I'm arguing that Donkey Kong isn't oppressed

Ah this topic is living once more

so why are we fighting about who's neglected more again?
what ended up starting this?

Me questioning Diddy Kong not wanting Retro to make MP4, finding it disappointing in a lack of Donkey Kong started all this...then DK got triggered and I ended my part of the argument very easily...until others continue to rip the topic apart

SHE AIN'T THAT THICC, DAWG

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YOU MADE HER A ****ING PORNSTAR

Atleast she doesn’t have lots of that stuff

I was gonna say Tiny Kardashian.

Aw Yeah to that name

 

[Pakky]

Well, to be fair, certain physical features were greatly exaggerated. .
You’re damn talented, but. .

Thank.

I'm shocked because well is in a Nintendo game and is basically a Nintendo franchise. So I thought tolerances would be a little higher.

Not even offended just, shocked.

 

[Will]

Atleast she doesn’t have lots of that stuff

Spoiler: slightly untopic worthy

dude i had to sit through waves of dk porn just to ****ing find the actual dk game model rip

 

[ZephyrZ]

Are people really still angry at Let's Go?

People are still disappointed by it at the very least.

I thought it was okay but just that...okay. But it's so lacking content compared to previous games its ridiculous.

 

[Zinith]

Pakky Dude, why did you go pretty tame on the Kroc girl but went full balloon mode on Tiny?

Because I believe he started the Kalypso one first, so the clothes are added.

 

[MainJPW]

So how about we change the topic. FighterZ looks dope right?

Videl/Great Saiyaman duo looks clean af.

 

[Will]

Because I believe he started the Kalypso one first, so the clothes are added.

dude even with clothes she would look too much

 

[Pakky]

Pakky Dude, why did you go pretty tame on the Kroc girl but went full balloon mode on Tiny?

So There's 25% done and then there's 6% done.

Like, I'm not surer what to tell you.

 

[Deleted member]

Thank.

I'm shocked because well is in a Nintendo game and is basically a Nintendo franchise. So I thought tolerances would be a little higher.

Not even offended just, shocked.

You’re welcome, but. .

No 1.
Her butt could block out the sun. Big no-no.

No 2.
She was naked.

 

[DevaAshera]

Thank.

I'm shocked because well is in a Nintendo game and is basically a Nintendo franchise. So I thought tolerances would be a little higher.

Not even offended just, shocked.

I'm a perv, so I don't mind..but that Tiny's still a lot thiccer then even Bayonetta is. That body shape tends to be used in more lewd artwork..so its more associated with NSFW then SFW in regards to proportions.

 

[RyuhoFox]

As a Pokemaniac, lemme tell you, constant releases is both a blessing and a curse. Oh boy the same game again but with the word "Ultra" in front of it, how exciting! Or how about Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, which were clearly rushed out to pad things out while we wait for Pokemon 2019? Yeah there's always something to play but there's also a lot of disappointment. Now the entire fanbase is acting super cynical because those lost two pairs of games have left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

It's actually kind of nice when a series only has one or two major releases a console generation. When as Smash or 3D Zelda game releases, it's a huge, special deal. I wouldn't mind DKC being the same way. One or two every console generation, but with a ton of effort and polish put into them.

I still don't quite get the hatred that the Ultra games specifically get. Expanded versions have been quite a common thing for the series and people were upset when gen 6 DIDNT get one. Aside from the generally similar amount of changes it's like the only expanded in the series that I know of that added actual new monsters to it. Not just new forms or something but brand new species.

It's just weird to me how things 180'd so quickly for something that is not only quite common and expected in the series but generally wanted.

On the topic of Tiny Kong in this thread while her more grown up look is actually fairly attractive she is nowhere near that thicc. lol. I think a slightly exaggerated chest and butt could be done in a SFW way but not to that degree imo.

 

[Will]

tiny kong is dixie's younger sister btw

so why tf is dixie still lookin like that, is there something goin on with dixie's dad? do we need to bring maury?

 

[Pakky]

You’re welcome, but. .

No 1.
Her butt could block out the sun. Big no-no.

No 2.
She was naked.

Granted, however, it is 6% done at the moment. Also are naked.

tiny kong is dixie's younger sister btw

so why tf is dixie still lookin like that, is there something goin on with dixie's dad? do we need to bring maury?

You can take that up with Nintendo, lol.

I mean its not a big deal I'll just shave it down.

 

[Will]

Also are naked.

All of the female Kongs have clothes. But even with clothes it would probably look off.

 

[DevaAshera]

tiny kong is dixie's younger sister btw

so why tf is dixie still lookin like that, is there something goin on with dixie's dad? do we need to bring maury?

Who knows. According to Rare, it was Nintendo that redesigned Tiny Kong that way for Diddy Kong Racing DS..

 

[Deleted member]

Thank.

I'm shocked because well is in a Nintendo game and is basically a Nintendo franchise. So I thought tolerances would be a little higher.

Not even offended just, shocked.

Well,
1. You gave her a rear end that could server as a wrecking ball that could level The Empire State Building.
and
2. She had no clothes on. I'm going to cut you some slack and believe you didn't have time to add them yet, but if that's the case, you should've waited to post AFTER you gave her some clothes, bruh.

 

[Deleted member]

Granted, however, it is 6% done at the moment. Also are naked.


You can take that up with Nintendo, lol.

I mean its not a big deal I'll just shave it down.

Yes, Diddy and Donkey are naked, but the Tiny was waaay too full-on.
Even if she were wearing clothes, the proportions are much too exaggerated.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hey guys wh-

*Sees what's happening*

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

You’re welcome, but. .

No 1.
Her butt could block out the sun. Big no-no.

No 2.
She was naked.

She wasn't naked. She just lacked any details on her render. That's how all models are by default. Zero details.

Definitely not the right proportions, though. But modeling isn't easy if you're especially new at it, so I'd say people are overreacting a little.

 

[Deleted member]

She wasn't naked. She just lacked any details on her render. That's how all models are by default. Zero details.

Definitely not the right proportions, though. But modeling isn't easy if you're especially new at it, so I'd say people are overreacting a little.

Yes, she was only a bare model.
Regardless. .

His talent is certainly up there though.

 

[Will]

Definitely not the right proportions, though. But modeling isn't easy if you're especially new at it, so I'd say people are overreacting a little.

It wasn't the thick that got me.
It was the "it's how she looks tho" part, which is just... no.

 

[Deleted member]

She wasn't naked. She just lacked any details on her render. That's how all models are by default. Zero details.

Definitely not the right proportions, though. But modeling isn't easy if you're especially new at it, so I'd say people are overreacting a little.

Like I said, if that's the case, he should've worked on it more before posting it. I doubt he'd change some minds here, but at least he'd look better posting it finished instead of what he did post.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It wasn't the thick that got me.
It was the "it's how she looks tho" part, which is just... no.

No, I agree. Same point I'm making. It's incorrect. But that falls under proportions too.

 

[Pakky]

She wasn't naked. She just lacked any details on her render. That's how all models are by default. Zero details.

Definitely not the right proportions, though. But modeling isn't easy if you're especially new at it, so I'd say people are overreacting a little.

I did say it was 6% done. However, I do see the flaw in the design and will make edits.

Thank you all for your input.

 

[ZephyrZ]

I still don't quite get the hatred that the Ultra games specifically get. Expanded versions have been quite a common thing for the series and people were upset when gen 6 DIDNT get one. Aside from the generally similar amount of changes it's like the only expanded in the series that I know of that added actual new monsters to it. Not just new forms or something but brand new species.

It's just weird to me how things 180'd so quickly for something that is not only quite common and expected in the series but generally wanted.

On the topic of Tiny Kong in this thread while her more grown up look is actually fairly attractive she is nowhere near that thicc. lol. I think a slightly exaggerated chest and butt could be done in a SFW way but not to that degree imo.

Part of that is pobably because Black/White 2 set a much higher bar for expended versions, and because the advertising for the Ultra games made it seem like it was going to have much larger story differences then it actually did.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Why...

Just why...

Why the heck is this being an discussion to begin with!?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Like I said, if that's the case, he should've worked on it more before posting it. I doubt he'd change some minds here, but at least he'd look better posting it finished instead of what he did post.

Which would make his job even harder. None of those details are necessary for actually getting the model proportions right. That's the issue, not details, which come later. He posted it at the right time, really. Otherwise he'd have to restart a ton of work if he had any details. You put those rendering colors on after you have the actual body shape correct. Which wasn't correct. Yet.

I did say it was 6% done. However, I do see the flaw in the design and will make edits.

Thank you all for your input.

Exactly. No reason to add more than the basic model and get the proportions right. There's also no way you could get proper feedback if you did even more, as the details just need to come later after you have the body shape correct.

 

[MainJPW]

tiny kong is dixie's younger sister btw

so why tf is dixie still lookin like that, is there something goin on with dixie's dad? do we need to bring maury?

Everybody matures at different rates so I assume that applies to Kongs as well. We don’t even know how old they are...what even are Kongs?

 

[Deleted member]

So how about we change the topic. FighterZ looks dope right?

Videl looks great, Jiren I am not shocked at all to see. but You know I'm still rooting for my boy Roshi! Let's go Roshi!

 

[Will]

Everybody matures at different rates so I assume that applies to Kongs as well. We don’t even know how old they are...what even are Kongs?

Cranky Kong went from ripe youngin to old af in 13 years time. Makes you think.

 

[Deleted member]

Pakky , it’s really

Everybody matures at different rates so I assume that applies to Kongs as well. We don’t even know how old they are...what even are Kongs?

Their great granddaddy is this guy:

 

[Deleted member]

Which would make his job even harder. None of those details are necessary for actually getting the model proportions right. That's the issue, not details, which come later. He posted it at the right time, really. Otherwise he'd have to restart a ton of work if he had any details. You put those rendering colors on after you have the actual body shape correct. Which wasn't correct. Yet.

Well, regardless, I quite frankly don't know why Pakky made Tiny Kong the way he did in that model. There is a thing as being too thicc.

Why...

Just why...

Why the heck is this being an discussion to begin with!?

Only on Smashbords will you find the weirdest stuff being discussed.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Thank.

I'm shocked because well is in a Nintendo game and is basically a Nintendo franchise. So I thought tolerances would be a little higher.

Not even offended just, shocked.

I don't think I ever seen an official character that thicc, even Bayonetta pale in comparison to that xP.

But once you tone down the balloons, I think the model looks decent.