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[KingofKoopas]

Oh **** I just noticed we passed page 300

I know this will be a page late but some of you I am on a roll with that tonight so

Spoiler: Viewer Discretion is Advised

 

[Cutie Gwen]

We got a RWBY fighter before we got a Megaten fighter.

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sigh...
One day...

Wait is an actual RWBY fighter confirmed or do you mean BBTAG?

 

[Deleted member]

I can't help but wonder what the best way to get Atlus's attention would be in regards to upcoming games.

 

[Will]

So yes I have my reasons to be upset about Retro not making a new DKC game. There literally won’t be another studio that will make a new game, while there’s plenty of studios, and even Nintendo themselves who can handle Metroid.

Retro made the Prime games, so why should they be disallowed to make another?

If you're implying DKC is Retro's prime child, you couldn't be more wrong. It's more of a middle child.

 

[Wademan94]

xD Does this guy count as part of the long line?
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xD I think I am having way too much fun doing these montages with every figure I get.

He’s at least a video game character, I was listing non-ones

 

[AndreaAC]

He’s at least a video game character, I was listing non-ones

:O Ohh! :> My mistake!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Federation Force at least that’s the same exact genre as the rest of Metroid. You can’t compare them. And it’s not like Metroid didn’t have Hunters and Pinball as spin off games earlier. It was really only absent on N64, and on the Wii U but made big comeback regardless.

DKC didn’t have its big come back since Donkey Kong Country Returns! And before that, the only games that really addressed its lore and established franchise elements was DK King of Swing, Jungle Climber and Barrel Blast. These sort of games don’t even get released anymore because PAON is gone from Nintendo.

It just doesn’t make sense DKC is neglected so badly. Mario VS DK also has way more Mario elements in its gameplay, and up until its latest 3DS game it didn’t even have any DKC character outside of DK, who’s not even playable and acted way more out of character than Samus did in a couple of scenes in Other M. Also, Other M was great. And Samus Returns 3DS was still mostly a new game to many.

So yes I have my reasons to be upset about Retro not making a new DKC game. There literally won’t be another studio that will make a new game, while there’s plenty of studios, and even Nintendo themselves who can handle Metroid.

What the **** is the point you're trying to make? I only brought up FF because you brought it up, which means the DK spinoffs and subseries must count too. A co-operative multiplayer game when Metroid is almost exclusively about singleplayer isn't really the same. My point is that you're acting like DKC is all that matters and when you ACTUALLY LOOK at what else was released that you're coming across as whiney because your favourite isn't getting the attention you think it should. Besides, one could easily argue DKC is a spinoff as the most well-known incarnation of Donkey Kong is the arcade game

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Yikes,do they ALWAYS believe the customer is right even after threats of violence?

In my field, we wouldn't stand for that...

Yes. Yes they do.

 

[Will]

Besides, one could easily argue DKC is a spinoff as the most well-known incarnation of Donkey Kong is the arcade game

Reminder that this classic underrated gem exists

 

[staindgrey]

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Retro made the Prime games, so why should they be disallowed to make another?

If you're implying DKC is Retro's prime child, you couldn't be more wrong. It's more of a middle child.

I'm coming in late on this argument so I'm not picking a side, but the amount of people still at Retro who had anything at all to do with the Prime trilogy is next to zero. It's just a name at this point.

So in that regard, looking at it as a team of people and not just a brand name, DKC is actually kinda their prime child as of now. That said, most studios enjoy working on something brand new versus creating more of the same. I imagine no one at Retro is complaining right now.

 

[Will]

I imagine no one at Retro is complaining right now.

i mean can they complain? wouldnt that put their job at risk

 

[PLATINUM7]

The head of Gameinformer said that Retro was chosen because they pitched a demo that Nintendo liked. So I take it MP4 is something they wanted to do.

i mean can they complain? wouldnt that put their job at risk

They can go complain on Glassdoor.

 

[Deleted member]

staindgrey How would you feel about a survival horror game set in a medieval setting? Picture Zelda's puzzle solving with Resident Evil and Dead Space's horror. Oh, and magic.

 

[Idon]

Wait is an actual RWBY fighter confirmed or do you mean BBTAG?

BBTAG, though "they are open to the idea of working with Roosterteeth on making a full RWBY fighter" or something along those lines.

 

[Diddy Kong]

What the **** is the point you're trying to make? I only brought up FF because you brought it up, which means the DK spinoffs and subseries must count too. A co-operative multiplayer game when Metroid is almost exclusively about singleplayer isn't really the same. My point is that you're acting like DKC is all that matters and when you ACTUALLY LOOK at what else was released that you're coming across as whiney because your favourite isn't getting the attention you think it should. Besides, one could easily argue DKC is a spinoff as the most well-known incarnation of Donkey Kong is the arcade game

Most well known ? Then why has Donkey Kong ALWAYS been represented as DKC Donkey Kong in Smash?

Whatever point you tried to made failed with that. I can’t take you serious about this anymore. A Metroid spin off shouldn’t count because it’s a multiplayer, but Mario VS Donkey Kong TOTALLY COUNTS of course even if DK isn’t even playable, there’s no DKC elements, and DK is the antagonist.

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

 

[PF9]

Yes. Yes they do.

Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit

 

[Will]

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

thats why they rereleased it

its been two years chief, calm your buns

also:

The head of Gameinformer said that Retro was chosen because they pitched a demo that Nintendo liked. So I take it MP4 is something they wanted to do.

don't act like retro was forced by gunpoint to do it either

 

[KingofKoopas]

Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit

Those cost money.. Otherwise I would have sued a whole lotta telemarketers.

 

[Wademan94]

Reminder that this classic underrated gem exists

I wish this song was in Smash:

 

[NineS]

Whoa, whoa, what's this retro studios/Metroid v. DKC talk about? What happened?

 

[Diddy Kong]

thats why they rereleased it

its been two years chief, calm your buns

also:



don't act like retro was forced by gunpoint to do it either

I can’t blame Retro. I never did.

I blame Nintendo for this. As they refuse to handle DKC properly.

 

[Idon]

Whoa, whoa, what's this retro studios/Metroid v. DKC talk about? What happened?

The neglect Olympics
Arguing about which franchise has had the biggest hiatus.

 

[Will]

I blame Nintendo for this. As they refuse to handle DKC properly.

What???

The neglect Olympics
Arguing about which franchise has had the biggest hiatus.

****, make Retro work on F-Zero.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Were on our last week of January now.

Whose excited for Piranha Plant in February?

 

[NineS]

The neglect Olympics
Arguing about which franchise has had the biggest hiatus.

Oh, is that all?
I mean, if you're talking about which franchise has been neglected more...

cough, cough.


yeah jokes aside mother/earthbound is probably dead as a franchise to nintendo, but that's old news at this point.

 

[Zinith]

I don't know about hiatuses, but to me, the Yoshi games being handled by Artoon/Arcest was a fate worse than hiatus...

 

[Will]

Whose excited for Piranha Plant in February?

Not me because that's what literally everyone will be playing online for like a week.

Oh, is that all?
I mean, if you're talking about which franchise has been neglected more...
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cough, cough.


yeah jokes aside mother/earthbound is probably dead as a franchise to nintendo, but that's old news at this point.

Dead?

IT'S FINISHED. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE GAMES

 

[NineS]

Not me because that's what literally everyone will be playing online for like a week.


Dead?

IT'S FINISHED. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE GAMES

i was honestly referring more to a mother 3 in U.S. kind of thing

but if you want a "living" franchise, there's kid icarus. that hiatus from myths and monsters to uprising is insane.
to be honest though, who was that big a fan of those two original games for that long?

 

[Idon]

Oh, is that all?
I mean, if you're talking about which franchise has been neglected more...
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cough, cough.

Well the franchise is done. Not like they actually plan on doing anything with it except maybe (probably not) giving an official localization.

Man, I'm just waiting on SMTV, first time in 16 years since an SMT game's been on a home console.
Also Raidou 3 made by Platinum, but thaaaaat's never happening.

 

[Will]

i was honestly referring more to a mother 3 in U.S. kind of thing

That's not being dead, that's just localization never happening because of things.

 

[SoccerStar9001]

Most well known ? Then why has Donkey Kong ALWAYS been represented as DKC Donkey Kong in Smash?

Whatever point you tried to made failed with that. I can’t take you serious about this anymore. A Metroid spin off shouldn’t count because it’s a multiplayer, but Mario VS Donkey Kong TOTALLY COUNTS of course even if DK isn’t even playable, there’s no DKC elements, and DK is the antagonist.

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

Geez, mate. I don't dislike DKC, but if you ask me whether I prefer Metroid dead in the water or DKC to be dead in the water I prefer DKC to take a back seat while Metroid shines.

DKC has a lot of overlap with other Nintendo series, Nintendo isn't in dire needs of more platformers right now. Metroid Prime, however, is one of Nintendo more unique games and not a lot of games are like it.

Donkey Kong series is sort of it a weird position of being pretty good sales wise but not crazy great like Mario or Pokemon to justify making a spin off based off of DK instead of just making another Mario kart. But it isn't like Donkey Kong is dead in the water, it has good sales so it will get another game sooner or later.

 

[DevaAshera]

Federation Force at least that’s the same exact genre as the rest of Metroid. You can’t compare them. And it’s not like Metroid didn’t have Hunters and Pinball as spin off games earlier. It was really only absent on N64, and on the Wii U but made big comeback regardless.

DKC didn’t have its big come back since Donkey Kong Country Returns! And before that, the only games that really addressed its lore and established franchise elements was DK King of Swing, Jungle Climber and Barrel Blast. These sort of games don’t even get released anymore because PAON is gone from Nintendo.

It just doesn’t make sense DKC is neglected so badly. Mario VS DK also has way more Mario elements in its gameplay, and up until its latest 3DS game it didn’t even have any DKC character outside of DK, who’s not even playable and acted way more out of character than Samus did in a couple of scenes in Other M. Also, Other M was great. And Samus Returns 3DS was still mostly a new game to many.

So yes I have my reasons to be upset about Retro not making a new DKC game. There literally won’t be another studio that will make a new game, while there’s plenty of studios, and even Nintendo themselves who can handle Metroid.

I'm sorry, even if I like Donkey Kong Country more the Metroid, I have to fault you here.

You say that plenty of studios and Nintendo themselves could handle Metroid, that also holds true for Donkey Kong. There is no reason that Nintendo couldn't have another company or themselves make a platformer (especially when Nintendo knows well how to make platformers) the same holds true for Metroid (though, to be honest, Western companies like Retro are probably better choices then Japanese ones for Metroid Prime since Shooters aren't as popular in the East as in the West).

There's also franchise fatigue you have to worry about. If Retro was stuck only making Donkey Kong titles, they would inevitably get franchise fatigue and their games would suffer for it, taking a break is good for a company and its series. Its likely Retro themselves wanted to move onto something other then Donkey Kong for a moment themselves (rumor had it that they were developing Star Fox Grand Prix for example).

Retro never even said they were making a Donkey Kong game, so whatever they would have been making instead of Metroid Prime 4 might not have even been Donkey Kong related so you literally have no reason to be mad that they are developing Metroid Prime 4 instead.

Most well known ? Then why has Donkey Kong ALWAYS been represented as DKC Donkey Kong in Smash?

Whatever point you tried to made failed with that. I can’t take you serious about this anymore. A Metroid spin off shouldn’t count because it’s a multiplayer, but Mario VS Donkey Kong TOTALLY COUNTS of course even if DK isn’t even playable, there’s no DKC elements, and DK is the antagonist.

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

Mostly because that was the design of Donkey Kong at the time and has been DK's default design since DKC, even appearing in Mario spin-offs such as Mario Kart & Mario Party.

DKC isn't being 'neglected', it had a game released in the past 5 years, its FINE, it doesn't need a release every year or every two years, its not dead, its not hibernating, its perfectly fine and will get a new game when its time for one. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets another new game before the end of the Switch's lifespan. I mean, the gap between Donkey Kong Country Returns and Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze was 4 years and I know its been 5 years since its release, but it also had its upgraded port to tide over DK fans and keep the series relevant.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Most well known ? Then why has Donkey Kong ALWAYS been represented as DKC Donkey Kong in Smash?

Whatever point you tried to made failed with that. I can’t take you serious about this anymore. A Metroid spin off shouldn’t count because it’s a multiplayer, but Mario VS Donkey Kong TOTALLY COUNTS of course even if DK isn’t even playable, there’s no DKC elements, and DK is the antagonist.

Tropical Freeze sold too much for DKC to be neglected like this.

Jesus you aren't even listening. Look at every time Donkey Kong has gotten referenced in movies and TV shows. I think you'll find there are significantly more references to the arcade than DKC

My point is that you were counting spinoffs for Metroid so it's only fair to count spinoffs for DK too, and by doing that, Donkey Kong is significantly larger with more frequent releases than you're letting on, meaning you're being dishonest as ****. Especially with this. Mario VS DK doesn't count because you don't play as DK and he's the antagonist? Despite DK being an antagonist in the arcade game? And the fact that Samus is the final boss and not playable at all in FF? Do you even know what you're talking about?

I think a port to a significantly more successful system to the point the game actually sold very well isn't being neglected. You DO know game development literally takes years right?

The neglect Olympics
Arguing about which franchise has had the biggest hiatus.

Not even, I'm arguing that Donkey Kong isn't oppressed

 

[NineS]

so why are we fighting about who's neglected more again?
what ended up starting this?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

so why are we fighting about who's neglected more again?
what ended up starting this?

Diddy got upset about no new DKC, presumably because Retro is now working on Prime 4 and not DKCR3

 

[Deleted member]

so why are we fighting about who's neglected more again?
what ended up starting this?

Diddy Kong's mad because Retro's working on Prime 4 instead of Donkey Country 3. Which is his loss, to be honest.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Eh, there's no proof Retro was ever working on another DKC game. Seems misplaced to me, really.

 

[Will]

me when nintendo works on any game that isnt another f-zero when they totally couldve made those developers make another f-zero and they totally all 100% wanted to and planned on doing so, just believe me

 

[DevaAshera]

Am I the only one finding this funny since I recall seeing Metroid fans similarly upset that Retro was working on the two Donkey Kong Country games instead of Metroid Prime 4 and now that they are working on Metroid Prime 4, a Donkey Kong fan is upset that they aren't working on Donkey Kong?

I wonder if Rare would have had to put up with this if the internet was this prevalent in the 90s when they announced Banjo-Kazooie rather then Donkey Kong 64?

 

[NineS]

so this really is just a bit of a petty fandom war, then?
those always leave a sour taste in my mouth, because no one wins in the end.