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I know that. I feel like the popular AT requests or other Nintendo characters ( Maybe even some third parties ) are almost guaranteed. It exposes a part of the roster quickly.thatsbeen
It's unfair because you're trivializing the fact that everyone has their own desires, as if they're not allowed to feel insulted if said desires (well, the realistic ones anyway; if you wanted someone like Shrek, you were never going to get what you wanted anyway) were shafted and instead they got some random potted plant (that met the desires of literally no one) for their trouble.
it doesnt expose anything, it sets the standards of the top talk of speculation
Smash never solely added requested characters. People have all the right to not like Piranha Plant but if you found its inclusion is insulting...well, there won't be a non-insulting newcomer roster for you.Now, I’m not in the boat of thinking that Plant not being in would give people their most wanted instead because it doesn’t honestly work like that.
Shadow and Isaac are deconfirmed either way and nothing we can do about it until next game, Geno’s fate is debatable but Banjo still got a shot.
The fact that they’ve prioritized an enemy that’s served nothing but a level obstacle that’s never even been playable in a single Mario spin-off while Goomba, Koopa Troopa, Shy Guy etc have yet giving it full fledged playable status in one of gaming’s most highly anticipated fighting crossovers over actual fan favorites that people having requesting for a long time.
Yeah, I don’t blame people for finding it as a giant middle finger.
You forgotit doesnt expose anything, it sets the standards of the top talk of speculation
you want to know which large list of totally locks of ATs got out of AT hell?
yep, that sure is a lot of exposed. should've seen all those 1 trophies coming
.Honestly, I don't see where there would be a domino effect. Ridley and King K. Rool have had MASSIVE amounts of requests for quite a while, and not to discredit the rest of the characters listed here, they weren't as big as those two.Is it too early to say this
I feel like Smash's future installments might have the "domino effect".
"What about Geno, Isaac and Waluigi?
*Geno, Isaac and Waluigi*
"What about Shadow, Springman and Ashley?*
*Shadow, Springman and Ashley*
"No Takumarku nor Rex?"
*Takamarku and Rex*
Feel free to judge me. :V
[insert banjo/steve comment here]
Man. I love Banjo, but ****ing hell "Banjo in Smash" and what comes with that whole ordeal rubbed me way too many wrong ways.
They do not have to be on the level, but people are going to want more.
One of my biggest desires was to be surprised (even if I didn't end up playing PP much in the end anyway), but that's besides the point.
It's not much but I think it still should count for something, considering there were other potential echoes that didn't make the cut, bandwagon support or not.
I mean when you put it that way it sounds really bad, sure, but how many people were asking for Chain Chomp, Nintendog or Color TV-Game 15 to get upgraded? And how many newcomers do we get in each installment?The mere fact that only 3 out of 70 characters got upgraded out of AT status is pretty depressing tbh.
It kinda sets the standard that characters who are currently still ATs are set with their roles until they start making a few exceptions hence the three mentioned.
).It could go two ways with this.
The mere fact that only 3 out of 70 characters got upgraded out of AT status is pretty depressing tbh.
It kinda sets the standard that characters who are currently still ATs are set with their roles until they start making a few exceptions hence the three mentioned.
too.
*laughs in Palutena*
Sadly this, unless Sakurai remembers them and adds them as reps anyway. The original Xenoblade was out in Japan since 2010, and we got Shulk in Smash for Wii U & 3DS for 2014. There are certain variables to consider like there being no Xenoblade rep up until then, and Nintendo still being fresh on newcomer ideas on the 1st-Party front. Xenoblade characters are pretty likable imo, so if the next rep is from Xenoblade Chronicles 3 or what have you, I can make due with it.
And look how well that worked for Elma.
It took a second entry for her to be good.
Better than being worse like Little Mac.It took a second entry for her to be good.
Not surprising. People like to treat Assist Trophy status like a waiting list for fighter roster but most of them are selected to be an item for a reason.The mere fact that only 3 out of 70 characters got upgraded out of AT status is pretty depressing tbh.
It kinda sets the standard that characters who are currently still ATs are set with their roles until they start making a few exceptions hence the three mentioned.
I guess it depends on the users active at any moment
Yep forgot about him, technically the first character promoted to a fighter.
Different item, but same function.
Not my point, I’m not saying literally every Assist Trophy needs to be on the roster but those ones you mentioned are irrelevant because they’re clearly minor characters/items that fit the AT mold perfectly.I mean when you put it that way it sounds really bad, sure, but how many people were asking for Chain Chomp, Nintendog or Color TV-Game 15 to get upgraded? And how many newcomers do we get in each installment?
Although I don't think people should get their hopes too high for assist anyway. Clearly there's something about Waluigi for instance that makes Sakurai think he's not really suited to be a full-fledged fighter, but it is possible for him to change his mind on these things i the futre (*cough*
etc, if they can be fighters so can Wah.
You saying some of us are ****posting degenerates?I guess it depends on the users active at any moment
: Am I a joke to you?
And if you want to get technical, Chrom was also promoted, though he wasn't an Assist. :V
You know nobody said being an AT means you are a D-tier character, right? And no Smash game after Melee said all fighters are all-stars?I’m talking about characters like Isaac, Spring-Man and Takamaru who were very fit to be playable fighters on the roster but if they’re stuck to the same role as say Arcade Bunny, Hammer Bro or Dr.Kawashima, it implies they’re not good enough to be playable or considered D-tier characters when there practically are D-tier characters in the roster right now lol.
And Sakurai possibly not seeing Waluigi as a suited fighter? If he feels that way, then I’m frankly gonna call bull on that.
There’s no excuse when he made movesets for
Dude. Chill.Not my point, I’m not saying literally every Assist Trophy needs to be on the roster but those ones you mentioned are irrelevant because they’re clearly minor characters/items that fit the AT mold perfectly.
I’m talking about characters like Isaac, Spring-Man and Takamaru who were very fit to be playable fighters on the roster but if they’re stuck to the same role as say Arcade Bunny, Hammer Bro or Dr.Kawashima, it implies they’re not good enough to be playable or considered D-tier characters when there practically are D-tier characters in the roster right now lol.
And Sakurai possibly not seeing Waluigi as a suited fighter? If he feels that way, then I’m frankly gonna call bull on that.
There’s no excuse when he made movesets for
I mean, I don't really like Xenoblade X, but I do see why people would want her. However, the problem with Elma really is -- at least how I see it -- like with how Rex and Springman got "snubbed", being a victim of bad timing.
We can also probably throw
and in there since the former has been a boss since Brawl and the latter also served as an NPC role in Pit's Brawl FS along with a brief cameo in the SSE.
If we want to get technical, I guess you can count Palutena, too.
'd.
AndWe can also probably throw
because he was in Melee but only if you beat 20 wireframes in cruel melee. And who's got time for that.
For what?
Didn't say you were angry. But the conversation's getting old. You're making a ton of leaps in logic and generalizations, and when multiple users tell you this, you double down on them instead of acknowledging them. No one's getting heated. The conversation just isn't going anywhere and it's starting to get annoying.
On the contrary it could be argued that Sakurai is just giving Arcade Bunny, Hammer Bro and Dr.Kawahima a lot of respect. They may not be heavily demanded fan-favorites but they're all notable in some other way. Hammer Bro is a classic Mario enemy infamous for being tricky to deal with, Arcade Bunny is brimming with personality and charm, and Dr.Kawashima was the literal face of a very successful DS title. I guess this is a glass half-empty or half-full situation.
Hey, I never said I knew what exactly his reasons would be. Many of those example characters you mentioned there are ones chosen specifically because they can do something really different or creative - maybe he just hasn't had the proper inspiration or motivation to add Waluigi yet. If you think about it, all Waluigi really had going was a consistent attendance record in Mario sports titles as well as some fan popularity, but the latter of which never really exploded to Ridley/K.Rool tier until this past E3. His demand has been just a tiny bit on the niche side until fairly recently.And Sakurai possibly not seeing Waluigi as a suited fighter? If he feels that way, then I’m frankly gonna call bull on that.
There’s no excuse when he made movesets for
