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[Cosmic77]

So I'm feeling skeptical today. Are we jumping the gun on who "brave" refers to? We assume "jack" must be Joker, through context. But if we didn't know Joker was being added, would we assume that just from the codename? "Jack" is an indirect reference to Joker at best, and this is why I'm skeptical of "brave" right now. Thing is, saying "brave" is Erdrick is a direct reference to him. Yet, "jack" is not a direct reference to Joker. We already knew about Joker, so why would "brave" be such an obvious assumption by comparison? If the purpose of a codename is to obscure the referent, then why would "brave" be so transparent as to be easily grasped by anyone who understands Dragon Quest?

My point is, the name "brave" being Erdrick is surprisingly obvious as a reference to who it is, which would seem to defeat the purpose of the codename in the first place. Hence, I believe that "brave" is not Erdrick. And due to the nature of the codename, I would be unable to specify an immediate alternative.

Of course, I could be completely incorrect, and I'll take the L if that happens.

It could go either way. A reference is still a reference.

That being said, I'm not willing to assume Erdrick is guaranteed or anything. These leakers keep hyping an Erdrick reveal, but they completely missed PP and Joker. That by itself is enough to make me cautious. Then, Verge himself completely messed up the February Direct predictions. Since Verge is the backbone behind a lot of this, that makes me really cautious.

People can call me ignorant, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of this being a coincidence. After all, wasn't Isaac all but confirmed after the Tweet using the odd angle, the September Direct delay following the earthquake, the mysterious sprout item, and the green pixels jutting into Olimar on the banner?

 

[Deleted member]

Excuse me!? Source please.

version 3.0 is coming in april so the latest timeframeis the last day of april in 72 days

 

[Dyllybirdy]

What’s going on dude?

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

G...going? As in....?

 

[praline]

Well, it's too late now.

What’s wrong, buddy?

 

[staindgrey]

I don't think I can keep doing this.

It's goddamn tiring.

 

[Alternis]

oh also i forgot to mention that there's also a theory that brave was meant to be announced first, so that would still make verge's comments that an se rep is coming first still fit, and if there's still an se rep at this point it's probably erdrick

I honestly forgot about leakers when making my post.
Of course, Erdrick is likely in his own right by virtue of his history. I not going to deny that he could happen, but I will try to invite discussion as to other characters, perhaps. While it's fun to be surprised, for the sake of speculation, maybe we should consider other characters as likely, too.
Watch as Erdrick is in but he's not "brave."

 

[Just a penguin]

I don't think I can keep doing this.

It's goddamn tiring.

Could you turn down the vagueness by about 7, please?

 

[Deleted member]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

what do you mean by going?

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

version 3.0 is coming in april so the latest timeframeis the last day of april in 72 days

Gah. Oops. I misread it as 72 hours because of the Zelda Majora's Mask bit that got posted in the vicinity.

 

[PsySmasher]

God... I swear that half the time I come into this thread something stupid happens.

Dyllybirdy Everything OK buddy?

 

[MainJPW]

So I'm feeling skeptical today. Are we jumping the gun on who "brave" refers to? We assume "jack" must be Joker, through context. But if we didn't know Joker was being added, would we assume that just from the codename? "Jack" is an indirect reference to Joker at best, and this is why I'm skeptical of "brave" right now. Thing is, saying "brave" is Erdrick is a direct reference to him. Yet, "jack" is not a direct reference to Joker. We already knew about Joker, so why would "brave" be such an obvious assumption by comparison? If the purpose of a codename is to obscure the referent, then why would "brave" be so transparent as to be easily grasped by anyone who understands Dragon Quest?

My point is, the name "brave" being Erdrick is surprisingly obvious as a reference to who it is, which would seem to defeat the purpose of the codename in the first place. Hence, I believe that "brave" is not Erdrick. And due to the nature of the codename, I would be unable to specify an immediate alternative.

Of course, I could be completely incorrect, and I'll take the L if that happens.

I’m guessing “Packu” Being a direct reference to Paranha Plant doesn’t count in this discussion?

 

[TheCJBrine]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

If this means what I think it means, then I hope the best for you.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m guessing “Packu” Being a direct reference to Paranha Plant doesn’t count in this discussion?

well plant was almost 100% worked on in the base game, so idk if you can really compare the two

 

[KarneraMythos]

fam it's never time for that

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive underwear model, he'd be the Amazing Speedo-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive card shark, he'd be the Amazing Spade-r-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive agent, he'd be the Amazing Spy-der-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive potato, he'd be the Amazing Spud-er-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive orange, he'd be the Amazing Cider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive biker, he'd be the Amazing Rider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive ninja, he'd be the Amazing Strider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive Peter Griffin, he'd be the Amazing Wider-Man.

 

[Cosmic77]

well plant was almost 100% worked on in the base game, so idk if you can really compare the two

PP had to have been in development for quite some time. An amiibo typically creates a year to make, so for PP to get released in the second wave? Clearly he's not comparable to the other DLC characters.

 

[Deleted member]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

Please don’t leave again

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

my character dies from jumping off the roof at least 3 times from me building a roof on. my ****ing house

 

[Alternis]

I’m guessing “Packu” Being a direct reference to Paranha Plant doesn’t count in this discussion?

And that's where I can't really argue anything. All I've got is the idea that Piranha Plant was planned to either be a base roster character, or separate from the DLC pass characters. He was already in development before Ultimate released for some time, so his name in the files is literally his name. This is kind of moving the goalposts, but Plant is undeniably separate from the Fighter's pass, so who's to say the codename could not reflect this? I just question all of this because again, "jack" is not a direct reference to Joker, so why would he be the odd one out?

Edit: Others vocalized my Plant retort faster than I did, but you understand.

 

[Just a penguin]

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive underwear model, he'd be the Amazing Speedo-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive card shark, he'd be the Amazing Spade-r-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive agent, he'd be the Amazing Spy-der-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive potato, he'd be the Amazing Spud-er-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive orange, he'd be the Amazing Cider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive biker, he'd be the Amazing Rider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive ninja, he'd be the Amazing Strider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive Peter Griffin, he'd be the Amazing Wider-Man.

If Peter was bitten by a radioactive round dessert, he'd be the Amazing Pie-derman.

 

[Pakky]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

What? What's going on?

 

[Raxxel]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

What do you mean by that?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

No response at all, huh? Well, at least nobody's going to miss me then...

Hey Dylly, I'm just trying to navigate this thread.

I hope you're doing well and if not, I hope things turn around.

 

[staindgrey]

Could you turn down the vagueness by about 7, please?

I apologize. I didn't mean for that to be a "look at me and ask me what's going on because I didn't go into detail" post. I just didn't want to go into detail.

Spoiler

I'm just tired of putting out fires and validating people and basically playing mama hen for every goddamn person I know. I'm tired of my roommate who's taking advantage of my kindness, I'm tired of every friend and friend of a friend feeling victimized for something and thinking I'm the one to confide in and fix it, I'm tired of paying for everything for my brother because he can't hold a job, and I'm tired of having everyone rely on me while I get to rely on absolutely nobody else.

And recently, not pointing any fingers at anybody but, this feeling has crossed over into my favorite forum, and I'm just... getting tired of putting out internet fires too. I just want to relax and ****post with my friends for a bit. I don't want to keep coming in to find X said something offensive to Y but X doesn't see it that way so we have three pages of people taking sides.

 

[Deleted member]

If this means what I think it means, then I hope the best for you.

Same.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

And that's where I can't really argue anything. All I've got is the idea that Piranha Plant was planned to either be a base roster character, or separate from the DLC pass characters. He was already in development before Ultimate released for some time, so his name in the files is literally his name. This is kind of moving the goalposts, but Plant is undeniably separate from the Fighter's pass, so who's to say the codename could not reflect this? I just question all of this because again, "jack" is not a direct reference to Joker, so why would he be the odd one out?

Edit: Others vocalized my Plant retort faster than I did, but you understand.

What if the correlation was the first letter of the codeword also being the first letter of the character's name?

 

[Deleted member]

I apologize. I didn't mean for that to be a "look at me and ask me what's going on because I didn't go into detail" post. I just didn't want to go into detail.

Spoiler

I'm just tired of putting out fires and validating people and basically playing mama hen for every goddamn person I know. I'm tired of my roommate who's taking advantage of my kindness, I'm tired of every friend and friend of a friend feeling victimized for something and thinking I'm the one to confide in and fix it, I'm tired of paying for everything for my brother because he can't hold a job, and I'm tired of having everyone rely on me while I get to rely on absolutely nobody else.

And recently, not pointing any fingers at anybody but, this feeling has crossed over into my favorite forum, and I'm just... getting tired of putting out internet fires too. I just want to relax and ****post with my friends for a bit. I don't want to keep coming in to find X said something offensive to Y but X doesn't see it that way so we have three pages of people taking sides.

I am sorry...

 

[KarneraMythos]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

I don't know you much at all, but I don't like how ominous this sounds...

Hopefully whatever it is that's going on, you pull through and come back like nothing even happened. God speed, Dylly.

 

[staindgrey]

I am sorry...

You're good man.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Well, it's too late now.

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

Bro, if you’re thinking of doing what i think you’re going to be doing, then stop. Just please don’t do it. There are people around you that care for you. We all want to help you so please try and talk to us. Whether through here or PMs. Talking always helps. Trust me.

I apologize. I didn't mean for that to be a "look at me and ask me what's going on because I didn't go into detail" post. I just didn't want to go into detail.

Spoiler

I'm just tired of putting out fires and validating people and basically playing mama hen for every goddamn person I know. I'm tired of my roommate who's taking advantage of my kindness, I'm tired of every friend and friend of a friend feeling victimized for something and thinking I'm the one to confide in and fix it, I'm tired of paying for everything for my brother because he can't hold a job, and I'm tired of having everyone rely on me while I get to rely on absolutely nobody else.

And recently, not pointing any fingers at anybody but, this feeling has crossed over into my favorite forum, and I'm just... getting tired of putting out internet fires too. I just want to relax and ****post with my friends for a bit. I don't want to keep coming in to find X said something offensive to Y but X doesn't see it that way so we have three pages of people taking sides.

I’m really sorry...

 

[Alternis]

What if the correlation was the first letter of the codeword also being the first letter of the character's name?

That would make sense. I have no idea though, I didn't make them.

 

[Pakky]

I apologize. I didn't mean for that to be a "look at me and ask me what's going on because I didn't go into detail" post. I just didn't want to go into detail.

Spoiler

I'm just tired of putting out fires and validating people and basically playing mama hen for every goddamn person I know. I'm tired of my roommate who's taking advantage of my kindness, I'm tired of every friend and friend of a friend feeling victimized for something and thinking I'm the one to confide in and fix it, I'm tired of paying for everything for my brother because he can't hold a job, and I'm tired of having everyone rely on me while I get to rely on absolutely nobody else.

And recently, not pointing any fingers at anybody but, this feeling has crossed over into my favorite forum, and I'm just... getting tired of putting out internet fires too. I just want to relax and ****post with my friends for a bit. I don't want to keep coming in to find X said something offensive to Y but X doesn't see it that way so we have three pages of people taking sides.

I apologize.

 

[staindgrey]

I apologize.

That's big of you, and I accept it. But I'm not the one you need to apologize to.

But, we've moved on from those topics and I've said my piece. My peace? However that stupid phrase goes. Doesn't even make sense.

 

[Raxxel]

Bro, if you’re thinking of doing what i think you’re going to be doing, then stop. Just please don’t do it. There are people around you that care for you. We all want to help you so please try and talk to us. Whether through here or PMs. Talking always helps. Trust me.

Judging by him saying that he's been told this, it doesn't seem to be something that he's in control of.

Dyllybirdy If you're implying what I think you are, I hope that you'll be able to overcome whatever is afflicting you. Best of luck.

 

[Deleted member]

I apologize. I didn't mean for that to be a "look at me and ask me what's going on because I didn't go into detail" post. I just didn't want to go into detail.

Spoiler

I'm just tired of putting out fires and validating people and basically playing mama hen for every goddamn person I know. I'm tired of my roommate who's taking advantage of my kindness, I'm tired of every friend and friend of a friend feeling victimized for something and thinking I'm the one to confide in and fix it, I'm tired of paying for everything for my brother because he can't hold a job, and I'm tired of having everyone rely on me while I get to rely on absolutely nobody else.

And recently, not pointing any fingers at anybody but, this feeling has crossed over into my favorite forum, and I'm just... getting tired of putting out internet fires too. I just want to relax and ****post with my friends for a bit. I don't want to keep coming in to find X said something offensive to Y but X doesn't see it that way so we have three pages of people taking sides.

I'll apologize for dragging that thing out for too long, it's just when I'm feeling good with myself, reading **** like that makes me get really volatile because sudeenly I'm not feeling so good with myself anymore.
But I should also consider how others want to feel good with themselves as well so I'm sorry that I put you and others who had nothing to do with it in a bad mood.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Judging by him saying that he's been told this, it doesn't seem to be something that he's in control of.

Dyllybirdy If you're implying what I think you are, I hope that you'll be able to overcome whatever is afflicting you. Best of luck.

My mistake. I didn’t get the whole context of what he was going through.

 

[Pakky]

That's big of you, and I accept it. But I'm not the one you need to apologize to.

But, we've moved on from those topics and I've said my piece. My peace? However that stupid phrase goes. Doesn't even make sense.

See I apologize for causing you grief however. I'm not responsible for what others blow out of context and continue to do with various other users.

I am sorry that they can't see the world as anything other than a vile place out to get them, but that's not my problem.

 

[SneakyLink]

So what sorta topic is happening this time?

 

[PsySmasher]

I've been told I'm apparently going much sooner than I expected...

I hope you’re not implying what I think you are implying...

Regardless, I hope you overcome whatever it is you are dealing with. If you ever wanna talk, my PMs are always open. I wish you nothing but the best, my friend.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

These god damn mother****ers.

ninto tweeted about Joker in smash and I thought it was a preview of him, the stage and music that comes with him