Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

[Pikaville]

Phoenix can hit Sent before the cutscene for the super starts.

>_> Like I said, it usually comes down to prediction and who hits the buttons fastest. I'd bank on the Phoenix player mashing c.lp the whole time, though.

Smooth Criminal

Yeah, that why I said you have to call the teleport.

It's not like I think HSF always beats it.

Tiger knee Hard Drive however.......

 

[Lythium]

Marvel thread blowing up like usual.

 

[choknater]

usually the same peeps

i love x-23

 

[Lythium]

edit: Might as well get rid of this post too. :3c

 

[F8AL]

*Re-opens thread*

Play nice, everyone.

 

[Pitzer]

There's a report button?

 

[Savon]

Arthur for top tier. Discuss

 

[_Dice]

no chance for arthur in top tier.

he is just nto solid enough overall for it.

only ending DHC trick
bad at building meter
very slow
above average projectile game
Best Anchor in game
strong chip game
Mediocre assists (without gold armor)

he's not with the likes of x-23, wolvie, neto, dante, she hulk, ammy.

 

[Lythium]

His beard, boxers, and golden armour fire bottle assist are certainly top tier.

Other than that, I don't know much about Arthur.

 

[BSP]

Does anyone bother with Haggar?

 

[_Dice]

Does anyone bother with Haggar?

<--------

haggar is BEAST without meter. 500-700k depending on combo before meter usage, can do 1 mil with 1 meter and an OTG assist.

 

[Pikaville]

Sentinel>Haggar

Real talk.

 

[_Dice]

depends entirely on the other two, both are upper mid tier characters with large amounts of damage. Haggar has fewer bad matchups but no keepaway. haggar has a better assist than sent.

with pressure assists, haggar is better than sent, with projectile based assists sentinel is better.

but thats pretty much the difference. haggar has better matchups.

 

[choknater]

haggar is very limited on point. you just have to know how to block his gimmicks and you're good, and if your team can keep him away, even better.

just gotta know how to block 2 main things: pipe, and don't rush blindly into him unless you're punishing cuz you'll get hit by lariat. never let him get in range for stupid grab stuff, so hitconfirm off assists is recommended.

lol. im giving tips on how to fight haggar. LOL.

his assist is just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD though.

i use tron over him because i like fighting with her, and i like that they stay on the ground when they get hit by the fire.

 

[Pikaville]

Sentinel has better range on his normals and has projectiles to keep slow *** Haggar away.

Air.m beats the pipe which is all that matters.

 

[_Dice]

haggar beats sentinel you've played bad haggars if you think sent beats him

Sent loses to:
Zero
dante
Magneto
Pheonix
She hulk
Haggar
Deadpool
Dormammu
Wolverine
Wesker
Chris
Trish
Shuma
Jill
Akuma
MODOK
he has one of the longest lists of bad matchups in the game.
and yeah he does lose to haggar, good haggars aren't just pipe spammers.

 

[Pink Reaper]

there's two things wrong with that list.

1) it doesnt have ammy on it
2) it pretends that Haggar doesnt also lose to all of those characters and more

 

[_Dice]

there's two things wrong with that list.

1) it doesnt have ammy on it
2) it pretends that Haggar doesnt also lose to all of those characters and more

forgot ammy >.<


Haggar doesn't lose to:
Zero,
Dante
Shuma
MODOK
Wesker

 

[choknater]

dang! you believe in the mayor more than anyone i've seen. you got this dice

it's all good. i have faith in hsien ko.

 

[Lythium]

i use tron over him because i like fighting with her, and i like that they stay on the ground when they get hit by the fire.

You also think she's cute, don't you?

ADMIT IT.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

there's two things wrong with that list.

1) it doesnt have ammy on it
2) it doesnt have spidey on it
3) it pretends that Haggar doesnt also lose to all of those characters and more

Fixed.

10chars

 

[Brightside6382]

forgot ammy >.<


Haggar doesn't lose to:

Wesker

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious? Wesker vs Hagger is one of the most one sided matchups in the game. Wesker completely shuts Haggar down in every way possible. He can keep him out with gunshots. He can run away away forever. He can can dash forward and do random lows to make Haggar afraid of dashing.

Your 1 mil combo's don't mean anything when he can't hit anyone.

 

[ETWIST51294]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA are you serious? Wesker vs Hagger is one of the most one sided matchups in the game. Wesker completely shuts Haggar down in every way possible. He can keep him out with gunshots. He can run away away forever. He can can dash forward and do random lows to make Haggar afraid of dashing.

Your 1 mil combo's don't mean anything when he can't hit anyone.

Can't wait for a weird *** explaination that doesn't make much sense at all.

 

[Pikaville]

All you have to do is play with a little bit of smarts and Sentinel isn't as bad as you think.

I completely disagree with Dante>Sent.

I have stomped a million Dantes online and offline with Sentinel on point.

Dante does not scare me, he is a weak little kitten in a flashy costume that has an extremely predictable teleport.

Haggar literally can't get near Sentinel, you can flight cancel lasers if he jumps over them and stuff his face with air.m's all day, any close range stuff he attempts is shut down by either cr.m or S.

 

[metalmonstar]

I have seen several Wesker vs Hagger matches and it is so painful to watch. Wesker just shoots and teleports until Hagger eventually dies. It is so one sided. Sentinel isn't good but he certainly isn't as terrible as people make him out to be. He kind of reminds me of SF4 Sagat to SSF4 Sagat.

 

[GreenAce]

forgot ammy >.<


Haggar doesn't lose to:
Zero,
Dante
Shuma
MODOK
Wesker

Alright I think i'm done coming on smashboards to talk about marvel lol.

Even though haggar is scary paired with a good set of assists. And actually I got to play timothy and there's videos of him exposing me and a few other people. Even though I won like 9 out of 10 games we played and they put up my worst matches

But the fact is haggar is a terrible character and saying he beats wesker the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Not only that he get obliterated by dante. There is absoulty nothing haggar can do against dante. He can't get in and if he actually does there's an invincible move waiting for him which he has no options or mobility to get around it.

 

[Minato]

I completely disagree with Dante>Sent.

I have stomped a million Dantes online and offline with Sentinel on point.

Dante does not scare me, he is a weak little kitten in a flashy costume that has an extremely predictable teleport.

Dante beats Sent. Sent doesn't have anything over Dante and Dante can harass him easily with his moves.

Alright I think i'm done coming on smashboards to talk about marvel lol.

Just ignore some people and it isn't that bad... I think. Actually, never mind. You're right. lol

 

[Smooth Criminal]

-_-

I'm beginning to think that kind of mentality's right. I'm even getting corrupted by some of the crap that is spouted here.

Smooth Criminal

 

[mlorenzo]

Sentinel gets beat by almost half of the cast. What makes him so good is his assist. Wesker destroys Haggar. Haggar has no safe way of approaching Wesker. Wesker can still teleport away and reset the situation.

Since Haggar is a big character he will get hit by the gun 90% of the time. With a good assist he might be able to approach but then he has to deal with Wesker and his assist. This matchup is one of the hardest for Haggar.

He has the same issue with Zero. Zero can camp haggar and since zero can stay in the air for a while assist can't really hurt him. Only assist that will help Haggar against this strategy is Doom Hidden Missile.

Haggar is a polarized character. He has amazing matchups and horrendous matchups.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Spiderman/Ammy/Wesker is still going strong.

I blazed some 70-19 guy's Wolverine with a Wesker/Ammy Crossover Combo

 

[choknater]

You also think she's cute, don't you?

ADMIT IT.

why else would anyone use an x-23, hsien ko, tron team?

 

[_Dice]

lol at people thinking doesn't lose to = beats.

Haggar-wesker is even
haggar-dante is even

the rest of those 5 haggar beats barely
except modok which he beats handily.

Haggar Wesker is about using assists to put wesker where you want him and playing a slow game. since advancing guard on the gunshot means it does tiny amounts of chip and his set distance teleports are pretty easily covered by haggar, and once you set up in the right spot wesker can jump and risk a gunshot to get hit with pipe, jump forward and risk the grab, or teleport and get hit with the pipe guaranteed.

matchup is in haggars favor when haggar corrals wesker correctly. matchup is in weskers favor when haggar fails to do so, I corral wesker about half the time, i call matchup even based on my experience as a haggar player (especially since i do very well vs wesker with almost every character)

 

[Brightside6382]

lol at people thinking doesn't lose to = beats.

Haggar-wesker is even
haggar-dante is even

the rest of those 5 haggar beats barely
except modok which he beats handily.

Haggar Wesker is about using assists to put wesker where you want him and playing a slow game. since advancing guard on the gunshot means it does tiny amounts of chip and his set distance teleports are pretty easily covered by haggar, and once you set up in the right spot wesker can jump and risk a gunshot to get hit with pipe, jump forward and risk the grab, or teleport and get hit with the pipe guaranteed.

matchup is in haggars favor when haggar corrals wesker correctly. matchup is in weskers favor when haggar fails to do so, I corral wesker about half the time, i call matchup even based on my experience as a haggar player (especially since i do very well vs wesker with almost every character)

So in your scenario we are assuming Haggar has assists while Wesker doesn't? Wesker with any kind of proj assists keeps Haggar out forever. If you want to play a slow game that's cool Wesker will just kill you by inches.

Also good luck trying to walk Wesker into the corner. He has teleports, wavedashes, faster normals, everything in the world to help him get out. What does Haggar have? The Pipe which only worked the first week the game was out and his horrible command grab that does LOL damage.

Honestly it sounds like you are just playing bad players or your only experience with the game is online.

 

[Pitzer]

Wesker ***** Haggar. :/

 

[Pink Reaper]

Haggar no assists is the worst character in the game, easily. There exists no character who doesnt beat Haggar when he has no assists.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

http://allisfighter.com/video/video.aspx?id=38122

Who's the best there is at what they do now *****?!

 

[Minato]

http://allisfighter.com/video/video.aspx?id=38122

Who's the best there is at what they do now *****?!

I remember seeing this weeks ago. Still, I miss MvC2 Spidey's funky hitboxes more. lol

 

[_Dice]

http://allisfighter.com/video/video.aspx?id=38122

Who's the best there is at what they do now *****?!

no one should be doubting spiderman being a good character, people should be doubting whether or not THEY can handle playing spiderman

<---- can't handle it.


i can't play jill for the same reason.

 

[Brightside6382]

http://allisfighter.com/video/video.aspx?id=38122

Who's the best there is at what they do now *****?!

Decent find but not very practical. You're better off just spacing his c.H.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

inb4 people complain about Spider-Man now