Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds

[choknater]

alvin, do u have the game at home? we should play

 

[L__]

xbl or psn?

 

[choknater]

i dont have the game. LOL

i just play it every chance i get

 

[Pikaville]

Ok so do you guys know what all the low hitting assists in the game are?

I know Wesker and X-23, but is there any more?

 

[GHNeko]

I'm assuming Blazblue was your first fighting game?

No. no it wasnt. I dont even play bb more than once every few months.

It's garbage to all of the new ***s. Number notation. lol Get that lame **** outta here.

Go play BB or GG or some other doujin fighter. Mahvels been using the old system (which is less annoying).

new***? i've been playing fighters way before gg bro.

First serious fighter other than smash was like tekken 2/3/marvel 1.

I dont even like BB or GG that much. they're casual games for me.

letter notation is trash. i used that **** waaay before i found number notations and lo-and-behold. once i found it, i immediately realized how **** it is.

letter notation more complicated than it has to be. looool. ****ing acronyms for names for digital inputs loool. like really now.

just like AM/PM. for telling time, AM/PM is more complicated than it has to be. people need to get on that 24hr clock.

Just like people need to drop letter notations and go with number notations which is simpler and faster than letter notation. Fact.

 

[Minato]

Ok so do you guys know what all the low hitting assists in the game are?

I know Wesker and X-23, but is there any more?

Felicia's Rolling Buckler, Deadpool's Quick Work, and She-Hulk's Torpedo.

 

[_Dice]

yeah but how bout those overhead assists:

C viper's Burning Kick and Akuma's Hyakkishu


This list is even more useful because the characters involved are great complements to any team, and every character can easily aim low on point.

 

[Serris]

I'm thinking of dropping X-23 for Sentinel. Yeah, I know. I need someone with a decent assist and a good game-ending capability for when Phoenix goes boom.

 

[Darky-Sama]

I'm still trying to get Crimson Viper to work effectively in my team. She's my primary backup if Phoenix gets wrecked because all those extra bars can go into her EX skills.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm still trying to get Crimson Viper to work effectively in my team. She's my primary backup if Phoenix gets wrecked because all those extra bars can go into her EX skills.

Wouldn't the plan be to keep Phoenix last? And it seems like Viper and Phoenix should never be on the same team.

 

[choknater]

neko

number notations are good

but letter notations are more meaningful in for marvel in particular, because they have more meaning than what the actual inputs are

 

[Darky-Sama]

Wouldn't the plan be to keep Phoenix last? And it seems like Viper and Phoenix should never be on the same team.

That's the plan, but people often try to force Phoenix out toward the beginning. Crimson Viper can manage either way, but as a backup, going into level 3 X-Factor with her can pretty much demolish things quicker than Dark Phoenix. Aside from that, she's got decent assists and vitality.

C.Viper's EX Thunder Knuckle goes through just about ever non-hyper projectile in the game (there's very few exceptions). If someone is spamming projectiles, EX Thunder Knuckle punish it into crouching L -> M -> H, then aerial string with a double jump -> S -> Seismic Hammer -> Burst Time. If not, you could always do a grounded combo into EX Thunder Knuckle and continue it the same way.

That pretty much guarantee's a KO on most characters, especially since you're doing it later in a match.

 

[Pikaville]

I tried using Akumas overhead assist but it comes out too slowly.

At the moment I use tatsu to try and get combos going/push my opponent away and Doom plasma beam to keep constant projectile pressure on my opponent after Sents standing and crouching H lasers.

 

[GHNeko]

neko

number notations are good

but letter notations are more meaningful in for marvel in particular, because they have more meaning than what the actual inputs are

how so? please explain. because as far as im concerned all directional letter notations can be explained with number notation.

the main reason I see people not liking number notation is simply because they're accustomed to letter notation and/or its tradition and/or what they grew up on

 

[_Dice]

I'm thinking of dropping X-23 for Sentinel. Yeah, I know. I need someone with a decent assist and a good game-ending capability for when Phoenix goes boom.

Get spencer. spensers wire grapple M assist is crazy awesome with pheonix, since it allows you to combo after any trap hits a character without teleport, thus making pheonix super safe to camp out with traps if she gets snapped in without 5 bars, also is allows her to camp with projectiles pretty damn well on the ground because with traps + spencer you can pretty much get a full combo off of any jump by the opponent.


my pheonix on point team is Pheonix/Spencer/Viper

call burning kick, teleport behind, hit low, unblockable every time.

but yeah those two assists make pheonix on point pretty damn safe and are a good team together if pheonix dies,

so i reccomend spencer regardless of your third.

I mean once they kill pheonix then they are like, YAY i win i'm the be-XFACTOR-BIONIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRMMMM

 

[ETWIST51294]

I hate number notation and will never use it and the same goes for probably 40% of the FG scene. Fact.

And no, I don't like letter notation because I got on that first, I like it better because I'm terrible at remembering numbers.

 

[Serris]

I was thinking Phoenix/Wolverine/Sentinel. If I put Phoenix on point, Sentinel's assist will make her less vulnerable. With Wolverine, it'll just rack up more damage. It seems like a decent enough team combination in theory, especially since I could use Wolverine's assist right after Sentinel sets Phoenix up for a ground bounce to extend the combo.

 

[Darky-Sama]

Does Wolverine's Tornado Claw Assist -> Teleport H -> Burnout Beak work? I never bothered trying combos out with Wolverine as an assist character.

 

[Pitzer]

Speaking of wolvy I learned him in like two minutes. He requires not skill what so ever. and Gains two bars from One BnB.

 

[Serris]

Does Wolverine's Tornado Claw Assist -> Teleport H -> Burnout Beak work? I never bothered trying combos out with Wolverine as an assist character.

It might. I use Berserker Slash, so I wouldn't know. Phoenix can c.H someone right out of it for a launch combo if you time it right.

 

[_Dice]

I'm never a fan of sentinel used as an anchor, he's a great point or good assist character, but on anchor he just seems lacking so much. maybe if only because people know how to play against him pretty well.

 

[Serris]

Seriously? Level 3 X-Factored Sentinel is almost as bad as Dark Phoenix, if not worse. Especially with a lot of meter.

Also, swapping Sentinel in over X-23 is the best decision I've made regarding my team. Ever.

 

[Minato]

Seriously? Level 3 X-Factored Sentinel is almost as bad as Dark Phoenix, if not worse. Especially with a lot of meter.

Also, swapping Sentinel in over X-23 is the best decision I've made regarding my team. Ever.

Depends. If players were smart and just ran away from Sentinel if he's in level 3 XF, he's no problem at all. Not like he has any real solid mixups midscreen. They just need to make sure Sentinel doesn't get them in the corner.

 

[Brightside6382]

Seriously? Level 3 X-Factored Sentinel is almost as bad as Dark Phoenix, if not worse. Especially with a lot of meter.

Also, swapping Sentinel in over X-23 is the best decision I've made regarding my team. Ever.

Sorry but Sent and Dark Phoenix aren't even comparable in X-factor. Really against Sent all you gotta do is be careful of his grabs and avoid the corner.

 

[_Dice]

Yeah sentinel is free as anchor vs good players playin safe n gay


also Hulk/dormammu is a crazy good time, can build up 3 destruction points with dorm on point through combos, and then switch out to hulk in a 900k combo (still with the points) then hulk gets a couple 1.1 million damage combos from anywhere on the screen when dormammu has liberation assits with 3 destruct charges.

crazy touch of death team.

 

[Gates]

I'm thinking of dropping X-23 for Sentinel. Yeah, I know. I need someone with a decent assist and a good game-ending capability for when Phoenix goes boom.

idk if Sentinel would be that helpful for your team specifically. I guess he helps Wolverine out a lot though.

I do find it kind of odd that people are actually starting with Phoenix now. That just seems really risky. I'm more in favor of the strategy of tagging in Phoenix when you have 5 bars and then tagging her back out when the opponent causes her to transform.

And no, I don't like letter notation because I got on that first, I like it better because I'm terrible at remembering numbers.

ITT: ETWIST can't count.

 

[Lythium]

Serris, use Tron.

She's a great battery.

 

[Pitzer]

Wolvy/Dormmamu/Zero

Once wolvy hits do the bnb gain 2 bars, Fatal claw dhc to stalking fire, air pressure with purification so good.

 

[Lythium]

I love Dormammu. Why don't I play him?

Because he's a fatty, but still.

Spoiler

And because I don't play this game, but still.

 

[Gates]

Wolvy/Dormmamu/Zero

Once wolvy hits do the bnb gain 2 bars, Fatal claw dhc to stalking fire, air pressure with purification so good.

I saw Gootecks using a similar team on Marvelous Adventures. He was doing pretty well with is, which is saying a lot because Gootecks sucks at this game.

 

[Scamp]

Dice you're recommending Spencer's assist for when Phoenix gets snapped in? That's highly unconventional advice.

Also everyone saying you can just run away and play gay from a level 3 Sentinel just doesn't get it IMO. This only applies if you're winning by so much that he has to X-factor from far away. Otherwise he activates in the middle of a combo, kills whoever he's comboing, then sets up a situation where if you guess wrong you die. That's what makes Sent so effective as an anchor. Also he's not really a good point character.

But no way is he close to Dark Phoenix when it comes to level 3 X-factor.


As for number notation, I think GHNeko is correct in that people are just stubborn and don't want to put any effort into learning a new notation. For me I didn't really have a choice because I play lots of fighting games, so it's nice to have a notation that is effective for all games. (Except for Tekken, where 1,2,3,4 represent the buttons.)

 

[Grey Belnades]

I won a ranked match against a 4th lord with an level 3 X-Factored She-Hulk and I got the most hilarious hate-mail in quite a while.

 

[GHNeko]

dem online scrubs

forever free

@Scamp: ****ing tekken notation. looooool. 1234 shiz i have yet to learn but god does it make me go "wat"

 

[o-Serin-o]

What the **** is a BnB?

 

[Savon]

Seriously? Level 3 X-Factored Sentinel is almost as bad as Dark Phoenix, if not worse. Especially with a lot of meter.

Also, swapping Sentinel in over X-23 is the best decision I've made regarding my team. Ever.

Sent? Son, I am disappoint

 

[Smooth Criminal]

What the **** is a BnB?

Bread and Butter. Like, standard fare combo.

Smooth Criminal

 

[_Dice]

Dice you're recommending Spencer's assist for when Phoenix gets snapped in? That's highly unconventional advice.

Also everyone saying you can just run away and play gay from a level 3 Sentinel just doesn't get it IMO. This only applies if you're winning by so much that he has to X-factor from far away. Otherwise he activates in the middle of a combo, kills whoever he's comboing, then sets up a situation where if you guess wrong you die. That's what makes Sent so effective as an anchor. Also he's not really a good point character.

But no way is he close to Dark Phoenix when it comes to level 3 X-factor.


As for number notation, I think GHNeko is correct in that people are just stubborn and don't want to put any effort into learning a new notation. For me I didn't really have a choice because I play lots of fighting games, so it's nice to have a notation that is effective for all games. (Except for Tekken, where 1,2,3,4 represent the buttons.)

i was reccomending spencer's angled wire grapple for whenever pheonix is on point, because you can call it out as a trap is going to hit the opponent, and pull them into a pheonix combo (or after a homing projectile ect) which can build a whole bar easily, so pretty much trap + that assist forces them to only jump and block otherwise a full combo + bar is gained for the pheonix player AND the combo ends with them far from pheonix again, with enough of an advantage to reset the traps. and get ready to do it again. pretty much that assist allows pheonix to be super safe on the ground on point and not just in the air.

and on top of that if pheonix dies, spencer can definitely use those bars and X factor to make a comeback of his own pretty easily.


and non X factor'd sentinel is hella easy to beat. so if he is not Xfactor'd then you can just kill sent while staying cautious enough to avoid the combo (which is not hard for a big target like sent). so yeah sentinel is a bad anchor i feel he needs an assist or X factor in order to get anything done, and X factor sent is easy to run from. so that is even dependant on the player against sent to screw up.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Bread and Butter. Like, standard fare combo.

Smooth Criminal

As in L > M > H > S ?

 

[_Dice]

As in L > M > H > S ?

Depends on the character.

for hulk it's cr.l, cr.m, S, a.m, a.m, a.h, a.s, dash, qcf super.

what you described is more of a basic chain than a bnb combo.


BnB combo's tend to be the most common and fairly easy combos a character does.

 

[Darky-Sama]

As in L > M > H > S ?

No, a lot of combos might consist of those though. Gotta think of it like an easy combo that a character may have which takes little to no effort to pull off. Pretty much character specific combos.