Marc and Xonar have yet to post.
If we must ml, then we must, but I'm not sure weather or not that's the best option.
As for your case, let me examine it here:
My answers are italicized.
@ermac: it must be the avi, right? or the name? maybe a combination of things... >.< Basically.... I am not a girl! Also I feel you've replaced into a tough spot because I need some answers thankyou very much =p sorry about that XP
here's my current analysis on your former self:
I've done a reread and yes dear mayling is standing out to me: this is not an overthought. may's reactions look genuine at surface level:- I only have a problem when you start factoring the contextual motives behind them, despite what vult has said in twilight.
firstly vult's interest in the extension: #430 / #373 which he was responsible for having been the prime suspect D2. this was a good move in hindsight... further discussion could have given him possibilities to escape the lynch. This is strictly an assumption but considering his situation, more time would have only been beneficial for him. I know about the request for a deadline extension. The deadline should've been extended, for I believe that one should be given time to defend their self before the lynch occurs. It was extended, right? In Vult's situation, more time would've given him the time to prepare his defense, and, being town, he could've had the possibility of saving himself. I'm not sure if you caught this, but Vult claimed after the lynch that he was planning on revealing his role to the town, which would've allowed us to narrow things down a day earlier than they have already. In this light, the extension would've been beneficial to not just Vult, but the townspeople.
May being accountable for ceasing that extension shouldn't be disregarded. I am fully aware of May shooting down Vult.
xiivi's votecount and may's hammer are not distant, this is significant because it goes against her naivety --> the votecounts were there, in her face and as such, signposted. This is quite true, because if I'm not mistaken, Vult was at L-1 for more than one vote count.
These factors lead me to think, (considering it was next-Day mylo at the time), the hammer did its job in placing town in a critical position and as such likely possibly from a scum perspective - it can be seen as an afforable risk to win toDay considering mylo.
The only issue here is whether this was a super hyper grave town error or scum-planned:- however: #472 is telling - the other twilight suggests otherwise - this twilight she doesn't effectively control the damage - instead further suspicion is incited: #487. Couple this with Vult's reads, who coincidentally never considered may a primary suspect D2, and this twilight would be the platform in which lots and lots of people are suddenly made suspicious and town once again becomes disoriented. I have yet to see someone who didn't know about the Twilight Period or the way it works, so post 472 is indeed scummy... This May person reminds me of my role in CSI Mafia, which I'm glad has been removed from the forum database.
#406 where is vult? why did I suddenly become a suspect despite her not alluding previously that she wanted me dead? I deliberately ignored this because I wanted to see if she developed on her suspects, but this wasn't the case.My belief is that May wasn't originally planning on voting for Vult, but that in a fit of sheer brilliance she decided to hop on the BW and didn't care enough about the game to realize that she was hammering.
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I don't know what to think of summoner dying btw =/ This has somewhat thrown me off because he was one of my suspects
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@chibo - elaboration on may/ermac vote would be nice
@ermac - good luck chuck it's defence time
@heat - opinions on this case please? you're interested in summoner wagoners, so are you also interested in vult wagoners? I always feel quite sketchy about you because of your empty reads that I feel don't lead to anywhere - I can't work out where your train of thought is.
@marc - same as chibo's question - also thoughts D2? I feel like we haven't seen much from you I'd like to hear a more elaborated opinion.
@xonar - same as heat's and marc's first questions respectively.
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so to make this clear!: my vote leans toward Ermac right now - I am open to being convinced otherwise.
Okay, so my theory on May is as follows, based on my own personal experiences as a noob in the past:
1- She was relatively inactive at the beginning, only occasionally posting random bits of fluff every now and then.
2- Eventually, she became slightly more active, enough that she was able to sneak by without being voted on for inactivity, yet still not really being part of the game.
3- Later, she realized that she was going to New York for a week (or whatever time it is), thus she knew that she would have to be replaced by the time she left. She knew that the game wouldn't end before then, so she began to lose interest in the game and where it was heading. Note that her posts fluctuate in length a bit over the course of the game, eventually returning to one-liners shortly before her departure.
4- Because of her loss in interest, she began to care less about the game, and couldn't keep track of what was going on any more, probably skimming pages here and there to "catch up".
5- When Vult became L-1, she was probably so far "out of it" that she wanted to just quit. She wouldn't want to quit, however, because in the case of the day continuing until the lynch, and in the case of a townie lynch, that would leave today on lylo. This would be because of her quitting, townie lynch, and night kill.
6- Instead, she would rather be replaced, but for some odd reason, decided to "accidentally" lynch Vult, then try to apologize and act all innocent to attempt to get people to sympathize with her, preventing her from being targeted the next day. This way, she figured, she could leave for New York and give the replacement a "clean start" the next day.
7- Of course, since this was the optimal outcome of her plan, and she just so happened to be living in her own warped fantasy, this meant that her plan was to fail miserably, which it did. After realizing that her plan sucked she was all like "wheeeeeeeeeeeeee..." and left to go to New York, not having to deal with the game anymore.
Of course, that's only my opinion on what happened, and I know that the truth may be much more mundane (she made a stupid mistake), or a bit... crazy. If I have time tomorrow, I'll find my post on Mafiascum where I... snapped, to show you guys what I mean.
I'm sorry if this isn't what you were looking for; I didn't have as much time writing this as I would've liked.
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