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[Spralwers]

I was simply countering your point-- top 9 at locals isn't a significant statistic to warrant being considered top 3 in the world. Top 9 at locals doesn't compare to top 3 or top 5 at locals, which doesn't really compare to top 9 at a national.

I wanna add to this. It's actually really important to compete against players from different regions. If you look at weeklies from different regions for instance, you often get different concentrations of characters at the top. Smashing Grounds, Xanadu, and Wavedash Wednesdays for instance have unique characters (and unique concentrations of characters) in their top 8. Each region has different concentrations of high level players playing different characters, so more than anything, performance at locals does need to be taken with a huge grain of salt when using that as evidence for being top in the world.

For instance, I went to Polybash at Montreal a while ago, and got 7th with Ganondorf fairly easily (all sets that I won, I won 2-0), and I was winning the vast majority of friendlies. However, at Smashing Grounds, I struggle to get top 10 and lose lots of friendlies. That's because at Montreal, I was mainly fighting characters that aren't crapshoots as Ganondorf: Mario, Kirby, Charizard, Wolf, Lucas, Roy, Snake, and a few others I'm forgetting. Yet at Smashing Grounds, there's tons of good Zeldas and Links, with a strong Ness and ZSS. These match ups are really annoying as Ganon.

If I actually had a Link that was on par with the average skill level of Link players here in New England, I definitely would've gotten 5th at polybash - I would've counterpicked Ivysaur (who knocked me out of losers') with Link and won, seeing as how my cousin (a strong Link player) bodied him and sent him to losers. It goes to show how important character selection can be.

There's so many viable characters and not every region has top level people playing each character. That's why regionals and nationals are so important - you have a much better representation of different characters being played by high level people. While I'm also totally with The NZA on the Wolf hype train, that's why I'm not actually trying to pass, as fact, that Wolf is a top 3 Link based on how well he is doing here at Smashing Grounds, even if he is facing KDJ and M2K.

 

[Oro?!]

Region location definitely makes a huge difference too. Top 3 at a local in a stacked place like Texas, Socal, Chicago, MD/VA is different than getting top 3 in Utah. (Sorry anyone from Utah)

 

[Hylian]

Hylian, I got respect for you. I think you are a really good player. You've played other good players and that's great--they vouch for your skill. I was simply countering your point-- top 9 at locals isn't a significant statistic to warrant being considered top 3 in the world. Top 9 at locals doesn't compare to top 3 or top 5 at locals, which doesn't really compare to top 9 at a national. Otherwise, I'm in complete agreement with you. If you placed in top 3 more often at the locals you do attend or do well at nationals, I can see why you belong on this list. But there are people fighting for recognition of their skill--people like Nick Riddle, Aero, etc.

With that said, I don't think you should be worried about losing the chance to teach players your style of link. You have a large fan base that likes your way of playing the character more than any other. Otherwise, your other option is to go to more tournaments and prove your style of play legitimately is a top 3 style in the world.

I place top 5 in every local I go to except the last one which I hosted >_>. I said the lowest I have *ever* placed was 9th, not that I normally place it. I generally lose to Strong Bad, Metroid, or Darkatma(best melee player in the midwest) and have traded sets with a couple of other players but overall I have a positive win record vs everyone else and almost always have very close tournament games with the people I lose to, which are recorded. When I travel(which isn't often but more often than any other Link player, I think I'm the only actual Link players to travel more than 5 hours out of their state aside from the chicago links just making the MD/VA trip and from Apex which no Link player did amazing in) I tend to do well and then lose to someone in my region like SB or atma in losers because they also do well. I do attend tournaments and I do place well(one every two months or so and 95% of the time I place top 5) I just don't attend frequently because tournaments don't get hosted here frequently and I have a busy life. I also don't think you can just look at tournament results to determine the best unless it's very obvious as then you have to compare the relative skill level of every person the players are beating and losing to and that tends to be very subjective. This is why it's good to watch how players perform against the same opponent but that happens rarely.

Players don't need this thread to earn recognition. I got it long before this thread existed, and so did the other top players of the characters.

Edit: Also just to be clear, I don't think I am the best Link atm lol.

 

[ELI-mination]

Region location definitely makes a huge difference too. Top 3 at a local in a stacked place like
Texas, Socal, Chicago, MD/VA
NY is different than getting top 3 in anywhere else . (Sorry anyone from anywhere else. )

Fixed

 

[Oro?!]

NY is free.

 

[ELI-mination]

Those are money match words :D

 

[Gallo69]

Life savings on Eli

 

[ELI-mination]

Roster battle!
But none of this puny $5 ****
At least $100 but preferably more

Show me how free NY is , Oro

 

[Strong Badam]

i always get top 3 at my locals put me on the olimar list

 

[Deleted member]

I got top 3 back to back recently in TX
can I be the best fox now?

 

[ELI-mination]

Nah because it's not NY

#wink

 

[Oro?!]

Yeah Eli I would throw down 100 for a roster battle should our paths meet.

 

[Oracle]

i'm pretty sure 100% of gallos posts on these boards are trash talk. i've only ever seen him speak whenever words get thrown around

 

[KayB]

Edit: Also just to be clear, I don't think I am the best Link atm lol.

Out of curiosity, who do you think is the best Link?

 

[Hylian]

Out of curiosity, who do you think is the best Link?

Internet Explorer6

 

[DMG]

It's definitely Dan (IE) without doubt. There are very few areas in Link's gameplay, that I see other players as legitimately better or more experienced in than IE. I think Hylian shows off more Bomb tricks and uses, but besides that IE looked pretty far ahead of everyone when it came to other areas. The man actually breathes the essence of Link, not just a Link Main Poser Projectile Loser Boomerang connoisseur afficionado lover tactician thrower.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

aero doesn't play link

PLEASE PEOPLE

yes i don't play link

oh wait

 

[Hylian]

It's definitely Dan (IE) without doubt. There are very few areas in Link's gameplay, that I see other players as legitimately better or more experienced in than IE. I think Hylian shows off more Bomb tricks and uses, but besides that IE looked pretty far ahead of everyone when it came to other areas. The man actually breathes the essence of Link, not just a Link Main Poser Projectile Loser Boomerang connoisseur afficionado lover tactician thrower.

I think IE has some stuff he could work on, most notably his recovery is pretty sub-par compared to the recovery Link is capable of but overall he just makes the best choices in neutral compared to other Link players and in the end that is what gets people the wins.

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

It's definitely Dan (IE) without doubt. There are very few areas in Link's gameplay, that I see other players as legitimately better or more experienced in than IE. I think Hylian shows off more Bomb tricks and uses, but besides that IE looked pretty far ahead of everyone when it came to other areas. The man actually breathes the essence of Link, not just a Link Main Poser Projectile Loser Boomerang connoisseur afficionado lover tactician thrower.

Lol DMG. <3 <3 <3

 

[The_NZA]

I think IE has some stuff he could work on, most notably his recovery is pretty sub-par compared to the recovery Link is capable of but overall he just makes the best choices in neutral compared to other Link players and in the end that is what gets people the wins.

I'd still put my money on Wolf over IE, but the Apex results speak for themselves.

BTW, we had 51 entrants at Smashing Grounds yesterday and M2K came in 1st, Wolf came in 2nd, and CT|Zero came in 3rd.

 

[Shadic]

But M2K whooped on Wolf, meanwhile IE can actually take games off M2K with P:M Link.

 

[DMG]

IE is *the* reason you see those M2K posts about Link being OP. Ever wondered why he thinks that? He plays IE a lot

 

[The_NZA]

But M2K whooped on Wolf, meanwhile IE can actually take games off M2K with P:M Link.

I mean, Wolf beat M2k's Fox in friendlies. He just couldn't handle that Mario.

*shrugs*

There's evidence to prove Wolf is just as capable. But like I said, current results speak for themselves.

 

[Hashtag]

Region location definitely makes a huge difference too. Top 3 at a local in a stacked place like Texas, Socal, Chicago, MD/VA is different than getting top 3 in Utah. (Sorry anyone from Utah)

Not to mention a number of other places like AZ too. High skill, knowledge concentration areas. Not to mention, socal/az can and do attend each others tourneys pretty often. Same scenario with NY/MD/VA

 

[Oro?!]

Yeah I didn't want to exclude any strong area, I'm just Chicago biased obviously.

 

[The_NZA]

MA will be the biggest scene. You have no idea what my amateurish TO powers are capable of.

WITH MINE AND MATTDOTZEB's POWERS COMBINED! WE ARE CAPTAIN SMASHET

 

[Kaeldiar]

So how long until we can safely call Darky a top Sonic? I don't think you can say much with one showing, but DAMN what a showing

 

[The_NZA]

So how long until we can safely call Darky a top Sonic? I don't think you can say much with one showing, but DAMN what a showing

Vids? I'd love to see a top sonic.

 

[Empyrean]

Can't check it myself now, but hasn't CT uploaded the Collision vids yet? Darky made it to grand finals vs M2K and lost to shine, but swept through all the others there.

 

[Zerudahime]

yup, darky is definitely top sonic for sure for 3.02.
he was top sonic in 2.6 even imo.
its funny that people ignore playerbase until they actually do something then people say :o!
research ppl!!! <3

 

[Strong Badam]

yes

doing things in offline tournament puts you on the map, not on wifi/friendlies

this is fairly intuitive

 

[Zerudahime]

Its called making observations and being in touch with the community as a whole.
NOT select individuals.

 

[Deleted member]

Nogh for best fox, I saw him play wifi and beat darky a few times

 

[Zerudahime]

again, missing the point entirely.
going back into my cave now.

 

[Deleted member]

? I don't know what you're talking about
Nogh is the best fox

 

[Deleted member]

Life savings on Eli

usually for a money match we have a $5 minimum

 

[DLA]

Just want to put my name in for Diddy Kong, I think my placings definitely warrant it. For example I got 5th/40 this week at a stacked Chicago local. I've beaten quite a few people on this list, notably Rat whom I've taken at least 3 sets from in the past few months. I'm sure there are at least a few people in this thread right now that could vouch for my fruit flinging prowess.

 

[Wolf_]

But M2K whooped on Wolf, meanwhile IE can actually take games off M2K with P:M Link.

To be fair, I played Link in only 1 match, after that I just didn't care and chose secondaries, I shouldn't have played friendlies with M2K earlier lol, I took his Mewtwo to last stock with Link, beat his Fox, then he picked Mario and chaingrabbed the crap out me and saw it was free, it's not like I haven't taken games off him before, but I honestly don't care much if I'm on this list or not anyways

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

3 out of _?

 

[KayB]

Can't check it myself now, but hasn't CT uploaded the Collision vids yet? Darky made it to grand finals vs M2K and lost to shine, but swept through all the others there.

They haven't uploaded anything yet.