Tom Nook for SSBB: Far from Deconfirmed.

[Fawriel]

I love your brain. That's the same kind of stuff that I look for, and while I didn't pick up on it in AC, I still think it's awesome that someone did. Kudos to you for being awesome!

I agree on pretty much every conceivable level.

It's also exactly the reason why Nook is perfect.
Because he's cute and an EVIL GENIUS!

And in any Melee stage does a series get represented without a character from that series been playable?

Nope, but that doesn't matter because Melee is not nearly as huge in content as Brawl will apparently be. Brawl can afford to have tons of stages without a playable rep.
We did get, for example, Lip's Stick without anything else from Panel de Pon, though.

 

[VivaLaPuff]

Animal Crossing is a game with no physical conflicts. You might as well take something from one of those Brain Age games and stick it in.

 

[Card]

I'm still surprised that people are so skeptical. Am I in the minority by thinking that Nook is almost guaranteed at this point? Chibi's arguments were wonderful (hi Chibs!), and I think we should all reread them. Kero brought up similar points in another thread. Should Nook make it in, I'm definitely posting "I told you so".

Thanks.

I just thought I would add another argument to add on to my post to strengthen it even further.


I would like you all to take a look at this;

This is the Falcon Crest from the F-Zero Series.
Now we know from Smash Melee that this is the Symbol for Captain Falcon. We also know that in Smash Brawl that this is the Symbol for Samurai Goro. Continuing along this train of though, it is safe to assume that the Falcon Crest is the Symbol which will Represent the F-Zero Franchise.

BUT... It's not an ordinary symbol which could be used to represent a multitude of characters, like a Pokeball (for Pokemon), or a Mushroom (for Mario Franchise). it's the FALCON Crest.... its a direct correlation with Captain Falcon.

Now I will refer you all to Pomfrod's post

I would rather say, "Because leaves are so central to Tanuki folklore, they became Tom Nook's symbol." Then it follows that, "Because Tom Nook is so central to Animal Crossing, his symbol and Animal Crossing's symbol are the same."

The exact same can be said about F-Zero how... "Because Captain Falcon is so central to F-Zero, his symbol and F-Zero's symbol are the same"

Which will bring me to my two points;

1. Would you not find it extremely strange if they used the Leaf Symbol to Represent the Animal Crossing Franchise, but NOT to represent Tom Nook whom is actually where the symbol is derived from?
   
2. Would you not find it extremely strange if they used the Falcon Crest to Represent the F-Zero Franchise, but NOT to represent Captain Falcon whom is actually where the symbol is derived from?

Seems totally strange to me. Just think about it... It's like; Why would they use the Falcon Crest to represent F-Zero, but not include Captain Falcon... or Why would they use Yoshi Egg to represent Yoshi, but no include Yoshi... It makes no sense whatsoever... Following this logic, its the same for Animal Crossing. Why would they use the Tanuki Leaf to represent Animal Crossing, but not include Tom Nook.



Because of these reasons, and the reasons I mentioned earlier, I feel that Tom Nook is going to be a playable character for Smash Brawl. Either that, or Animal Crossing will get no playable character, and they'll just a Stage dedicated entirely to the series.

(and the best counter argument for Mr. Resetti is.... he can't jump lol)

 

[NukeA6]

Animal Crossing is a game with no physical conflicts. You might as well take something from one of those Brain Age games and stick it in.

Mr. Resetti does look violent.

 

[jimmysilverrims]

I thought he'd kill me when I reset for the twelth time. That Pickaxe looks pretty sharp.

 

[Caael]

And in any Melee stage does a series get represented without a character from that series been playable?

Yoshi's island, because Kamek wasn't included.

Lulz joking.

That was a good point actually. And for the current Brawl levels, they all have a rep character.

Lulz, Resetti for Brawl.

Joking.

Nook for Brawl!

 

[Tbacksha]

Could a few people fill this out so I can get an average?

Ok, if Nooks chances were ??% before. The inclusion of him in a stage reduces his chance by about ??%, but the fact that the stage has a symbol and that it is an exact match to the symbol on his apron that should increase his chances by about ??%. To roughly ??%

All reasonable people here agree that Nook is not 100% confirmed or 0% unconfirmed, right.

 

[Pomfrod]

Because of these reasons, and the reasons I mentioned earlier, I feel that Tom Nook is going to be a playable character for Smash Brawl. Either that, or Animal Crossing will get no playable character, and they'll just have a Stage dedicated entirely to the series.

Dead-on. All this has summarily proven that Nintendo and Sora both view Nook as the central character to the franchise, so if anyone makes it in, it will first and foremost be Nook.

And to Fawriel--The point about Panel de Pon is a good one, as it makes a precedent for a non-character inclusion to represent a franchise. (even though one of Kirby's Stone transformations was also from PdP.) We're at an impass; either this bodes very well for Nook or very badly. And if he's an unlockable character, which seems quite possible, we may not know his fate until close to release.

[And on the subject of thematic video game theories, as Aeris and Fawriel commented on, there's more where that came from. I have moderately cohesive ideas about Kirby, StarFox, and Metroid and the intent behind the story and design. Here's not the place for it, but if someone wants to create a topic, PM me and I'll dive in.]

 

[Fawriel]

Chibi, if you're female, I will immediately move to Canada.

That is purely an expression of respect. I think.

Ok, if Nooks chances were ??% before. The inclusion of him in a stage reduces his chance by about ??%, but the fact that the stage has a symbol and that it is an exact match to the symbol on his apron that should increase his chances by about ??%. To roughly ??%

Before: 40%
Stage: -30%
Icon: +45%

Total: ~55%


EDIT: @Pomfrod: Bring it on! That sounds like a really enjoyable read, and I'm actually not one who likes reading long texts. If it will be long anyway. Which I hope!

 

[Card]

Chibi, if you're female, I will immediately move to Canada.

That is purely an expression of respect. I think.

I'm not.... lol... but thanks for the comment.. I think?

 

[SmashYou6666]

Someone find me a better symbol to represent the AC series. If there aren't any, it might means that the leaf symbol is probably the best they could find and that it doesn't necessairly mean that TOM NOOK will be THE probable AC character to represent the series. Tom Nook is one of the center character of that game, so they probably decided to put the leaf as the symbol just to represent AC series as a whole.

Anyway, see my sig.

*Disclamer* DO NOT COME UNLEASH YOUR ANGER AT ME AFTER READING MY SIG, I REPEAT, DO NOT COME UNLEASH YOUR ANGER AT ME AFTER READING MY SIG

 

[Chidosengan]

You've notice that Tom Nook is in the background of the Animal Crossing stage right?



Tom Nook =/= playable.

Thank god.

 

[EggBomb]

The stage chances based on the time it's played.

Look at the first few screen shots, there is a car on the stage, but in one of the next screen shots the Coffee shop replaces the car. Either when you select the level the set up of it is based on the time it is picked or the characters actually change the level as time passes. Considering the level changes why is it so hard to believe that Nook could be removed from the stage when unlocked?

 

[DGK all day]

We can only let time tell

 

[Hiemie]

I thought you guys would appreciate this.

 

[Cubelarooso]

Why does Kirby have teeth?

 

[Hiemie]

He copied the powers of some chatter teeth.

 

[ClarkJables]

nice........

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

I thought you guys would appreciate this.

In light of recent events, I think that this pic is more suitable...

Image by nwootters.

 

[Darkfur]

You've notice that Tom Nook is in the background of the Animal Crossing stage right?



Tom Nook =/= playable.

Thank god.

Chido, Did you even read the topic? :/

That doesn't prove anything at all! It's very easy for him to Not show up in the background if he's selected as a fighter.

We won't know for sure until the following:

A: He appears on the Dojo as a Newcomer or even an Assist Trophy.

B: The game comes out and he's not selectable.

 

[Starmanclock]

We are going to recieve a character from Animal Crossing because of the logo. Plus this stage looks very flexable, and will change on who is playing or what time it is.

 

[Link'sShadow]

The stage chances based on the time it's played.

Look at the first few screen shots, there is a car on the stage, but in one of the next screen shots the Coffee shop replaces the car. Either when you select the level the set up of it is based on the time it is picked or the characters actually change the level as time passes. Considering the level changes why is it so hard to believe that Nook could be removed from the stage when unlocked?

Wow wouldn't it be awsome if you set up an extremely long fight (99 stock battle) and just kept fighting as the level slowly changed.

 

[Zootematix]

Am I the only one who sees this? That isn't Tom Nook on the stage, just merely another Animal Crossing character who happens to be a racoon. Please look at what Tom Nook's attire is comprised of:

And now please look at the animal in this picture. Clearly it isn't Tom Nook.

As soon as I saw the Animal Crossing logo it pretty much confirmed it for me that Tom Nook is in the game as a playable character. Do you really think that they would pass up the obvious choice for someone like Mr. Resetti?

 

[JesterBox]

I was trying to find some info since I don't play AC and found this.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TECX4GKe1aw

@Zootematix, thats Tom different threads

Why is Tom so cool I don't get it.

 

[the grim lizard]

Why why why why why...did you have to bring this discussion back again??

And @ Zootematix, There is only one brown racoon with an apron in the game if you play it. I really wish people would stop bringing up the whole "they could make him disappear if you're playing as him." Ain't gonna happen so get over it.

*sigh*

 

[Darkfur]

Why why why why why...did you have to bring this discussion back again??

And @ Zootematix, There is only one brown racoon with an apron in the game if you play it. I really wish people would stop bringing up the whole "they could make him disappear if you're playing as him." Ain't gonna happen so get over it.

*sigh*

I really wish people would stop acting as if they know everything. It really reflects stupidity when you state something as fact when you have no proof.

It's POSSIBLE. That's all that was said.

 

[Shuma]

I just whant to know why he would be a good adition to the roster.

 

[Citrussed]

But isnt he in the background of the smashville level?

 

[The Mark]

Wow, off topic much?

 

[the grim lizard]

I really wish people would stop acting as if they know everything. It really reflects stupidity when you state something as fact when you have no proof.

It's POSSIBLE. That's all that was said.

Gee, thanks for calling me stupid.

First, I never stated anything as a fact; so get a clue. Second, I'm pretty darn SURE Sakurai MEANT for us to see Tom Nook in the background. Don't you find it convenient that all of the characters showing up are Goroh, Tom Nook, Deoxys, etc...I think he's giving us subtle...or not-so-subtle hints that characters AREN'T going to be in.

 

[L_Cancel]

There is an alternative to Tom Nook, that I think many Animal Crossing players may like. Tommy and Timmy are the two little raccoons found upstairs, after the store is upgraded completely. They could function as a pair similar to the ICs. They could still have all of the movesets that Tom Nook could of had, since they also work in the store. Now that we have seen Tom Nook in the background, Timmy and Tommy seem far more likely.

 

[DGK all day]

In light of recent events, I think that this pic is more suitable...

Image by nwootters.

Holy s**t that scared the S**t out of me!

 

[jimmysilverrims]

Little does the Animal Crosser suspect, but Officer Copper is right behind him with a gun.

 

[Darkfur]

Gee, thanks for calling me stupid.

First, I never stated anything as a fact; so get a clue. Second, I'm pretty darn SURE Sakurai MEANT for us to see Tom Nook in the background. Don't you find it convenient that all of the characters showing up are Goroh, Tom Nook, Deoxys, etc...I think he's giving us subtle...or not-so-subtle hints that characters AREN'T going to be in.

I said it reflects stupidity. We all haved stupid moments. And don't worry, you aren't the only one whose been reflecting stupidity lately, so don't take it personally.

Sakurai also likes to throw us for loops. We really can't tell for sure till A: The game comes out and we see for sure he isn't. or B: He ends up as a Newcommer.

And Finally. You CLEARLY said it "Ain't gonna happen." like you knew for sure. Not "It PROBABLY ain't gonna happen."

So Yes, yes you did state something as a fact.

--

My stance on Nook is that I kinda think he'd be cool, but I really don't care either way. I do like the Timmy and Tommy idea somewhat, but Animal Crossing Human did appear on Sakurai's poll so...

 

[3.14]

I'm pretty darn SURE Sakurai MEANT for us to see Tom Nook in the background. Don't you find it convenient that all of the characters showing up are Goroh, Tom Nook, Deoxys, etc...I think he's giving us subtle...or not-so-subtle hints that characters AREN'T going to be in.

Although you are correct about him de-confirming playable characters, there's one thing most people seem to be overlooking. Although Tom Nook is in the background of his stage, it is still an Animal Crossing stage.

And if there's an animal crossing stage, there must be animal crossing representation. There are no stages without a character to represent them other than final destination and Battlefield which are special smash stages (i know it's called smashville but its obviously AC)

There is no better choice than Tom Nook he is the most recognizable other then the main character whom i believe is too generic. Game and watch is in the background of his stage, falco and falcon are technically in the background of their stages. Tom could easily just not appear in the background while he's there, or even cooler, he could jump out of the background if u pick him. Also timmy and tommy suck.

PS - My previous name was Dantedemonslayr I've been a nook supporter for a while now i just updated my name to my smash name i use in tourneys and whatnot.

 

[Pieman0920]

La di da~

*Tom Nook does not have a recovery B move. Instead he floats much like Tanuki Mario did in SMB3, for about the same duration as Kirby does*

Neutral B: TN takes out a random item from inside his apron. Any item can come out of it, but TN can’t pull a second one until the other one disappears. He can exchange the item by pressing B again, putting what he has in his hand into his apron, and pulling out something new. If his one item is thrown, and still there, when he presses B, nothing happens, except Nook struggling through the pockets of his apron for a second. When pulled out, it automatically is equipped to him. This process of course takes a bit of time, so it leaves Nook open.

Forward B: Another Tanuki Mario inspired idea, in which TN spins around, like Mario did, with his tail out. As this move was the predecessor to the cape, the move does similar things, but not all the kinks have been worked out. For instance, if a projectile hits TN while spinning, Tom will direct it either through him, upwards, or back at the opponent. If Tom Nook hits the opponent with the tail though, they will simply take damage, instead of facing the opposite direction, so it’s not good for edge guarding.

Up B: Tom Nook throws a balloon with a exploding present on it into the air. The balloon will float overhead, and if a opponent is below it, it will pop, and drop its bomb causing it to explode. If the opponent tries to hit it in air, the bomb will go off also. The balloons stay above indefinitely, if no opponent goes under them, but TN can only set up two at a time. There is a 10% chance that the present will actually have a item inside of it, instead of a bomb.

Down B: Timmy and Tommy appear in front of Tom Nook, and rush whatever is in front of them. If it is a opponent, they will not damage them, but they will forcibly push the opponent away from Nook. If close to an edge, the twins can push the opponent right off. The twins will never fall off though, instead stopping at the very edge, and then disappearing.

Final Smash: A very cinematic-esque attack, Tom Nook, throws large replications of several AC tools, such as the fishing rod, shovel, axe, ect, at whatever direction they are facing. The opponents will not only be hurt by this, but if the tools hits the opponent, TN at the end will bill them, proportionate anything they “damaged” (got hit with) This causes the opponents to be dazed for a short time, opening them up to a attack.

 

[Meta_Owns_Ur_Dad]

Heres a moveset = )

B- Tom Nook flings opponents with his shovel.
B>- Swings an axe and a shockwave blasts out.
Bv- Pulls out some of his merchandise and can throw it.
B^- Spins upward hitting people with his tail, and shoots upward.

And for his throws he can use the fishing rod to hook people and reel'em in and heabutt'em! xD

 

[Got Blood?]

Tom Nook would be awesome for Brawl.Perfect character type, too.

 

[Hejiru]

His final smash could be tons of items falling from the sky.

I think K.K. Slider is a more likely suspect for Brawl.

 

[3.14]

Why did two people make movesets when he already has one on the first page complete with illustrations?

PS _ Nook for Brawl