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Toad parade - Oh boy it's Els--- I mean, Rosalina

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Arcadenik

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I didn't think of it that way either, but at the same time I didn't think it was that much of a problem to have two Toad, one playable and the other Peach's neutral B.
It is a problem in Sakurai's eyes.

Toon Link cannot be both a playable character and a stage element at the same time even though they are two different Toon Links from different time periods. That's why we have the Alfonzo meme in the first place. :rolleyes:

But we shouldn't expect Peach to pull out Toadsworth out of her ??? any time soon...
 

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I still think this vision is strange.

After all, if everyone wants to play as Peach, that makes four Peach on the battlefield.

And I was going to say that Toon Link's case was different because he's unique, but if you use four Toon Link in a FFA, the logic is already thrown out of the window.

But you're right, it's his vision after all. And that sucks for us, Toad fans. :/
 

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Weirder than the two Links is that Zero Suit Samus can now fight regular Samus in their default official costumes...so two Samus'(same person) on screen at once=fine, two Toon Links(different people)=bad, two Ice Climbers=standard.

On topic; two Toads is technically feasible(and makes a lot more sense than two Samus') but is pretty unlikely. Bit of a shame, but if we do get that Captain Toad spinoff, I feel a little more confident in his chances for the next game...as Captain Toad. Which honestly suits me fine.
 

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I'd be okay with captain toad, I like his design.
 

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I'm still supporting Toad for Smash.

But I'm waiting for a Toad-themed Wiimote.

C'mon Nintendo.
 

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Y'know... I've given Toad a lot of crap in the past...

But I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of him being playable.

I'm not sure how he'd play, but his spot is well-deserved.
 

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Y'know... I've given Toad a lot of crap in the past...

But I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of him being playable.

I'm not sure how he'd play, but his spot is well-deserved.
Like I've said before; Toad is the most iconic Nintendo character to not be playable in SSB already. He deserves the spot for that reason alone.
 

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Like I've said before; Toad is the most iconic Nintendo character to not be playable in SSB already. He deserves the spot for that reason alone.
Unfortunately, many think Toad isn't fully-fleshed out enough to be his own character. I mean, I personally think he's pretty well-developed having his own attributes and characteristics, but I guess you can't please everyone.

That being said, I can see Nintendo doing some pretty fun things with Toad. I can't see anyone else that is yet to be announced being a better representative of the main series (being playable more than any other Mario character besides the Mario Bros. in the platformers) and the spin-offs (one of the most popular Mario Kart racers and party attenders) than Toad.
 

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if toad ever gets into smash i want this as an alternate costume

Some games, characters can breathe in outer space... Some games, characters cannot breathe in outer space... That's Nintendo logic.
 

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Whatever he wears, Toad always manages to stay sexy. :smirk:
I'm torn between Tanooki Toad and Cat Toad... I like how cute Toad looks in both costumes... but I think I'll pick Tanooki Toad simply because it is very versatile... I mean, that's why the Tanooki Suit is one of my favorite power-ups in SMB3 (even though Toad isn't playable in it).

I have always mentioned that I would like Toad's own game to be similar to Wonder Boy in Monster World and Super Adventure Island II... but recently I've been playing Dragon's Curse (TG16 version of Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap)... I realized that maybe that's how Toad's own game should be like...

Captain Toad travels around the Mushroom Kingdom, visiting different towns inhabited by various generic species... they give Toad a power-up suit based on their respective species... Bees at the beehive town give Toad the Bee Suit... Cats at the cat tower town give Toad the Cat Suit... Boos at the haunted mansion give Toad the Boo Suit... Tanookis at the treetop town give Toad the Tanooki Suit... Frogs at the tadpole pond give Toad the Frog Suit... but Toad has his own abilities without the suits such as picking up vegetables/enemies and walking on walls.

That would be pretty fun to play around with the power-up suits in a Metroidvania game that takes place in the Mushroom Kingdom.
 

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Toad may not be in Smash, but they seem to be everywhere in Mario Kart 8. If this is official.
Also, they seem to represent Mario Kart TV (the new online feature).

 

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Just wondering, What would be your reaction if toadsworth gets in?
I would feel indignant. Pikachu fans get Pikachu, not a Pikachu named Sparky. Yoshi fans get Yoshi, not a Yoshi named Boshi. I want Toad, not a Toad named Toadsworth.

Regarding Toads in Mario Kart 8... it's nice to see Toads everywhere... though it is probably a good thing we didn't get Blue Toad, Baby Toad, or even Cat Toad as separate characters in Mario Kart 8. The last thing Toad needs is more hate from fans even though it would have been nice for Nintendo to give more attention to Toad... but Toadsworth would have been nice at the least. It is one more Toad to the roster but he is not a different version of Toad... unlike Baby Rosalina and Pink Gold Peach.
 

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Just wondering, What would be your reaction if toadsworth gets in?
"Why isn't he Peach's B move? I mean he is her GUARDian after all." followed by "Is bald faced, young red spots Toad an alt?" most likely.
In all fairness I do quite like Toadsworth(first character I tried on Super Sluggers), but I feel Captain Toad is closer to what I'm after when it comes to Smash.

Getting Toadsworth in Mario Kart however would probably be preferable to Metal/Dry/Baby versions. Although I guess one could say Toadsworth is Dry Old Toad.

Gotta feel for the Bowser Jr. fans; 7 Koopalings and Bowser himself but no Jr.

Diddy fans too. Screwed by the likes of Baby Daisy and Baby Rosalina being chosen over him and Jr. in the lightweight category.
 
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I don't remember young Rosalina having platinum blonde hair

but **** it. It's not canon even though it's irksome at the very most and all the babies, despite my hate for them, actually stay faithful to how they actually looked

Yeaaaah

Most of my Rosalina fan friends raged negatively about it. The biggest ones I know was feeling negative. BUT WHO CARES, no one buys Mario Kart for the roster!

Wait a minu--- Diddy's not in? Jr's rejected again? What the ****?

Ah well, I'm sure the gameplay, features, courses and kart designs will make up for the abominable roster we currently know

*cringe*
 
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I don't remember young Rosalina having platinum blonde hair

but **** it. It's not canon even though it's irksome at the very most and all the babies, despite my hate for them, actually stay faithful to how they actually looked

Yeaaaah

Most of my Rosalina fan friends raged negatively about it. The biggest ones I know was feeling negative. BUT WHO CARES, no one buys Mario Kart for the roster!

Wait a minu--- Diddy's not in? Jr's rejected again? What the ****?

Ah well, I'm sure the gameplay, features, courses and kart designs will make up for the abominable roster we currently know

*cringe*
I guess there's always DLC as an option now. Maybe Nintendo's being a sneaky jerk and purposely left poor old Diddy and Jr out based on the knowledge that people WILL pay for them?

Or maybe they just didn't bother and this is the final roster anyway. Oh well; The Mario Kart 8(Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Bowser, Wario and DK) are all in and I don't mind the Koopalings getting the odd playable appearance.

I know I was banking on Nabbit being a character. Honestly surprised he's not.
 

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The title of this thread reminds me of My Chemical Romance's "Black Parade"

Toad is being all emo about his deconfirmation

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"When I was a young spore,
Mycelium took me into the kingdom
To see a marching band.

He said, "Son when you grow up,
would you be the saviour of the broken,
the beaten and the damned?"
He said "Will you defeat them,
your Koopas, and all of Bowser's Minions,
the plans that they have made?"
"Because one day I'll leave you,
A Big Boo to lead you in the summer,
To join The Toad Parade."
 
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I don't know anyone who buys Mario Kart games for the characters... for me, for some reason I care more about race courses than characters in Mario Kart games... but that's not to say I don't care about the roster... just as long as I can play as my mains: Toad, Yoshi, and Peach. Always preferred playing as them since the SNES game. But I kinda wanted to play as Nabbit, Toadsworth, and Pauline in Mario Kart 8... oh well, maybe for Mario Kart 9... oh, and the 10th game absolutely must be named "Mario Kart X" no questions asked. It just sounds awesome, okay? :awesome:

But with SSB games, I care about characters more than other stuff that I also care about... like stages, items, Assist Trophies, Pokemon, and bosses... mainly because I see the SSB roster as something prestigious... the highest honor Nintendo characters (and third party characters) can achieve... the roster slots in Smash are even more precious than the roster slots in Mario Kart. Honestly, it lost meaning when they started giving slots to Metal/Baby/Dry versions of existing characters haphazardly... beginning with Mario Kart Wii. :rolleyes:

Just because Metal Mario is unofficially deconfirmed with the confirmation of the Metal Box item doesn't mean Gold Mario is out of the rat race.
 

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Just because Metal Mario is unofficially deconfirmed with the confirmation of the Metal Box item doesn't mean Gold Mario is out of the rat race.
Well hopefully Metal Mario DOES return to SSB...as the mini boss he's always been. Hell, you can throw Pink Gold Peach in there for that too if you really have to.

Gold Mario...oh god. Alt outfit plz if he has to be anything.

Maybe SSB can take a note from Mario Kart for their Multiman modes;

FIGHTING METAL DRY BABY ALLOYS

(or polygon, wireframes or whatever the ***** they call them this time. I'm betting on either Puppets or Rigs)

...what if the multimans are ATs and NPCs in Smash...including Toad?
 

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Pink Gold Peach?

That's pretty random, especially considering all the possible characters available from places like the spin-offs and even characters from sub-franchises like Mona and Syrup.
 

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If Toadsworth made it instead of Toad, I would be pretty disappointed, but since I like Toadsworth, it wouldn't be horrifying.

I have a feeling next Mario Kart we'll get Metal Dark Fire Tanooki Baby Rosalina or something probably as ****ty. The last two reveals, honestly... Pink Gold Peach, I don't mind that much, it's just an opportunity to play as a fat Peach (but she doesn't really look that Peach to be fair). However, the babies infuriate me. But are we sure the roster for Mario Kart 8 is final ? I mean, it's strange to have all seven Koopalings and not Junior. I'm hoping we are not stuck with only 30 characters, that way I will still be able to play as Birdo.

I mean, Birdo, Junior and Diddy, they should be in it. Not Baby Daisy or Baby Rosalina. I hate the babies. Why not good characters, like Petey, Pauline (oh my gosh, I would love to play as Pauline, why isn't she back in the newer Mario games ?!), Dixie (I mean, we got Funky before Dixie ? Lolwut ?), Boo, etc...

Only Wendy interests me out of all newcomers...
 

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I wanted Fawful for MK8. He would have been awesome. Pauline, Dixie, all good ideas. But no.
We got complete [EXPLETIVE STREAM CENSORED] like pink gold peach. *sigh*
 

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Hey, I got some playable Koopalings. I've been after that since Super Mario Bros. 3 so I'm not TOO disappointed, I'm just bummed we got crappy OCs like Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Metal Mario(why is he his own thing again? We don't have any other power up as a standalone character) and Pink Gold Peach instead of Diddy, Jr(to finish off the Bowser squad), Nabbit and E. Gadd. Can you even imagine E. Gadd? Glorious!
 

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Hey, I got some playable Koopalings. I've been after that since Super Mario Bros. 3 so I'm not TOO disappointed, I'm just bummed we got crappy OCs like Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Metal Mario(why is he his own thing again? We don't have any other power up as a standalone character) and Pink Gold Peach instead of Diddy, Jr(to finish off the Bowser squad), Nabbit and E. Gadd. Can you even imagine E. Gadd? Glorious!
Yeah, playable Koopalings make up for the babies and metals. Still wish Nintendo would go back to putting Petey in all the spinoffs.
 

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how did this become the mario kart 8 thread?

anyway im all for bizarre racers but they of gone for better odd choices like whittles and gearmos
 

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If I were responsible for a Mario Kart roster, I would have refrained from including Baby/Dry/Metal versions of existing characters and I would have included the following characters:


10 Feather Weight Characters
Ana
Kat
Koopa Troopa
Luma
Noki
Shy Guy
Sprixie Princess
Toad
Toadette
Toadsworth

10 Light Weight Characters
9-Volt
Birdo
Cranky Kong
Daisy
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
Pauline
Peach
Rex
Yoshi

10 Medium Weight Characters
Ashley
Bowser Jr.
Captain Syrup
Luigi
Mario
Mona
Nabbit
Orbulon
Professor E. Gadd
Stanley

10 Cruiser Weight Characters
Boom Boom
Donkey Kong Jr.
Jimmy T.
Kamek
Lubba
Pianta
Pom Pom
Rosalina
Waluigi
Wiggler

10 Heavy Weight Characters
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Funky Kong
Honey Queen
King Boo
King K. Rool
Mike
Petey Piranha
Plessie
Wario
 

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Eh I'm fine with Baby Mario, Baby Luigi and Baby Peach, at least they have got a few other appearances down over the years. Baby Daisy and Baby Rosalina is taking this whole Baby shtick a bit too far though. The Pink Gold Peach was a little unnecessary too....

Anyway, aren't we getting a little off-topic in here? ^^;
 

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Anyway, aren't we getting a little off-topic in here? ^^;
Kinda hard to stay on topic when it's been nearly 5 months since Sakurai crucified Toad on the altar of Rosalina. :skull:

Not to mention Sakurai didn't even tease Toad fans like they did with Ridley fans and Palutena fans at the Smash Direct... :(
 

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I don't think he was really "teasing" Ridley (Well not in a positive sense for them at least). Palutena I guess so.

Well yeah, I'm just trying to do my mod duties and all. Just try and keep it a bit more on Toad if you can.................. ^^;

Has it already been 5 months though? Gosh time sure flies. :/
 
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Ohmigosh, those spacesuit Toads... They're so cute. I love them.
 

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It is a problem in Sakurai's eyes.

Toon Link cannot be both a playable character and a stage element at the same time even though they are two different Toon Links from different time periods. That's why we have the Alfonzo meme in the first place. :rolleyes:

But we shouldn't expect Peach to pull out Toadsworth out of her ??? any time soon...
You say that but Sakurai wasn't afraid to make Dr. Mario a separate character from Mario in Melee.
 

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You say that but Sakurai wasn't afraid to make Dr. Mario a separate character from Mario in Melee.
Do we have to remember Dr. Mario...it's almost as bad as Pink Gold Peach.

Who has no point of existence...at least Metal Mario was in Super Mario 64.
 
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