You also missed the entire point of me bringing Shadow Moses up.
If DDD's infinite on Shadow Moses is so unfair that it needs the stage removed, why is the Marth infinite on Ness/Lucas (which is even easier to do) fair game?
If the Marth infinite is banned, then why not DDD's wall infinite? Because it's preventable.
Whether or not either is easier to perform, based on your opinion of button input the same effect is going to happen. We can do what we can to prevent this, whether it be stage bans or otherwise it is still preventable by your own actions.
Like i've said, if this happens in one match, and you carry on playing Ness or Lucas it is a risk you take for allowing that particular match-up.
Opinion and sensationalism.
Camping is not some evil word.
There's plenty of reasons people hate Hyrule, but stages don't get banned because people piss and moan about them. The only justified reason Hyrule got banned was because Fox was unbeatable by everyone except Fox himself, Falcon and Pichu. Well ****, that'd be an awesome competitive scene.
Hyrule has no bearing in this argument, you're just using it to try and justify your (bias) opinion.
How can you claim that camping isn't so bad, then complain about it 2 sentences down in the same paragraph.
Using two extremeties of the same technique, saying one is acceptable and the other is not is not a viable argument.
Camping is tournament legal, and yes it will piss people off. But it can again be prevented/dealt with.
By your reasoning, why shouldn't FD be banned for Fox because he can just runaround shooting and evading.
That's because no one played SSB64, so no one gave a ****.
Bashing the game that paved the way for melee and brawl is simple selfishness and ignorance on your part.
64 is like melee is to brawl, people prefer certain features over others.
Your opinion is nothing.
Also, to reply to Frost: DK's lift onto his back did 7-8% each aswell as the fact that you can walk around (i.e down to Hyrules green hut to finish with an upsmash)
Softbanning is a common occurence in fighting game scenes, such as 'Old' Sagat in ST. It's not an 'official' ruling, or something that needs 'named'. The majority just doesn't do whatever it is because it diminishes the game. Whether you want to be the wiener that chooses to demonstrate your skill by mashing Z one handed with your eyes shut is entirely your call, hence a 'soft' ban and not an actual, official ban.
Which was entirely my point, that you obviously overlooked.
Why moan about whether this technique will be 'softbanned' or 'frowned upon' in a better sense of wording, when you know that people aren't going to accept it as a skillful technique.
Naming an occurence that is an obvious happening sounds like a feasable attempt at gratifying your knowledge of this game, and your superiority/know-it-all mindset that you think you have so stop moaning.
You are entirely free to your own opinion, however don't come in here bashing people like Frost's reasonings and intelligent opinions on game specifics.
Especially when you've had no say in the UK smash metagame in a couple of years (if at all)
Let's get this back on topic, if you have another problem with it with viable reasoning rather than opinionated banter, do so in another thread.
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