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Tier List Speculation
- Thread starter OkamiBW
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Nazo
Smash Journeyman
Jiggs is fun to play though lol. I guess it's just my acquired taste for annoying characters.
Cia
das kwl
So is ZSS still seen as a low tier?
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Vashimus
Smash Master
inb4 the Eeveelutions.
. (Though I was horribly bad the first like 4 years I played smash lmao, all these people getting good in a year or two have me envious)
Bryonato
Green Hat
yessur, I am.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
ZSS is not low tier
ZSS is just a lower character rank compared to other characters by rank.
t3chn0g0at
Smash Cadet
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Pit is high tier, without a doubt. Perhaps the best in the game. Pit is a ****.
Bryonato
Green Hat
Once people get more matchup experience then I think it is safe to start making arguments that Pit is the best in the game.
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Guest
so what's the difference?
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Keep hating. Makes it that much sweeter when I 4 stock everyone with my low tier. 
Vashimus
Smash Master
I believe Kinky was just being facetious. When isn't he?
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Reminds me of when people say Snake is garbage, the destruction is coming their way regardlessKeep hating. Makes it that much sweeter when I 4 stock everyone with my low tier.
leelue
Smash Lord
I like it when you shake it up
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Buff Toon Link's recovery, once he is off stage in theory he should never get backSnake is bad. His combo game is terrible and he will never be a tournament threat.
Nerf tethers, you can't edgeguard them
Oracle
Smash Master
i'm not really sure what that means but thanks anyways
Yeah wtf, his up+b goes nowhere.Buff Toon Link's recovery, once he is off stage in theory he should never get back
Nerf tethers, you can't edgeguard them
GunBlaze
Smash Lord
Decent, but not special. But that's just me
Vashimus
Smash Master
B.W.
Smash Champion
His recovery isn't too bad. AGT gives you great distance and his up-B allows you to get to the ledge/stage safely too because it's hard to stop.
If a character can stop it though you're in for a rough time.
If a character can stop it though you're in for a rough time.
His recovery is great. If you DI well his AGT gives him a ton of options/respectable distance as well as giving him projectiles to throw at the opponent, being able to bomb jump is just icing.
He also has a lot of options to grab the edge so he does very well against edge hogging. You can tether, AD tether (which leads into more options! Like dropping down into an instant up+b, sweetspot up+b, instant AD tether, double jump -> air dodge, double jump -> sweet spot, double jump -> instant tether grab), sweetspot up+b, wall jump -> b-reverse arrow/rang or wall jump -> AGT on stage.
He also has a lot of options to grab the edge so he does very well against edge hogging. You can tether, AD tether (which leads into more options! Like dropping down into an instant up+b, sweetspot up+b, instant AD tether, double jump -> air dodge, double jump -> sweet spot, double jump -> instant tether grab), sweetspot up+b, wall jump -> b-reverse arrow/rang or wall jump -> AGT on stage.
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
It's better than decent, it's really good.
Edit - Where do people think Toon Link is on the tier list (hear come the essays
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GMaster171
Smash Ace
Cancelling an airdodge with an airthrow, you get a little boost from the fact you started moving. Usually applies to item based characters, tho if Sonic grabs a bomb/banana/turnip, he can do it too.
Do it with Peach, she gets insane height.
Do it with Peach, she gets insane height.
Oro?!
Smash Hero
I don't know. I wouldn't judge the character until I play someone who is well versed as TL and played them in a variety of matchups.It's better than decent, it's really good.
Edit - Where do people think Toon Link is on the tier list (hear come the essays
leelue
Smash Lord
Oracle
Smash Master
OH **** its been forever since i've seen evolution.
GunBlaze
Smash Lord
Pretty much why I had no clue.
I love TL and find him a fun secondary, but compared to others, he's just bad.It's better than decent, it's really good.
Edit - Where do people think Toon Link is on the tier list (hear come the essays
Of course this doesn't mean he can't give trouble in the right hands.
Also, his recovery is long, but too delicate. If you don't have a 2nd jump you're gone. I wouldn't call it good.
I'd put him in the mid 20s on a tier list.
It would be interesting to see some tier lists organized in a way where the Melee tier list is used as a frame of reference.
For instance, instead of being ordered as top, high, mid, low, and bottom, it would be nice to see someone try to list characters under Melee Fox/Falco tier, Melee Sheik/Puff tier, Melee Marth/Peach tier, Melee Captain Falcon tier, and Melee ICs/Doc tier. I think this would provide a clearer frame of reference and dampen the exaggeration of both speculators and critics
For instance, instead of being ordered as top, high, mid, low, and bottom, it would be nice to see someone try to list characters under Melee Fox/Falco tier, Melee Sheik/Puff tier, Melee Marth/Peach tier, Melee Captain Falcon tier, and Melee ICs/Doc tier. I think this would provide a clearer frame of reference and dampen the exaggeration of both speculators and critics