Thunders' Combo.* Udated Again* 9~27~06

[Silent Wolf]

Or maybe you don't perfect WD like I do, or waveshine as fast as possible, LOL. When I go to your place or wherever, I'll show you a bunch of variations to this combo.

 

[ChaosKnight]

Very good combo ive seen azen pull off something simillar but his is waveshine into jab upsmash into upthrow with another upsmash and then into an azen **** called death ....><

 

[Silent Wolf]

That's what VarietyBarrage does, but after the first usmash, he catches you., and chain throws you to death, lol. depending on the stage though.

 

[REØ]

I can do it now, guess all I needed was a perfect WD, thanks in advance silent, btw if the falco's tech the shine, you just tech chase into and Usmash right?

 

[Zodiak-Lucien]

that combo was pretty crazy stuff, I can find many uses for that.

Problem: I hit him with the jab but he doesnt stand up.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I don't know why he wouldn't stand up, unless he has more than like 40%, then he can choose where to get up. and Yes marth05, you can tech chase with the usmash in that case.

 

[Zodiak-Lucien]

I figured out the problem, I was phantom hitting him. Also I had a though, instead of the uair cant you do a drill shine and repeat the process?

 

[REØ]

but it won't work if he has 40% or more, like silent stated before

 

[Silent Wolf]

no you cant do the drill and repeat, cause the drill keeps him on the ground, you can only hit them twice when theyre on the ground before they can stand no matter what, and the drill makes 2 hits, the only reason the uair works is cause takes them off the ground.

 

[Falken]

I don't really understand what you just said but I guess the only thing I need to know is you can't use it if the opponent has more than 40 % and you have to do a uair or upsmash after the jab.

 

[NJzFinest]

cant they just tech the shine or DI the shine? ppl do that alot these days now.

 

[Silent Wolf]

DIing the shine won't help if you perfect WD, but yeah, they can tech the shine, which sucks, but ppl usually just tech the uair, at least the ones i play wit. thats why you change it up every once in a while so they dont know extacly when or what to tech, like starting the combo from uthrow, or just uthrow, then jab them if they land and go from there, cause ppl think fox would do something other than let them land most of the time.

 

[NJzFinest]

If they DI down, doesn't Fox go past them?

 

[Silent Wolf]

DI which attack down? If you mean the uair, if you watched the vid i posted, you can see if they just DI it down and dont tech, theyll still get usmashed. if you're talkin about somthin else, tell me what.

 

[NJzFinest]

I mean, DI down the shine so that you won't even fall to the ground. Alot of people have started doing this

 

[REØ]

^ yea that's usually what i do to faloc, to prevent him from comboing my ***.

 

[Ryan-K]

LOL didnt seem to do that to me oh snap

 

[REØ]

that's because i learned it last week, lol.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I mean, DI down the shine so that you won't even fall to the ground. Alot of people have started doing this

I actually love it when they do that. I always shine and still jab them, but if they did DI it down, i just shine jab again and if they DIed it down again, i repeat the process until they dont DI it down. but im sure you can get out o this, but it works a lot for me.

 

[Thomaz]

Hm, I've been using the shine to jab a lot, but I never thought about Uair to Upsmash. Nice. ^___^

Thankies.

Also, the argument was silly, lol.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I agree, it was silly, also, how did you get that cool sig!? lol.

 

[Omni]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IfmOKlLRY

Look at around 1:26. Mofo or PC does the shine to jab, and this is an OLD video by the way.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I've seen that. but what is that supposed to mean? everyone does shine to jab. are you agreeing with lord shl that mofo made it up, when that wasnt the combo? lol. i shouldnt jump to conclusions though. like i said before though, doesnt matter who made it really.

 

[The_CheapNess]

All i have to say is, its a good thing you found this silent because its one of the most kick *** discoveries ever. XD. seriously, i never used to like playing characters thta fallf rom shine because i couldnt do WS combos, now i can dair shine into a nasty combo, and since i have this strange natural reaction to shine from a dair insted of grab, i can do it and still combo! sweet man.

and when i nair i grab, but when i dair i shine, wierd, but either way its gonna help my game alot, especially vs my frends falco.

but basically, if you jab while hes on the ground, it forces him togm e tup and you can uair him? this mean that you can do this whenever he is on the ground? thats would be so awsome.

 

[Silent Wolf]

yes, whenever theyre on the ground like this, as soon as they get there, you can uair them. like uthrow to usmash, and if they land and dont tech, you can jab, uair, uair, uair. or other things work too.

 

[The_CheapNess]

omg best fox discovery ever. no one is safe on the ground anymore.

this is crazy, you can constantly push an offensive if you manage to master this move. it seems a bit hard to doa t first ebcause the waveshine must be fast, perfect, and the jab has to come out fast, and shffling uairs is a bit tricky. still, you can combo the hell out of someone, and if they dont tech, you can keep goping! how do you rate this thread, i want to give it like 20 stars.

 

[Silent Wolf]

keep in mind that i didnt invent this.

 

[Dalal]

... shffling uairs is a bit tricky...

Once you can execute shffled nairs consistently, shffled uairs are easier than ever. Just treat the C-Stick like A. Just tap it up instead of pressing A and there you have an instant shffled nair. They are easy as any other shffled move - because of the C-Stick. That's what I think.

 

[leafgreen386]

lol. For me, shffl'ed Uairs are WAY harder than shffl'ed nairs. I have a weird problem of usually pressing left, rather than pressing up on the c-stick, causing me to accidently execute a bair or (ugh) fair.

 

[controlfreak7]

I have the problem sometimes too, you should get used to it though actually shffl the u-air isn't that hard either just remember that you have to wait longer to l cancel it correctly.

 

[Silent Wolf]

I use c-stick for i so i have more control with the control stick.

 

[mcc]

the c stick is too far away for me to do airiels on, but i think i should try learning to use them for shuffled uairs

 

[Silent Wolf]

at first, i didnt like the c-stick cause it was far too, but now, i do the majority of my aerials with it. i even use it to shine combo with falco so i have complete control. c-stick perfect your game. and to think i used to think it was noobish..LOL!

 

[The_CheapNess]

i never use it for some reason, and for the shffled uairs, im getting used to the timing so its not that bad, i just fj insted of sh, i have a habit of FJing after i press something else before it. probably because i can;t adjust my finger strength fast enough.

 

[REDfox1]

silent wolf thank you for telling me this. because all i usually do is waveshine 2 a jab and thats it . i usually dont know what else 2 do and now i got that combo down so thanks dude you have my respect

 

[Silent Wolf]

your welcome. ^^
*keeping topic alive*

 

[Hoodie]

Yea nicely done in the vid, I'm going to practice this a bit tomorrow.

 

[Silent Wolf]

God, i wish i had a better vid, LOL.

 

[Eggz]

I use da control stick for uairs.

*keeping topic alive >_>*

I <3 thunders combo.

 

[Hoodie]

I don't use the C-stick at all... =/