RedrappeR
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2008
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For about 3 and a half months, I've been anticipating the release of brawl. In fact, I structured my whole schedule around it. Things were exciting, and I was excited.
I needed a place to go to have some sort of outlook or venting ground or something. So I joined SWF. My friend Enigma was already a member, so I said, "Why the hell not?" I came here to discuss and talk about something I was passionate towards. Have fun. Have anticipation.
35 roster got revealed... People had disagreements. Whatever. Things cooled. Game was released. Now look at this.
I'm disappointed. Here me out. This isn't a tirade. This isn't like every other thread where the person says they're not going on a tirade, and that's exactly what they do, because they want to feel special about themselves, and be quoted a dozen times to feel like they've made an accomplishment, when really everyone else on the forum is going "there are other arguments", yet no one seems to care.
I'm disappointed with all of this. Honestly. It's getting to the point where it's just depressing to come here. You understand what's going on at this point? GAF is laughing at this forum. We're being compared to GameFAQS, on and OFF this forum. We're being compared to GameFAQS. I'll repeat this one more time. WE'RE BEING COMPARED TO GAMEFAQS. The Forum where you find such lovely posts as "WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT!!! BANKAI ICHIGO, SONIC, OR THE FLASH?!"
What now? I come here everyday, and it's the same post. The same ****ING post. "Guys! The 35 roster is disappointing!" "**** YOU SAKURAI!" "Shut up WHINERS!" "Lol I'm gonna act all cynical and **** to get my point across." And every time someone tries to correct it, people ignore their topic and use it for their own personal gain. Someone will post "Guys, cheer up, it'll be okay." and two posts afterwards "SAKURAI HAD THIS MUCH TIME AND EFFORT AND HE WASTED IT! **** HIM!"
Jesus, really? Really? are you serious? There's no point in calling people ungrateful, there's no point in calling people stuck up. Because they won't listen to each other. They dive around it. No matter HOW Much evidence you show them, no matter what you do, they want their way. This is just spoiled person fest.
There are intelligent people here. Aeris, Card, Gimpy, Chrono and such. But for every intelligent person, there's someone like Fawriel, who insists on being a **** to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Really? So if I like the roster, I'm automatically a ******? Thanks.
And not just him, there are tons of people who literally just want to COMPLAIN. Just COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN. Sure, you can express disappointment, but there's a point to where you're just being redundant. That goes for both sides. There's a point where what you've been repeating has already been answered and people have moved on, yet you're bringing it up again, or not clarifying enough to move an argument forward and you're stuck on it. And then instead of clarifying, you flame the other person, because the more of a douche you are, the farther you think people will trust you. You'll get someone quoting you saying "Good job, you've done well.. keep posting." You'll get people agreeing with everything you say. Literally everything. Someone could write "I LOVE KILLING PUPPIES! Oh and the thirty five roster sucks and everyone who likes it should be STABBED!"
Watch. That would be quoted. Something along the lines of "I agree with everything you've just said. It's so true, blah blah, Roster." Just to promote something. It's literally politics. That's what's this has turned into. POLITICS. Agreeing with one party of people, just because they share a small similar goal, instead of making up your mind yourself, and discussing it. There's no discussions anymore. Just arguments. Just people yelling and screaming. Arguments.
And it won't stop. Something in me begs it to, but I've name dropped 5 people at this point(including Fawriel, who looks like he'll flame me as well, and call me an idiot for not having the same opinion he does), and it's a near certainty this will go off topic, and my original post in this thread will be ignored. Chrono predicted that people would go crazy, and asked them to keep calm, and no one listened.
No one ever listened. This isn't a discussion board, and while Fatmanonice wants some valiant discussion, we really can't have any at this point. No one's giving their OWN opinion. They're forming cliques and starting flamewars. This isn't High school. This isn't Washington DC. This is Smashboards.
It's place where we should be able to debate civily, without resulting to low blows. It's a place where we should look at something, and talk about it with integrity instead of making guess judges(AKA, calling something MELEE 2.0. I'm not talking about roster wise, people literally are saying everything in this game is MELEE 2.0 because they're pissed with the roster, when they haven't even played it.) and yelling at each other. A message board isn't meant for pushing someone's opinions out, it's for sharing them. As corny as it sounds, it's true, and that's what this board has lost, and that's what I've felt so depressed about.
What is my take on it? I'm fine with the roster. I got over it. I prepped myself for it, and if anything happened I was ready. (Btw, if you skipped to this part in the post, because I know some of you will, read the whole thing.) I think people are forgetting that Sakurai made the whole game and not just the roster, and I think he gave us a lot. I don't think people should call him a failure, because he's done a lot for us. It's not like he looked at the board, and ignored us just for a laugh. Whatever, that's my opinion, I could elaborate but that would ruin the point. I'm not going to PUSH this opinion on anyone else. I'll be honest, even I've been guilty of being a **** on this board a few times. I'll admit it.
But honestly, this isn't getting anywhere. It's hopeless. The sad thing is, all I wanted to do, was go to a place where I could talk about my favorite game, instead of getting into an argument every other thread. I guess I was wrong.
I needed a place to go to have some sort of outlook or venting ground or something. So I joined SWF. My friend Enigma was already a member, so I said, "Why the hell not?" I came here to discuss and talk about something I was passionate towards. Have fun. Have anticipation.
35 roster got revealed... People had disagreements. Whatever. Things cooled. Game was released. Now look at this.
I'm disappointed. Here me out. This isn't a tirade. This isn't like every other thread where the person says they're not going on a tirade, and that's exactly what they do, because they want to feel special about themselves, and be quoted a dozen times to feel like they've made an accomplishment, when really everyone else on the forum is going "there are other arguments", yet no one seems to care.
I'm disappointed with all of this. Honestly. It's getting to the point where it's just depressing to come here. You understand what's going on at this point? GAF is laughing at this forum. We're being compared to GameFAQS, on and OFF this forum. We're being compared to GameFAQS. I'll repeat this one more time. WE'RE BEING COMPARED TO GAMEFAQS. The Forum where you find such lovely posts as "WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT!!! BANKAI ICHIGO, SONIC, OR THE FLASH?!"
What now? I come here everyday, and it's the same post. The same ****ING post. "Guys! The 35 roster is disappointing!" "**** YOU SAKURAI!" "Shut up WHINERS!" "Lol I'm gonna act all cynical and **** to get my point across." And every time someone tries to correct it, people ignore their topic and use it for their own personal gain. Someone will post "Guys, cheer up, it'll be okay." and two posts afterwards "SAKURAI HAD THIS MUCH TIME AND EFFORT AND HE WASTED IT! **** HIM!"
Jesus, really? Really? are you serious? There's no point in calling people ungrateful, there's no point in calling people stuck up. Because they won't listen to each other. They dive around it. No matter HOW Much evidence you show them, no matter what you do, they want their way. This is just spoiled person fest.
There are intelligent people here. Aeris, Card, Gimpy, Chrono and such. But for every intelligent person, there's someone like Fawriel, who insists on being a **** to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Really? So if I like the roster, I'm automatically a ******? Thanks.
And not just him, there are tons of people who literally just want to COMPLAIN. Just COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN. Sure, you can express disappointment, but there's a point to where you're just being redundant. That goes for both sides. There's a point where what you've been repeating has already been answered and people have moved on, yet you're bringing it up again, or not clarifying enough to move an argument forward and you're stuck on it. And then instead of clarifying, you flame the other person, because the more of a douche you are, the farther you think people will trust you. You'll get someone quoting you saying "Good job, you've done well.. keep posting." You'll get people agreeing with everything you say. Literally everything. Someone could write "I LOVE KILLING PUPPIES! Oh and the thirty five roster sucks and everyone who likes it should be STABBED!"
Watch. That would be quoted. Something along the lines of "I agree with everything you've just said. It's so true, blah blah, Roster." Just to promote something. It's literally politics. That's what's this has turned into. POLITICS. Agreeing with one party of people, just because they share a small similar goal, instead of making up your mind yourself, and discussing it. There's no discussions anymore. Just arguments. Just people yelling and screaming. Arguments.
And it won't stop. Something in me begs it to, but I've name dropped 5 people at this point(including Fawriel, who looks like he'll flame me as well, and call me an idiot for not having the same opinion he does), and it's a near certainty this will go off topic, and my original post in this thread will be ignored. Chrono predicted that people would go crazy, and asked them to keep calm, and no one listened.
No one ever listened. This isn't a discussion board, and while Fatmanonice wants some valiant discussion, we really can't have any at this point. No one's giving their OWN opinion. They're forming cliques and starting flamewars. This isn't High school. This isn't Washington DC. This is Smashboards.
It's place where we should be able to debate civily, without resulting to low blows. It's a place where we should look at something, and talk about it with integrity instead of making guess judges(AKA, calling something MELEE 2.0. I'm not talking about roster wise, people literally are saying everything in this game is MELEE 2.0 because they're pissed with the roster, when they haven't even played it.) and yelling at each other. A message board isn't meant for pushing someone's opinions out, it's for sharing them. As corny as it sounds, it's true, and that's what this board has lost, and that's what I've felt so depressed about.
What is my take on it? I'm fine with the roster. I got over it. I prepped myself for it, and if anything happened I was ready. (Btw, if you skipped to this part in the post, because I know some of you will, read the whole thing.) I think people are forgetting that Sakurai made the whole game and not just the roster, and I think he gave us a lot. I don't think people should call him a failure, because he's done a lot for us. It's not like he looked at the board, and ignored us just for a laugh. Whatever, that's my opinion, I could elaborate but that would ruin the point. I'm not going to PUSH this opinion on anyone else. I'll be honest, even I've been guilty of being a **** on this board a few times. I'll admit it.
But honestly, this isn't getting anywhere. It's hopeless. The sad thing is, all I wanted to do, was go to a place where I could talk about my favorite game, instead of getting into an argument every other thread. I guess I was wrong.