The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

[JMan8891]

Hey, i should have the first non-wifi Sonic match this weekend. Nvr met him and he doesn't post but yea... im bad at ditto's, lol

Care for some inputzies Puff, you generaly have the analytical eye. WTF to do to a sick peach, xD

 

[Espy Rose]

Hey, i should have the first non-wifi Sonic match this weekend. Nvr met him and he doesn't post but yea... im bad at ditto's, lol

Care for some inputzies Puff, you generaly have the analytical eye. WTF to do to a sick peach, xD

I haven't played a competent Peach main, so unfortunately I cannot really add any input without it being flawed or just wrong.

However, I would think a proper spacing against her dair, and punishing the end lag to the move with a DACUS may work.

Personally, I'd just hang back and punish their approaches. I'm sure many of Peach's attacks have some sort of lag to punish. Fair, dair, etc.

Oh, and fyi, there's a good 50/50-75/25 chance that I'm gonna ditto Mr. 3000 this Saturday.

Puffball vs. 3000. That alone sounds pretty steaktastic.

 

[JMan8891]

More agro espy vs more methodic 3000. In ditto, i think that favors espy

 

[infomon]

A much better quality version of the Mr. 3000 vs. Hiza (Falcon) matches from Hobo12:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5IE-plbi8

 

[Boxob.]

Ew, I need matches up in here some time.

 

[Espy Rose]

More agro espy vs more methodic 3000. In ditto, i think that favors espy

Regardless of whichever way it goes, it's gonna be a hell of a set if it happens. Does 3K have any Sonic ditto experience? All of mine comes from WiFi, save for a match or two offline.

A much better quality version of the Mr. 3000 vs. Hiza (Falcon) matches from Hobo12:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5IE-plbi8

Thanks, I've changed it.

 

[JMan8891]

Puff, that story was win, lol. And u have to put the vid in the winning Steak section, lmfao

"We need a big truck or something"

Too funny xD

 

[The Milk Monster]

Can't believe I didn't see this thread.
Here are some videos.

Tucker vs Legan 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRrngeqTyHk

Tucker vs Legan 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJYgTobSg4Q

 

[Camalange]

Holy crap Legan is good.

Sorry, but it's hard to rate his Sonic went that Link is so amazing.

 

[The Milk Monster]

Haha I know right Cama?
I'll get some more videos of him today not against Legan, then we'll see, haha.

 

[Camalange]

Alright I'll give a real overview now (but holy crap Leagan is sexy)

Tucker doesn't seem to know the complexity of Sonic. I didn't see ASC, ASC shield canceling, spinshots, SideB cancels, nothing. Sonic relies heavily on baiting and punishing. ASC and SideB cancels are great ways for baiting people into doing something. Also, he should take advantage of Sonic's throw options. For example:

Uthrow >SideB (your opponent could react like "Oh no! He's going to hit me as a ball" and then airdodge. While they're falling from the airdodge...) >SideB cancel (What's this? After the airdodge is over...)>Regrab.

I suggest he reads or stickies XD

 

[Espy Rose]

I updated, adding in the matches linked my Milk, and the updates Chis did in his own thread.

The guy who video'd the matches at FS5 said to give him at least 3 days to set up his shiz.
I'll be linking to the vids asap.

 

[Camalange]

I'm excited Puffy/Espy/Steak/Steakmeister

 

[infomon]

Cama, I'm gonna disagree about Tucker. He used a few spinshots and ASC once (2hits), so he knows some Sonic stuff. In the second match I saw a neat jab-jab (hits off platform) > Nair falling off the platform that I thought was cool.

But yeah he needs to learn some of the basics, like how awesome shieldgrabbing / grabbing in general with Sonic is, fakeouts with the spindashes, momentum-cancelling, etc. Does Tucker go on smashboards? He should come talk to us

yeah that Link was beast tho lol.

 

[JayBee]

legan needs more practice against Projectile characters if he ever want to get better with sonic. Link is the least of his worries. Links poor recovery didn't even come into play meaning his edge game was lacking the whole time. but man, that link was so technical... i loved watching the link more.

so yeah, legan, just practice against projectile guys more and u be gudz too.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Legan is the Link. XD

 

[Camalange]

Cama, I'm gonna disagree about Tucker. He used a few spinshots and ASC once (2hits), so he knows some Sonic stuff. In the second match I saw a neat jab-jab (hits off platform) > Nair falling off the platform that I thought was cool.

Was that in the second match?

I only watched the first one and I didn't see any ASC...ah well.

 

[JayBee]

Im about to upload a whole bunch of vids between me and this Ganon player i know. we ended up training for like, two hours!!! some good moves and great steak to show! i hope the quality is okay...

let you know when some are done uploading, which ill be doing all night.
EDIT: Ill post links now as they finish. unfortunately the audio is lagging so im sry about that. ignore it/mute it.

Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 1
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 2
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 3
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 4
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 5
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 6
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 7
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 8
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 9
Kojin (Sonic) vs DTG (Ganon) 10

 

[Camalange]

Fair > Ganon, lol

I was surprised by how much more you use Uair than I do...and I'm the Boxob of Uair, lol.

Some really sweet stuff in that first match...

1:58 - 2:03
Been learning from Malcom, eh?

 

[JayBee]

Fair > Ganon, lol

I was surprised by how much more you use Uair than I do...and I'm the Boxob of Uair, lol.

Some really sweet stuff in that first match...

1:58 - 2:03
Been learning from Malcom, eh?

that obvious? btw, its only recently i've been spamming uair this much. I'm trying to add it to my game. that hardest part is the spacing, and i was trying to see how much i can get away with spamming it. and for the most part I did. I played a Pokemon Trainer and a Snake today same idea, same results for the most part...

 

[Boxob.]

I wanna watch all those videos later, I won't forget lol.

I watched like twenty seconds of the first match, I like what I saw lol.

 

[Camalange]

Yeah, Uair is a beast move
<3

I watched another one of your matches, match 10. Again, you're awesome, lol. You do some steak stuff with Sonic and it's very impressive. I hope you plan on attending big tournaments soon :3

 

[JayBee]

Fair > Ganon, lol

I was surprised by how much more you use Uair than I do...and I'm the Boxob of Uair, lol.

Looks like... I'm the new Boxob of Uair

Or better yet, just simply the new Boxob. minus spam. reverse boxob... oh wait a minute...

 

[JMan8891]

From this past Saturdays Smashfest/Tourney

Random, lol

JMan (Sonic) vs Dat (G&W) R2 (didn't record the first round... pirate ship 3 stock vs Tink, lol ) (2 3 stocks in that tourney, btw...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZV3gaHMf0k&feature=channel_page

And finally, some teams shennaningans, "Low Tier Heroes" i suggest everyone find a hella good C Falc, its a pwnsome duo, xD Unfortunatley, we didin't record our darn near 6 stock vs NC rank 1 player, lol

Grandfinals: (Undeafeated in sets baby!)
JMan (Sonic)+ ARS (C Falcon) vs Epic (Bowser)+ Dat (G&W) R1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBPF489dIM&feature=channel_page



Beat them 1st set/round btw...so they pretty much random selected for R2 GF set, the last match
JMan (Sonic)+ARS (C Falcon) vs Epic (Pit)+ Dat (Sonic) R2 (and teh lulz, xD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQA6xK8RRo&feature=channel_page

And when i lost...

JMan (Sonic) vs Crio (Falco)R1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf0H1pCZe8I&feature=channel_page

JMan (Sonic) vs Crio (Marth)R2 (Good comeback, imho)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6rztiPSpJI&feature=channel_page

JMan (Sonic) vs Crio (Fox) R3 (....)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AA3KV3a4E&feature=channel_page

So... yea... 1st in teams... 5th due to that R3 epic fail....

Edit: Commentary is so winxD

 

[JMan8891]

And a near 6 stocjk in teams (sorry, the replay was picure-camera recorded)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JAEDTXfkU&fmt=18

yea.... team match w/NC rank 1 player getting low-tier skooled in under 3 mins, xD

 

[JayBee]

hmm... the vids i posted aren't on the first page yet...

 

[JMan8891]

hmm... the vids i posted aren't on the first page yet...

Puffy is sleeping on teh thread, lol

 

[Espy Rose]

My lords, I almost forgot about this! 0_o;

Steak goddess, have mercy upon thy soul. I shall deliver to you the daily steak, so long as you can forgive me!

 

[JMan8891]

Puff, i think your still oozing steak from what you just pulled xD

I granteth unto ye a pass. Now ye shall spreadeth our "Steak" eternally across the land!

 

[Espy Rose]

I've updated with Jay's and JMan's videos.

The Final Smash 5 videos have been starting to slowly show up on Youtube, but nothing of my doing is up just yet, so stay patient. They should be up by today or tomorrow.

 

[Espy Rose]

Bumped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt6FeMg_rgw&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. Infinity (Meta Knight) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9pkWvij7ns&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. Infinity (Meta Knight) 2

The other videos are uploading as the night progresses. Vids coming soon include:

Espy vs Melee1 (3rd match only)
Espy vs d4ba
Espy vs Le Thien
Infinity vs Espy 3
Espy vs Razer

So stay tuned. They should all be up by hopefully tomorrow night...

 

[ZMan]

I hope you jv 4 stocked melee1

I don't like that guy

 

[Neon Ness]

Apparently bomb blocks > Infinity.

Awesome matches, Puffball.

 

[Espy Rose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpqrIMUo63I&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. Melee1 (MK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aNvWAd_06U&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. d4ba (Snake) 1

 

[Kinzer]

Way to stall Espy. XD

 

[infomon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9pkWvij7ns&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. Infinity (Meta Knight) 2

This is the best brawl match I've ever seen.

I was jumping in my chair, that's how much of a loser I am.......... dude you r0x.
and green greens is ********

 

[Espy Rose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsHsCIRVZE&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. d4ba (Meta Knight) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygkaYyIvPUs&fmt=18 - Puffball (Sonic) vs. d4ba (Meta Knight) 3

 

[Kinzer]

Sawnik Pawnch anybody?

 

[Super_Sonic8677]

Epic Steak Puffy

 

[infomon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygkaYyIvPUs&fmt=18
2:30 - 2:37

note how it starts with MK's Dtilt

the rest is our formal response to the SBR