The ULTIMATE Samus Guide

[KillerJawz]

Get out..........

I actually laughed really hard at this.

 

[ZeroL]

I think I found one more TRUE combo! According to the practice mode's consecutive hits meter it's a combo.

Uair > Airjump > Zair

This works great for gimping and stuff, after Zairing your opponent of the stage you can land a super of homing missile. Or you can go for the spike. I'll post a video of it later if that's prefered.

 

[Cherry64]

Err, yet to prove this offline, but it's been working VERY well for me. first off, have afully charged shot ready, then hit the enemy with a short Zair, like the beginning of the TGM combo, > jab>charge shot. it worked online when I wasn't used to online lag (Still aren't) so Maybe I got lucky and buffered something but I will try this in real matches sometime

 

[KillerJawz]

Samus' Jab has like no hitstun on it, and the charge shot takes a very long time to come out, not a real combo imo, but very close to one.

 

[Cherry64]

Samus' Jab has like no hitstun on it, and the charge shot takes a very long time to come out, not a real combo imo, but very close to one.

Yes lol, I know. I've been in a jab fight, it sucks. but the zair and jab knock the opponent into the air, but not high enough to actually do anything to retaliate before we launch our charge shot

 

[-Cross-]

More likely a frame trap that very few characters can get out of.

 

[KillerJawz]

So Xyro. That frame data video, im going to assume its not coming anymore?

If not, im sure I can find somebody to get one done for us.

 

[Xyro77]

So Xyro. That frame data video, im going to assume its not coming anymore?

If not, im sure I can find somebody to get one done for us.

I said a while back that the guy who was gonna do it for me backed out. Ive asked so many of those B+ nerds to help me out but they say it takes too long and samus is weird so it would take 4 times as long just do do her hitbubbles and frame data

 

[KillerJawz]

I said a while back that the guy who was gonna do it for me backed out. Ive asked so many of those B+ nerds to help me out but they say it takes too long and samus is weird so it would take 4 times as long just do do her hitbubbles and frame data

Must have missed that post. I'll attempt to find someone to do it, in the mean time, try to look for someone. By the by, the frame data for dair is missing from the OP.

 

[Xyro77]

Must have missed that post. I'll attempt to find someone to do it, in the mean time, try to look for someone. By the by, the frame data for dair is missing from the OP.

yea i know. i deleted some of the data and forgot to replace it.

 

[Xyro77]

I apologize for the double post but i really think its worth it.

I contacted a guy about hitbubbles and he said he would do them for samus. The funny thing is, he started almost instantly and he said he already hase like 5 moves done so i already know hes SERIOUS about this. Give him a few more days(due to him study for finals) and a video should be up. Im also gonna get some one to get us EXACT and EXTENDED frame data.

 

[KillerJawz]

I apologize for the double post but i really think its worth it.

I contacted a guy about hitbubbles and he said he would do them for samus. The funny thing is, he started almost instantly and he said he already hase like 5 moves done so i already know hes SERIOUS about this. Give him a few more days(due to him study for finals) and a video should be up. Im also gonna get some one to get us EXACT and EXTENDED frame data.

I love you.

Don't worry, it's not a double post <3.

Spoiler

After hearing that, I wouldn't infract you for it anyway

 

[Muz]

Thank you Xyro, and make sure to thank the guy for me too.

 

[KillerJawz]

Posts removed from request of Cherry. Good lord it's hard to do anything when your using a freaking touchpad x.x.

Do we have any information on IASA frames? That's an area im not particularly educated in tbh :/

 

[Cherry64]

Posts removed from request of Cherry. Good lord it's hard to do anything when your using a freaking touchpad x.x.

Do we have any information on IASA frames? That's an area im not particularly educated in tbh :/

/put in Q&A thread pl0x. Yes. we doo, did you delete the legit one about Our bombs?

Fail <3

 

[KillerJawz]

Im copying them now lol, soft deletes > hard deletes my friend :3

 

[chainmaillekid]

Um, looking WAY back at the OP...

I was reading a the description for low charge shot, and I was thinking that it HAS to be able to do more than just hitting crawling people.

So I played around with it, and made a quick video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsZuo7bYXCQ

I have some addition information on it.

The main thing, a fully, charged LCS will actually be lower than the platform, allowing you to hit people on the ledge.

This isn't any different from a normal CS, but you have enough time to do a seeking missile and a LCS from a full hop.

Not really very significant, so I didn't want to make a thread about it.

 

[KillerJawz]

That is quite an old technique tbh. Not noticed enough because it really is just a good combination of a missile and a CS. Still, nice to see you're helping out.

 

[chainmaillekid]

That is quite an old technique tbh. Not noticed enough because it really is just a good combination of a missile and a CS. Still, nice to see you're helping out.

I'm not saying it isn't old, or useful. Just that the description in the OP really only mentions it being able to hit crawling people, and doesn't mention people on the ledge. which at least seems more useful than hitting crawling people.

 

[KillerJawz]

Oh I see, sorry I misunderstood.

 

[Mechmainiac]

wow what a nice trick ill be sure use that next time I get the chance

 

[-Crews-]

I'm not saying it isn't old, or useful. Just that the description in the OP really only mentions it being able to hit crawling people, and doesn't mention people on the ledge. which at least seems more useful than hitting crawling people.

If I'm not mistaken, it was Hive who made a video showing that. I could be totally wrong though.

 

[KillerJawz]

Okay guys the guide has had a major revamp, I hope you can all give it a read <3.

All we need is that frame data and this will be complete.

 

[Dragonmaster_Omega]

Okay guys the guide has had a major revamp, I hope you can all give it a read <3.

All we need is that frame data and this will be complete.

I like the revamp. Especially how things were gone into more in-depth, especially the various descriptions and "tier listing" on Samus's moves.
Nicely done. Still need that frame data though. Hopefully we will get it soon.

 

[quirkynature]

To all who helped build this thread, I will just say: awesome.

It's a really great 'understand Samus' thread. Thanks!!

 

[KillerJawz]

I'm glad you liked it ^^.

 

[Xyro77]

u are welcome. i do a **** load for samus

 

[Tudor]

Yay, Samus info!

 

[Zanx8]

Are you coming back Tudor? O_o
On topic, shouldn't this guide be updated or whatever?

 

[Xyro77]

if it did get an update it wouldnt be too big. MUs and stuff didnt change almost at all. and tbh, i dont wanna update this for a board that is DEAD

 

[Zanx8]

Any update is better than none. I wish the boards weren't dead, but I guess that can't be controlled.

 

[Xyro77]

Yea it is. Samus is bad and the way rulesets are being created these days, it highly promotes high/top tier characters. low tier is pointless unless its a low tier tournament.

 

[Zanx8]

I know, that's why I'm picking up Zero Suit Samus so I can switch to her in the middle of a match since that makes Samus a little more useful. What do you think could make Samus better? Rule-set wise?

 

[Xyro77]

I know, that's why I'm picking up Zero Suit Samus so I can switch to her in the middle of a match since that makes Samus a little more useful. What do you think could make Samus better? Rule-set wise?

get rid of MK.

Stop taking away stages like brinstar/japes/cruise/ps2....ect

Ban/limit infinite CGs.


this stuff wont make Samus climb the tier list but at least it will give us a slightly better chance at doing well.

 

[Zanx8]

I miss PS2 so much. It would be good for stages to come back like those. So now I know what rule-set I could try supporting. What is a general good CP for the common rule-sets?

 

[DtJ Composer]

Wait, places ban PS2?

Midwest is best coast.

 

[Zanx8]

Yes, for whatever reason they take away an amazing stage. ;_;

 

[Xyro77]

What is a general good CP for the common rule-sets?

what do you mean?

 

[Zanx8]

What is a good stage to CP for generally a lot of bad MUs? I'm never sure :/ I mean since some people do ban PS1.

 

[Xyro77]

What is a good stage to CP for generally a lot of bad MUs? I'm never sure :/ I mean since some people do ban PS1.

I tend do go for SV/BF for neutrals. PS1/lylat/castle for counter picks