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you may not have meant it "personally", but people certainly take it personally when you say things like everyone who is arguing with you is an idiot, is stupid, is incapable of stating the obvious, etc.Edit: I'm really pissed off because in all this time no one has made anything personal until just now. It has no place in this debate/argument/blabber/whatever you want to call it. If you want to take a personal shot at me then by all means go for it, but expect no reaction than what's happening right now.
How is this very important to you?
Whatever @ both of you. I'm hitting at their abilities to argue, nothing else. The only person/s that I have antagonized have been Spam and Inui, Inui is used to it (he doesn't like it but it's truth, his logic in Smash related stuff is awful) and Spam knows what's what. It has a very distinct place in arguments. Also Keitaro for saying something outrageous, which he later clarified wasn't his intent, which is what I was looking for anyways.you may not have meant it "personally", but people certainly take it personally when you say things like everyone who is arguing with you is an idiot, is stupid, is incapable of stating the obvious, etc.
I love ping pong if thats what you were refering to.if **** is personal that better be taken to AIM...
or to the pong table...oh girl
i love me some table tennis, brings back great memories.I love ping pong if thats what you were refering to.![]()
Here in lies the porblem. Sadly I go through it everyday. Most people do not KNOW HOW TO ARGUE. They want to say how they feel, and once they have been stumped( regardless of whether they were right or wrong) they feel personally attacked and proceed in a defensive posture. The fact is most people didn't know what they were signing up for when they said their small comment. If they say something stupid or unproven they are verbally abused and they don't know how to take it, thats all. So Scar you are not in the wrong for keeping this thing going.... I can not see at all how you could claim that my intention was that. You and Gotem called me out on paying more recognition to the post by Jfox and I simply stated why you two were incorrect in your assumption that I should have felt the same about it as I do about yours.Whatever @ both of you. I'm hitting at their abilities to argue, nothing else. .
I didn't mean to call you out in particular, your post was just easy to quote and direct and to the point. I didn't even care I mean your comments were not out of place at all, you were actually a very helpful part of the discussion especially over AIM.You and Gotem called me out on paying more recognition to the post by Jfox and I simply stated why you two were incorrect in your assumption that I should have felt the same about it as I do about yours.
Don't mind if I do just that. Also, post fixed."Ok, I mean, good stuff but like this is just one post that's reaching the caliber of the maybe 50 posts that I have made in this thread"
I'm absolutely sure that that meant "ok JFox had one good post, but what about the 50 posts ive made" which is keeping score, and also being annoyed that the one post i had took the attention off the 50 you made.
SO when you figure out a way to explain how that had anything to do with the topic and not my post, then maybe ill change my mind. BUT, until then I still think it was immature.
Interpretation 1:Ok, I mean, good stuff but like this is just one post that's reaching the caliber of the maybe 50 posts that I have made in this thread, I don't see why the whole world is stopping. I mean I am making the counterpoint that it's still more restricting than Melee, and there are less options, which is a sucky thing.
i just think if your going to argue about brawl, than fine[Edit] And then Pocky said I was arguing for the sake of arguing? I didn't understand that at all. But anyways... [/Edit]
lmfaoooo ... we all love this guyI completly and utterly agree with mr Jfox, Scar is trying to be a horrible dictator or the human tourch from the fantastic 4, always trying to burn people to fuel his sexual needs or ego. Ask yourself this, how did Muffasa die? the answer is that Scar got in an arguement with Muffasa and instead of debating with him intelligently, he throws him off a cliff.
Wow **** you, you did not just put mooney at the end of my name. If you do not immediately apologize I will treat you with less than 1/10000 of the "respect" that Inui gets from the community.the main target was kashif mooney
This bugs the **** out of me and I bet it bugs scar the same way it does me. This went from a debate on competiveness to attacking people. You're ****ing childish man. I think everyone should calm down and stop talking about this subject.I completly and utterly agree with mr Jfox, Scar is trying to be a horrible dictator or the human tourch from the fantastic 4, always trying to burn people to fuel his sexual needs or ego. Ask yourself this, how did Muffasa die? the answer is that Scar got in an arguement with Muffasa and instead of debating with him intelligently, he throws him off a cliff.
This bugs the **** out of me and I bet it bugs scar the same way it does me. This went from a debate on competiveness to attacking people. You're ****ing childish man. I think everyone should calm down and stop talking about this subject.
Brawl doesn't seem competitive yet becuase its like the first month this game has been out in japan. G-reg made a cool comment earlier saying that even if advanced tactics are out theres still a way you can throw someone off the edge, edge guard, ect ect, so there will be people that are better at it then others. There will be a competitive scene for brawl later on.
Scar's point, and scar please correct me if im wrong cause theres so much stupid **** in this thread by everyone that they might of construed my thought on it, is that Brawl is a great game, meaning its fun and competitive, but in no relation to melee based on competiveness(He did make a good point that he was playing equaly with people that had it since it came out, but then again it's only one month. Both sides can be arguementative). That's fine to say, it's not a personal opinion by scar, so you ****ers like starcock that attack individuals saying "hes trying to be a dictator" or "he gets off sexually" can qft. It's a fact. Theres 8 years behind melee advanced tactics and 1 month behind brawl. Right now this is a factual statement, BUT THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING IT!!!
Hes not attacking brawl, hes just saying it's not as competitive. I bet scar would openly admit he was wrong(and I would as well because I agree with scar on this matter) if some advanced tactics were found in brawl that greatly influenced the competitive scene. He said lots of times he thought brawl was a great game, it's pretty much a new game entirely. Who wouldn't have fun playing with different characters on different stages. There is nothing wrong
This discussion should be stopped right now. This thread is literally called Scar vs anyone. Are you kidding me? This is a community full of gamers that should be competitive and helpful at the same time, never asking wether scar's a "true gamer", LIKE THAT IS EVEN A ****ING QUESTION. HE HOSTED 4 TOURNAMENTS SO FAR AND SUPPORTS DIFFERENT FIGHTING GAMES OTHER THAN MELEE. MORE THAN 90% OF THE PEOPLE HERE CAN'T CALL THEMSELF AS SUCH A GAMER. You shouldn't be outcasting someone that you don't agree with, and this shouldn't even be a debate. And if you do wanna debate, debate wether or not which characters are gonna be top tier, which stages are better for each, thing's that have relevance.
Will it be as competitive and entertaining to play in the future?
I believe it won't, but that's just my belief. I'll play the game with items, play everystage, do every brand of melee there is to really explore this game, not worrying about 1v1's with no items and banned stages yet. I think Mew2King got as good at smash because he loves melee and did every thing he did in the game to keep interested in the game to really get competitive later on. I hope Pc did the same(Hes my fav players, Dont worry m2k, you're the best, but PC is like....my mind hurts when i watch his fox)
So yea, I thought i should give my 2 cents becuase i havn't posted something like this in awhile and scar's a cool guy.
WTF!?!? LMAOO!!!![]()
You have the intelligence of a rodent. You don't see Scar going all lunitic about it, if you honestly think Scar is losing any sleep over my post, then you are the one that loses, you, your family, and your future generation.
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You have the intelligence of a rodent. You don't see Scar going all lunitic about it, if you honestly think Scar is losing any sleep over my post, then you are the one that loses, you, your family, and your future generation.
LMFAO starcock is too good.![]()
You have the intelligence of a rodent. You don't see Scar going all lunitic about it, if you honestly think Scar is losing any sleep over my post, then you are the one that loses, you, your family, and your future generation.
I really want to talk about Brawl, yes. Spam always wanders off and talks about specific moves and strats, and I can infrequently follow him and apparently neither can you. LOL @ Spam Mooney, I don't think you're that bad pali just think if your going to argue about brawl, than fine
The first part, no, it has nothing to do with my personal feelings on the game. Everyone knows my feelings, I think it's fun and I enjoy it.Scar if this debate is about your personal feelings on the game, than there is no way to honestly prove you wrong.
...As a matter of fact, learning to read people could actually make brawl more competitive than melee.
Dude was my brother. I didn't even care.I completly and utterly agree with mr Jfox, Scar is trying to be a horrible dictator or the human tourch from the fantastic 4, always trying to burn people to fuel his sexual needs or ego. Ask yourself this, how did Muffasa die? the answer is that Scar got in an arguement with Muffasa and instead of debating with him intelligently, he throws him off a cliff.
I can't not quote all of this. M2K says everything. How can you get punished for successfully landing basically every move? I agree with what Jason is saying and I don't see how it can be said that Brawl can ever be as competitive as Melee was.brawl you get punished for hitting them, meaning the only way to hit them safely is to do campy gay moves which is not fun, and anybody can do it equally
the increase in skill you can get due to game mechanics far limits you to what you can do contrary to melee which had near limitless possibilities for
also there's a point where mindgames and luck collide, playing bad players it's still highly luck because they do random things and just BUTTON MASH and can hit you back if they time it right a lot of the time due to no hit stun, and for a competitive game you want as many guaranteed things as possible to **** the opponent. ****** people is hardly even possible due to trading hits, unless you're like Ike who hits super hard, or Pit or Olimar who just endlessly camps you, or something along those lines.
this debate is pointless, no matter how much depth we find in brawl, it WON'T make up for what was taken out already.
you guys don't know what you are talking about, brawl is a highly luck based game compared to melee, which is based on your actual skill
brawl you get punished for hitting them, meaning the only way to hit them safely is to do campy gay moves which is not fun, and anybody can do it equally
the increase in skill you can get due to game mechanics far limits you to what you can do contrary to melee which had near limitless possibilities for
also there's a point where mindgames and luck collide, playing bad players it's still highly luck because they do random things and just BUTTON MASH and can hit you back if they time it right a lot of the time due to no hit stun, and for a competitive game you want as many guaranteed things as possible to **** the opponent. ****** people is hardly even possible due to trading hits, unless you're like Ike who hits super hard, or Pit or Olimar who just endlessly camps you, or something along those lines.
this debate is pointless, no matter how much depth we find in brawl, it WON'T make up for what was taken out already.
also my opinion on everyone's melee skill is that everyone is terrible, that everyone has tons of room for improvement in this game but it will never be reached because of brawls arrival. I don't want to hear in many years from now how the brawl metagame caught up to the current melee metagame, cuz to me everyone in melee just plain sucks ***, and even the best players can improve like 5 times if we had a few more years. I'm not even joking in this post whatsoever, this is dead seriously my opinion on everything I just said.
edit - also shielding IS broken, if you can't get off the shield grab then you roll backwards with NO penaly at all, it's a boring waiting game a lot more than melee was
What a noob >_<.THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME that SUPER MARIO BROS WAS NOT A FIGHTING GAME
I DID NOT KNOW THAT