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I definitely need receipts on that. Frankly it’s upsetting if it’s truly to be removed. It’s a great mechanic. The competitive players are great, yes, but not everything they say is for the good of the game. Part of it is what they specifically want or don’t want, and use their influence.
What exactly do you mean? Unless you're playing with items on and a Bob-omb slides into your dms, I can't see how a Star/Screen KO can screw anyone out of a victory
Here's a video of an unlucky Screen KO:
Eh... I mean yeah it can happen but it doesn't look like a huge deal imo so it likely will get ignored.
So easy fix, just have the game play the animation of the screen/star KO, yet classify them as a lost stock before the animation starts so it wont happen. There is no need for a toggle, or fear, but a small change when the game registers the player as dead.
My point is, it's inconsistent. There should be consistency in my opinion.
And changing the way the game registers a lost stock would give that consistency, while keeping the surprise of the seemingly random star/screen KO.
I don't know if that's possible. Someone tried to do that mod for "Smash 4", and it ended up being unfeasible.
Right, but there could be reason for that somewhere else inside the game code that it would essentially break. Ultimate on the other hand is built from the ground up, so it currently isn't too late to implement I would imagine, given that there is still 5 months left until release.
Even better would be, that Star KOs only happen, when people get launched from a standing position or some moves will always trigger a Star KO (like Jigglypuff's Rest).
This only happens in Time-Matches.
I agree on the Rest part, such a high risk move like Rest should be given not only the reward of taking a stock (if landed of course) and having the time to wake up.
My phone wont load that video for whatever reason, but I will say that I know non-star/screen KOs can randomly make Puff's rest (her best tool) unsafe on kill. I understand the salt, I mean it's not like that character needs any more weaknesses.
The video was of Little Mac going off stage and getting a kill but hitting the bottom of the screen before the Star KO counted and thus lost the match.
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you listed those on the OP but I can't find anything of the like
I actually wish Rest's behavior from "Smash 64" and "Smash Melee" would return. It doesn't have to be exactly like those two games, but I at least want the knockback to be similar to those two games. The vertical knockback from "Smash Brawl" and "Smash 4" is bad in my opinion.
So I'm honestly hoping "Smash Ultimate" will change that and will truly be the ultimate "Smash" game. No random elements (tripping from "Smash Brawl" and top KO RNG from "Smash 4"), all consistency. And if things actually go right for competitiveness...in my view, the order would be "Smash 64", then "Smash Melee", then "Smash Ultimate", from beginning to end ("Smash Brawl" and "Smash 4" don't exist to me; no offense to the others).
I agree. Its like there have been constant efforts just to undermine Puff's viability since Melee and it sucks.I actually wish Rest's behavior from "Smash 64" and "Smash Melee" would return. It doesn't have to be exactly like those two games, but I at least want the knockback to be similar to those two games. The vertical knockback from "Smash Brawl" and "Smash 4" is bad in my opinion.
In any case, if that instant stock-taken idea (Star KOs/Screen KOs only) is somehow implemented in "Smash Ultimate", I'll gladly accept it, even if it's not perfect. In fact, I'll gladly use any mod (or any GameShark/Game Genie code) that makes top KOs only Star KOs/Screen KOs occurring. Usually, I'm against these, but I'll gladly make an exception. I just want consistency for the top KOs.
I have tried to look past the top KO randomness in "Smash 4" over the years, but I'm so annoyed by the randomness that it's literally become unenjoyable for me now.
So first things first - this demo is not 6 months from release. The demo would have been prepared from an earlier iteration. As it is a demo, if it's not a gamebreaking bug they could very well have kept it in to avoid the "fix" causing further issues (as programming is prone to). The demo was likely prepared much earlier this year for E3.
Pretty sure we mean to get past the shield without being punished.
I might be missing something - I'll straight up admit as a long-time Fox main seeing Fox's illusion stop when it hits shield makes me cry so I have some bias there haha.
But is it really bad or just different?
Edit: Ignore me, I misread.
Does this mean you can deal more pummel damage by just having a white pikmin in your line instead of at the front like in sm4sh?
So that means grabs don't have special qualities depending on the Pikmin you use anymore.
That raises a question then, what's the point of the Blue Pikmin?
Not necessarily. The lead pikmin can still decide the throw's properties, but the damage and/or knockback can add additional scaling based on number of Pikmin.
For the first one: Marth is voiced in english, so why would they not voice Roy in English? It would be incredibly stupid for Nintendo to say, "We don't want Marth to be voiced in Japanese in English countries so he can be understood better" (or whatever there reasoning is) and then not have Roy be voiced in English.Also I didn't get an answer so I'll ask again, where does it say Roy has an English voice and where does it say Daisy has a Wedding alt?
Probably not, because unless they increased bonus shield damage too, that would decrease the utility of moves like Shield Breaker.
Everything has drastically reduced landing lag.
