The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]

[B_AWAL]

Sheena > Collette #IJS

ToS was one of my favorite experiences in life. Close 2 losing my virginity.

#Jokes

 

[Cassio]

I forgot who I told but Id said his match vs Earth was a demonstration video on why Uair was pikas best move. His utilization of crouching and backwards crawl was really interesting too, the position it takes his tail is really safe esp since uair can extend so quickly from it, and dtilt -> jump can give him full backwards momentum.

Also I think people are underrating diddy vs MK at least a little since ADHD stopped playing as much, hes the only one whos had significant success against MK as far as I know in America (gnes too but not nearly as much).

 

[B_AWAL]

P1, Gdx & Biglou (Good diddy mains that can beat MKS)

 

[Kuro~]

Sheena > Collette #IJS

ToS was one of my favorite experiences in life. Close 2 losing my virginity.

#Jokes

Right there w/ya bro XD. I love em all but sheena and regal are my favorite.


Wonder what the list is gonna look like once gnes and/or adhd get removed...

 

[Dcold]

I wouldn't say in any way that P1, Gdx, and BigLou are in the same class as ADHD and Gnes, especially when it comes to the MK matchup, no disrespect to any of them as they're good players. Pretty much what Cassio said.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I forgot who I told but Id said his match vs Earth was a demonstration video on why Uair was pikas best move. His utilization of crouching and backwards crawl was really interesting too, the position it takes his tail is really safe esp since uair can extend so quickly from it, and dtilt -> jump can give him full backwards momentum.

THe crawling thing is really mediocre against anybody that has range. Earth chose the absolute worst option in that situation...he could've used ANY actual attack to hit the crawl, or at least make him shield...

 

[B_AWAL]

Gnes & Adhd wudnt get removed.

They are kinda like M2K w/ MK. They MADE Diddy

After Ninjalink

And they cud just simply come in out of nowhere and wreck so I say after 6months of inactivity a person should b taken off

 

[Player-1]

ADHD was pretty much in the same boat as gnes. He was losing a lot to m2k when he was active, not up mention anti

 

[Cassio]

THe crawling thing is really mediocre against anybody that has range. Earth chose the absolute worst option in that situation...he could've used ANY actual attack to hit the crawl, or at least make him shield...

It was vs Selcia I believe, although I was thinking it could be better used in another way...

 

[RaptorTEC]

It was vs Selcia I believe, although I was thinking it could be better used in another way...

Don't think I don't see that Pikachu in your sig cause I do ;D

 

[Mew2King]

i beat adhd last 7 sets (most recent set, GF of clash1 which chibo never put online, i went all-aggro and 2 and 3 stocked him first 2 games), gnes last 3, i think it's pretty even tho, i just put ridiculous work into the MU last year, also, none of the other diddys are even close to them 2 (and I think gnes and adhd are more or less even in skill overall). 3rd best diddy would probably be Felix or Anti unless there is a great japan diddy i am unaware of or something.

pikachu i think either mk wins 55 or it's 50 50

i also think fox beats MK for sure (MK is obviously better overall by a lot but i do think fox wins head to head w/out question), but USA has no foxes on that level or even close to that level (TKD is mexico)

 

[B_AWAL]

Wait... why doesn't M2K always just go aggro??? M2K aggro > everything else???

 

[Player-1]

I feel aggro knight is a lot better than a campy MK in the MU.... I mean we have 2 projectiles while MK has 0

 

[ぱみゅ]

Aggro Knight generates lots of openings. That's why Nairo gets beaten a lot for the most unexpected stuff.

 

[Luxord]

I've seen better players win every match up from -4 to +4.

Ook v Mike on Green Greens
that is all

Can fox's usmash trade with MKs dair (even if its spaced)? If it can it be done out of a shield/pshield fast enough to trade?

 

[Zano]

The diddy list is probably still gonna have gnes and adhd for a while, chances are they'll be entering random events enough to keep them on the lists, plus no one else could really take their place atm.

Spoiler

Esam's avi still ****ing sucks

 

[Tesh]

Ook v Mike on Green Greens
that is all

Can fox's usmash trade with MKs dair (even if its spaced)? If it can it be done out of a shield/pshield fast enough to trade?

If you mean like a rising Dair, I'm pretty sure he is just too high to get hit by it, but you can probably get him with an aerial.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Lets watch ESAM run into the same attack 3 times in a row.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1lWe_7fmA#t=06m51s

Spoiler

hint: next time fsmash >_>

LOLWTF Eric. Just message me and I'll teach you how to beat .

If you mean like a rising Dair, I'm pretty sure he is just too high to get hit by it, but you can probably get him with an aerial.

Depends where is. A Sh Dair is super unsafe in general and can be Usmash'd because 's body will be susceptible to a hit. Dair camping in the air even when it connects cannot be Usmash'd if spaced because the sword doesn't cover a hurtbox.

I'll just say that is probably top 6 vs to be honest. The matchup is close to even, but 's adaptability makes it switch to a +1 unfortunately. The options he has is simply better then 's.

's "hardest" matchups in no order: , , , , , , , .

Edit: I don't see how and could be -1 vs . I just don't...

#justsayingsinceeveryonebeingretarded

 

[Eddie G]

He doesn't play Wolf, Gull... xD

 

[Seagull Joe]

He doesn't play Wolf, Gull... xD

That is true, but I can help him regardless. The concept of beating is similar. It just depends on how the character is on shield vs her me thinks.

 

[KT Kasrani]

Im back and i demand 2nd spot as best TL. i will prove at SKTAR that ya boy still got wat it takes.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Im back and i demand 2nd spot as best TL. i will prove at SKTAR that ya boy still got wat it takes.

You're definitely the best at the matchup for sure.

 

[z00ted]

Seagull lost to Nicole at APEX 2012, I saw it with my own two eyes.

 

[MeekSpeedy]

Im back and i demand 2nd spot as best TL. i will prove at SKTAR that ya boy still got wat it takes.

The king has returned YEEEAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUHHH

But on the real w/ the Diddy list. People can't just take those spots...not until Diddy mains get better @ the game. Those 2 are just...leagues ahead of other Diddy Kongs, and the results prove it.

 

[z00ted]

Kingtoon has always been the best Toon Link.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Seagull lost to Nicole at APEX 2012, I saw it with my own two eyes.

Your point being? I don't even have a negative record with her. She's the only who has ever taken a set from me LOL.

 

[Tesh]

Oh snap, SEAGULL VS ILLMATIC 50 MILLION DOLLARS AT WHOBO 4!

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

illmatic would prob tear dat *** up seagull. #jussayin

 

[Espy Rose]

He doesn't play Wolf, Seagull. Your lupine influenced advice is an exercise in futility.

 

[Luigi player]

Jash has always been the best Toon Link.

yup, I agree

 

[Trela]

Your lupine influenced advice is an exercise in futility.

Is it a bad thing that I had to type all of that into google to fully understand what you said?

 

[Espy Rose]

Poor little Riolu.

 

[Eddie G]

Most top s are the same, some just more proficient at certain matchups than others. MJG is the most patient of them all imho.

ADHD and Gnes are clearly still leagues ahead of other s. I can literally pick out a clear habit in any Diddy's playstyle except for Gnes'. For example: AZ loves to roll a lot/control the ground most of the time (his air mixups have always been lacking), and Zinoto seems to LOVE running back and forth a lot with a banana placed in front of him until he feels it necessary to throw out a SH fair. Still have yet to see anything Gnes does that isn't, at face value, a simple adaptation to a situation.

Seagull vs Illmatic would be close. Seagull vs passion-less Illmatic would be a landslide. Sure, Seagull has a fetish (lol), but the man does put in the work with his character. There's no denying that.

 

[DRN]

Edit: I don't see how and could be -1 vs . I just don't...

#justsayingsinceeveryonebeingretarded

I'm actually of the opinion that : is even. I've thought this for a while and is after I've played Tyrant, m2k, seibrik, dojo, Zero, ect. I can go more in-depth sometime once I'm off my phone and on a computer. I've also talked to nick riddle and Dakpo a little about it and both somewhat agree but have personal problems with the match up.

 

[Zinoto]

ADHD and Gnes shouldn't be taken off this list for a while to come, they are much better than any other candidate for that spot. The skill gap between 1/2 and 3-5 is kind of large. I'm curious as to the results of the other diddy's like GDX, Vato, Fliphop, etc.

 

[Orion*]

's "hardest" matchups in no order: , , , , , , , .

Edit: I don't see how and could be -1 vs . I just don't...

Replace wolf with Marth and I can agree I guess

yup, I agree

^ what LP changed

i also think fox beats MK for sure (MK is obviously better overall by a lot but i do think fox wins head to head w/out question)

what changed your opinion on this

 

[Player-1]

Most top s are the same, some just more proficient at certain matchups than others. MJG is the most patient of them all imho.

ADHD and Gnes are clearly still leagues ahead of other s. I can literally pick out a clear habit in any Diddy's playstyle except for Gnes'. For example: AZ loves to roll a lot/control the ground most of the time (his air mixups have always been lacking), and Zinoto seems to LOVE running back and forth a lot with a banana placed in front of him until he feels it necessary to throw out a SH fair. Still have yet to see anything Gnes does that isn't, at face value, a simple adaptation to a situation.

Seagull vs Illmatic would be close. Seagull vs passion-less Illmatic would be a landslide. Sure, Seagull has a fetish (lol), but the man does put in the work with his character. There's no denying that.

gnes likes to throw bananas, also anytime he is sent off stage he recovers. Pretty bad habits IMO

You're saying it like habits are a bad thing, they only are when your opponent starts to pick up on it and punish you but you fail to adapt

 

[Seagull Joe]

Most top s are the same, some just more proficient at certain matchups than others. MJG is the most patient of them all imho.

ADHD and Gnes are clearly still leagues ahead of other s. I can literally pick out a clear habit in any Diddy's playstyle except for Gnes'. For example: AZ loves to roll a lot/control the ground most of the time (his air mixups have always been lacking), and Zinoto seems to LOVE running back and forth a lot with a banana placed in front of him until he feels it necessary to throw out a SH fair. Still have yet to see anything Gnes does that isn't, at face value, a simple adaptation to a situation.

Seagull vs Illmatic would be close. Seagull vs passion-less Illmatic would be a landslide. Sure, Seagull has a fetish (lol), but the man does put in the work with his character. There's no denying that.

Illmatic doesn't know lol. Least that's what I have understood from playing him on Wi-Fi. Though who knows...I'll MM him for like $5 bucks at Whobo.

fetish...? Lol...? I talk about my character the same way everyone else talks about theirs. I'm not a furry or anything of the sort. I'm just passionate towards who I use in brawl.

 

[z00ted]

i'd woop ya ***, seagull

i beat you like 5-2 on wifi wtf are you talking about budddd

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Love ya Joe, but I gotta put money on the mans peach. Dat **** cray.