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It must be a pathetic conflicted existence to enjoy a game enough to frequent forums devoted to it but at the same time be convinced anyone who spends their free time on it is a complete loser. I knew a bunch of kids like you in high school. Being cool isn't about doing what you think others would have you do. The coolest kids in highschool are completely open about their dorky habbits and are confident enough that nobody gives them **** for it, and if someone does give them **** they're confident enough to shrug it off and continue to enjoy doing what they're doing (not that I think I'm cool in the slightest). Hopefully one day you'll look back and how silly being a drone was. Seeing how many tournaments you attend I don't even think you're in a position to judge what kind of time commitment a 22+ year old would need to devote to play competitive smash. I can assure you it's a very small sacrifice, cept for loser's pour, that is rough.
I suppose my tangent and armchair psychiatry were uncalled for, for that I am sorry. Without assuming, you're the guy who tells other people how they should be spending their lives. The WoW example isn't quite as bad though, because you aren't going on the WoW forums to tell them what they should change about their lives. Surely someone with your credentials must see how silly that is. I personally wasn't a smoke in the parking lot type, but if those kids were fun to hang out with and didn't bug me about my life choices I don't see what stops them from being cool. I don't think recreational drug use changes much in that respect.I’m supposed to believe that the guy sitting next to me in AP Computer Science, who spends the period posting on WoW boards and is then “completely open about [his] dorky habbits” by telling me he plays World of Warcraft for five hours every night is therefore “cool,” because after I tell him he’s wasting his life away, “[he’s] confident enough to shrug it off and continues to enjoy doing what [he’s] doing”? Hmm. I guess all the stoners who sit in the corner of the parking lot and don’t give a rat’s a$$ about my opinion are “cool” too. That is a truly skewed definition of cool, Fonz, which is why I’m glad to know you don’t find yourself “cool in the slightest.”
You're comparing jaywalking and mass murder. Not only are you judging a community whose message boards you frequent by choice (odd?) but you're telling people what they should be doing with their life at a point in it you've never experienced. If you think that doesn't matter you're mistaken. I expect most 22 year olds view of life has changed significantly since highschool.Yea, I don’t go to tournies that often, and it feels great. Does that mean I can’t judge from my tournament experiences? Wtf logic is that? I guess I shouldn’t judge cocaine addicts either because hey, until you blow a line of crack, your in “no position to judge.” Everyone who believes that stand on your fvcking head.
If there were nothing but high school kids at tournaments I went to it would be a problem certainly. The younger TA are great people, but the age gap is noticable. There are a large number of 22+ smashers who I have a great time hanging out with, thats why I keep coming. Aho, Rickr, Egy5, Hova, Kirbstir, and Greg are the smashers I spend the most of my smashing time with, and they're all 22+. There are also a large number of 20-21 year old active smashers in the area, that gap is not very wide. I still don't get why you need to judge what people should be doing. If they have fun and don't hurt you, why does it bother you so much? Maybe I read something into this that simply wasn't there, but it sure makes me wonder.Sure, I understand Joe’s point, how much can it hurt if it’s just something one does on the side. Go smash with you’re college buddies or roommates. I know plenty of guys even in their thirties and forties who still play video games. But do they go to tournaments on the weekends? Do they join chat boards filled with teens and college kids? No. That shiit is awkward. Granted, someone who’s 25 isn’t the same as a 35 year old, but man, there are SO many other things one could be doing.
There is SO much out there. So definitely don’t play smash competitively when you could be doing something with you’re time, like learning a skill or traveling, or god knows what. I really wouldn't want to be remembered as a "professional gamer."I can't speak for my peers, but I certainly am not a professional gamer, and I have no aspirations to become one. If they do though, good for them. Smashing means I can't travel or do other things? Should all of my time be spent doing other things? Maybe you should check out some of the stories on TA.net to see how we spend many of our weekends. Most recent post is a trip 3 of us life wasting smashers took to NY to see a concert and explore the city. We smashed with a buddy in Delaware on the way up, what a waste huh?
Grats? To each his own.As for me, I just like the game. Scratch that, I love to smash. Like any great video game its like a drug. Do I see myself in say, 4 years, going to smash tournies out in Berkeley? No. I’ll play every once in a while when a buddy comes over or wants to play online.
Yes, heaven forbid someone judges your reasons for coming on here. I must have some nerve.When I visit the boards or (“frequent forums devoted to [smash]”), and the by “the boards” mainly just this thread, its to see if anybody wants to smash or is holding a fest/tourney, and also to see if anyone's dumb enough to step into a losing argument (Wuss). So get off my jock.
It's easy to shrug off arguements when you believe that anyone who disagrees has something wrong with them.Do I think everyone is a loser? No. But man, if you still think this argument is invalid, you’ve got something wrong with you.
You have gotta be kidding me. You were really hoping for that? You can only lead a horse to water? Wow.I just figured as long as I'm writing a long @$$ post I may as well reaffirm my initial statement. I was hoping to evoke some sort of wake-up call in the community. But hey, you can only lead a horse to water...
Someone's gay....long a$$ posts, good **** guys!
Brian, I'm ready to argue over something anytime Only if it's in a respectful manner, and obviously without flaming. I'd actually love to argue with you over real sh** like compatabilism, or the problems with utilitariansism. I'd rather enjoy discussing these things with you or even fonz for that matter
I completely agree.I don't think people should choose to play soccer competitively just because it is "respected by society"; they should play because 1) they love the game and 2) they are good at it, or are willing to learn how to be more competitive at it.
Completely irrelevant and changing rapidly. Video games are more and more respected every year. Look how huge starcraft competitions are in South Korea. The respect means nothing though. They're both just games that people play and watch because they enjoy them. Soccer wasn't always so huge, there has to be pioneers for every sport or competitive activity. If none of soccer's pioneers started playing it because kick the can (or whatever was popular before soccer) was much more popular it wouldn't be anywhere now. Same goes for video games, who knows how popular they will be in 100 years.bizybozo said:Smash isn't soccer though. It just isn't. Soccer is this globally reknown sport respected by billions of people, with tons of players and fans abound. It's been around forever and will stay around for centuries. I could go on and on about it, but I mean, you get the picture, no? Smash is, well, its a video game, man. And appropriately, it recieves not even a morsel of the respect and recognition that a sport like soccer deserves.