Social The Suburbs of Onett - Ness Social Thread

[Luco]

Ha, that's awesome. I'm currently getting my girlfriend to start playing Earthbound on PC, just scared she'll stop playing because I'm not sure if she likes RPG's too much

I'm a little scared that my flatmate will stop playing, and I was a lot more scared before yesterday because she hadn't played for a couple weeks and was never in the mood to play, but after yesterday she really seemed to enjoy herself so I'm hoping she'll continue. Once this part of the program ends I also have a few other members of our group I want to play through it. I'll try to give you guys updates as it happens.

 

[Lochy]

Hey guys haven't posted for a bit. Just wanted to say hi. I've been getting into smash 64, melee and project m and they are all a blast to play.
Lucas in project m is beautiful. :,)

 

[Luco]

Lucas is really interesting in P:M - I heard he and Ness used to be broken as hell in it hahaha.

Also played some Melee a couple months ago, really wanna play it again. ;_;

 

[SuperTorn]

Lucas is really interesting in P:M - I heard he and Ness used to be broken as hell in it hahaha.

Also played some Melee a couple months ago, really wanna play it again. ;_;

Lucas is #2 on the Project M 3.5 tier list, such a huge revamp when he's E in Brawl so Lucas mains must be proud

 

[Luco]

Where is the P:M 3.5 tier list if I may ask? I looked around but didn't find much.

 

[SuperTorn]

Where is the P:M 3.5 tier list if I may ask? I looked around but didn't find much.

I think my memory's a bit foggy but my bff who's way more into competitive Smash than me, said Pit got a pretty good nerf in 3.5 making Lucas 2nd best but even so in the final tier list for PM 3.2 he was 3rd, that's still way better than his spot in Brawl

 

[Awakining]

Yo, everyone. So, I was looking around, and noticed a lack of a dedicated combo thread here. Given that I have been fiddling around in the lab for a while, and have a list well started, would there be any objections to me posting it once I finish?

 

[Luco]

Go for it! Anything that's been well-researched on Ness should definitely be used, it's too good not to. :D

 

[NekoJubei]

@Waael can we get that in our combo vid? Lol

How did he did that PK Fire at 0:44? O_o looks crazy lol

 

[Luco]

I'm pretty decent at timing PK Fire, I think I can get to the point where I'm doing it consistently. I'll practice it over the coming months. =D

 

[NekoJubei]

I hope they don't take out Ness's 1212 set :x because I use that and I'm making a video of some examples of using it ;D

 

[NekoJubei]

http://youtu.be/Sy1jY8NiBZ

 

[Luco]

That said, I forgot just how incredible PSI Vacuum would be against Mac. <3

 

[NekoJubei]

That said, I forgot just how incredible PSI Vacuum would be against Mac. <3

Yep! Just don't be stupid like me

 

[NekoJubei]

I think I found a 0 to death combo in teams with double Ness that requires PK bonfire.
Down throw > Footstool > Jab Lock > Then when you throw out the PK Bonfire, let your teammate jab you once to cancel the endlag and quickly perform a PSI Vaccum in the middle of the fire for a guaranteed lock in the Fire > Then your Ness buddy finishes it with a PKT2
I would try this but I don't have anyone to help me, lol

 

[Reckless4Christ]

That sounds broken. Like how much damage is that before the pkt2?

 

[NekoJubei]

That sounds broken. Like how much damage is that before the pkt2?

I would say 60% but if you want more percent, use PSI Vaccum to Jab lock because it does 10-11%

 

[Reckless4Christ]

Dang. And here I thought Ness was broken in doubles without customs lol

 

[Earthbound360]

Can't you just dthrow, footstool (ally), jab lock x3, regrab, and repeat until they are at PKT2 death percent? Then instead of just regrabbing with Ness, have your ally regrab and Ness PKT2 into the victim.

Sounds a lot simpler and doesn't require customs.

 

[yoshi8984]

So I think tonight I'm going to start testing dthrow combos in depth. I wanna what is guaranteed at different percents. I wanna know how rage affects things. And I really want to test DI but that could prove somewhat difficult. :V

I got a solid list of D-Throw follow-ups you can do on Fox (was in Training on a Level 9 of 3DS). Unsure if it's just me but I could barely do a D-Throw > Fair on Wii U b/c I felt I moved a bit slower so I'm unsure if they're actual follow-ups and it's like practically impossible for me to record me doing the combos on 3DS cause I'd somehow have to dangle my phone in mid-air as I'd play and record lol

 

[Luco]

You could do an actual match, save it at the end, go to replays and record it on your phone then? You could even do like a 15 stock match and save that this way, then edit it on your phone later and crop out all the non-dthrow stuff?

 

[ROBnWatch]

I got a solid list of D-Throw follow-ups you can do on Fox (was in Training on a Level 9 of 3DS). Unsure if it's just me but I could barely do a D-Throw > Fair on Wii U b/c I felt I moved a bit slower so I'm unsure if they're actual follow-ups and it's like practically impossible for me to record me doing the combos on 3DS cause I'd somehow have to dangle my phone in mid-air as I'd play and record lol

I only play on Wii U, and it's pretty hard to stay out of, and it's almost a guaranteed triple fair on the taller characters. Maybe it's just you, or maybe it's just that I'm too used to doing it...

 

[NekoJubei]

Can't you just dthrow, footstool (ally), jab lock x3, regrab, and repeat until they are at PKT2 death percent? Then instead of just regrabbing with Ness, have your ally regrab and Ness PKT2 into the victim.

Sounds a lot simpler and doesn't require customs.

Don't be a party pooper, it has to be stylish <3

 

[PSIBoy]

Don't be a party pooper, it has to be stylish <3

Frankly, I prefer efficiency over being a show-off (no offense). But I will not destroy your fun if you are going for style, just saying it probably won't work as well.

 

[NekoJubei]

Frankly, I prefer efficiency over being a show-off (no offense). But I will not destroy your fun if you are going for style, just saying it probably won't work as well.

Haha is alright we are not all the same
I don't even have a teams partner xP I'm just exploring the 1212 set which is PK Bonfire and PSI Vaccum

 

[Earthbound360]

Lol not trying to be a party pooper. Just offering a similar solution for those of us who don't dig customs.

 

[Qoo]

ive been thinking about grab release setups.. unfortunately ness seems to have too much lag to make this work :\ (idk the exact frames)
the only move that seems to be in range (on big characters) is usmash and probably nair

this is kinda useless tbh but i think it can work as surprise factor, maybe if we can predict the di we can aim the nair better?
what do u guys think? should i look into this more deeply or has this already been discussed ;;

 

[Earthbound360]

ive been thinking about grab release setups.. unfortunately ness seems to have too much lag to make this work :\ (idk the exact frames)
the only move that seems to be in range (on big characters) is usmash and probably nair

this is kinda useless tbh but i think it can work as surprise factor, maybe if we can predict the di we can aim the nair better?
what do u guys think? should i look into this more deeply or has this already been discussed ;;

What grab release setups are you referring to? Just on stage grab releases into follow ups? Grab releases over the edge?

 

[Qoo]

What grab release setups are you referring to? Just on stage grab releases into follow ups? Grab releases over the edge?

i was talking about just grab release into follow up but honestly that doesnt seem to be going anywhere
over the ledge tho i found that dsmash can kinnnd of work if the opponent tries to reach the ledge too early.. its a bit underwhelming tho :\

 

[yoshi8984]

Was in an online 3DS tourney and got 2nd/20 (though it was like top 16 playoffs for a ladder so lol). Had to go against the host for my first set and then for Grand Finals. She's one of my best friends and considered the best Sonic in Canada (and a pretty damn good Kirby too).

I choke in Grand Finals cause I had 20 more secs to kill to time out Sonic (on Yoshi's) and then I did F-Tilt by accident which set the stage for me to get B-Thrown then Bair'd.

I feel like literally the only thing I can do in that MU is Nair, god it's stressful lol.

Believe there should be vids of it up soon.

 

[NekoJubei]

Lol not trying to be a party pooper. Just offering a similar solution for those of us who don't dig customs.

I know <3

 

[Earthbound360]

Was in an online 3DS tourney and got 2nd/20 (though it was like top 16 playoffs for a ladder so lol). Had to go against the host for my first set and then for Grand Finals. She's one of my best friends and considered the best Sonic in Canada (and a pretty damn good Kirby too).

I choke in Grand Finals cause I had 20 more secs to kill to time out Sonic (on Yoshi's) and then I did F-Tilt by accident which set the stage for me to get B-Thrown then Bair'd.

I feel like literally the only thing I can do in that MU is Nair, god it's stressful lol.

Believe there should be vids of it up soon.

Good stuff man. Yeah Sonic is hard for Ness, nair is easily his best tool here. It always sucks to have your nerves get ya.

I once lost a match to a dude on stream when I had like a 40% lead. I was nervous so I didn't watch the timer, which only had like a minute left. I was too fixated on getting a legit KO on him for some reason and lost XD

 

[Krysco]

Got myself a lovely migraine last night from the cancer that is most Ness players on For Glory doubles. "PK Fire! PK Fire! PK Fire!". They don't spam it in 1v1 (or at least not as much) since they don't have a teammate to cover them but my god. My cousin and I left so many groups just so we didn't have to deal with the spam and I ended up quitting earlier than him for once thanks to my migraine.

And I have answers to PK Fire happy Ness players in Rosa, Falco and Toon Link but I'd rather not limit myself to 3 characters just to deal with someone who only knows how to use one move, plus no matter what character I use, I'm still gonna get a headache eventually from hearing him shout that damn move so many times.

Rant over, For Glory doubles can be cancer at times thanks to the likes of spammy Ness' (among other characters) and this post is mostly just to follow up a joke my cousin and I had last night where I said I should ***** to the Ness boards about some of the awful people who use their character.~

 

[ROBnWatch]

Got myself a lovely migraine last night from the cancer that is most Ness players on For Glory doubles. "PK Fire! PK Fire! PK Fire!". They don't spam it in 1v1 (or at least not as much) since they don't have a teammate to cover them but my god. My cousin and I left so many groups just so we didn't have to deal with the spam and I ended up quitting earlier than him for once thanks to my migraine.

And I have answers to PK Fire happy Ness players in Rosa, Falco and Toon Link but I'd rather not limit myself to 3 characters just to deal with someone who only knows how to use one move, plus no matter what character I use, I'm still gonna get a headache eventually from hearing him shout that damn move so many times.

Rant over, For Glory doubles can be cancer at times thanks to the likes of spammy Ness' (among other characters) and this post is mostly just to follow up a joke my cousin and I had last night where I said I should ***** to the Ness boards about some of the awful people who use their character.~

I am never on For Glory, still gonna practice before I go there, so it wasn't me.

 

[Earthbound360]

Got myself a lovely migraine last night from the cancer that is most Ness players on For Glory doubles. "PK Fire! PK Fire! PK Fire!". They don't spam it in 1v1 (or at least not as much) since they don't have a teammate to cover them but my god. My cousin and I left so many groups just so we didn't have to deal with the spam and I ended up quitting earlier than him for once thanks to my migraine.

And I have answers to PK Fire happy Ness players in Rosa, Falco and Toon Link but I'd rather not limit myself to 3 characters just to deal with someone who only knows how to use one move, plus no matter what character I use, I'm still gonna get a headache eventually from hearing him shout that damn move so many times.

Rant over, For Glory doubles can be cancer at times thanks to the likes of spammy Ness' (among other characters) and this post is mostly just to follow up a joke my cousin and I had last night where I said I should ***** to the Ness boards about some of the awful people who use their character.~

You don't need to use a different character to combat PKF spam. You need to learn how to use the shield.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I've never been on For Glory either.

 

[ROBnWatch]

You don't need to use a different character to combat PKF spam. You need to learn how to use the shield.

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PK Burned!

(No offense to anyone)

 

[Krysco]

You don't need to use a different character to combat PKF spam. You need to learn how to use the shield.

Shield works until the partner of the Ness grabs you and there's lag to deal with too. Best john ever right there. Sides, it's a lot more fun to either reflect or absorb their spam or beat spammy Ness' with spam of my own that they can't absorb. Much more fun than repeatedly shielding PK Fires or heck short hopping over it and just fairing him. No point in trying to have a serious doubles match with someone who relies on a gimmick so we go for our own gimmicks xD

...

PK Burned!

(No offense to anyone)

None taken. As I said, my first post was largely a follow up from a joke anyways. Likewise, I mean no offense to any Ness players...least until their spam gives me a headache.

 

[Reckless4Christ]

Got myself a lovely migraine last night from the cancer that is most Ness players on For Glory doubles. "PK Fire! PK Fire! PK Fire!". They don't spam it in 1v1 (or at least not as much) since they don't have a teammate to cover them but my god. My cousin and I left so many groups just so we didn't have to deal with the spam and I ended up quitting earlier than him for once thanks to my migraine.

And I have answers to PK Fire happy Ness players in Rosa, Falco and Toon Link but I'd rather not limit myself to 3 characters just to deal with someone who only knows how to use one move, plus no matter what character I use, I'm still gonna get a headache eventually from hearing him shout that damn move so many times.

Rant over, For Glory doubles can be cancer at times thanks to the likes of spammy Ness' (among other characters) and this post is mostly just to follow up a joke my cousin and I had last night where I said I should ***** to the Ness boards about some of the awful people who use their character.~

Maybe it's because I'm weird, but this made my day.

 

[NekoJubei]

Paula for Smash pls :<