Sonic Orochi
Smash Ace
Guide vid is up. Should be good for Sonic novices, I hope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMRTsGfy0c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMRTsGfy0c
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The Sonic Glitch/Tech/Non-obvious move list & Gimp Guide *updated 2/16*
- Thread starter TwinkleToes
- Start date
FrostByte
Smash Lord
Good stuff, I think that deserves it's own thread too. There's a lot in there.
Umby
Smash Master
Top notch Orochi. I didn't even think about delayed DAC.
The end was genius btw. Added to vid thread.
The end was genius btw. Added to vid thread.
Sonic Orochi
Smash Ace
Okay, maybe I should make a thread alright... so people can ask stuff about it there.
Glad you guys liked it =)
EDIT: lol, the ending was something I thought at the last minute... I do think it's cool, though
Glad you guys liked it =)
EDIT: lol, the ending was something I thought at the last minute... I do think it's cool, though
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
Added air tripping to the list. It's an interesting find that started from Yuna's thread about air tripping and the many reports of air tripping with various characters. Sonic's "air trip" was debunked as a glitch and not a game mechanic; however, I kept the entry name to "air trip" in honor of all those who researched it :o
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
....Really?
Yes.
I was trying to do it on purpose yesterday. You can actually still do stuff if you do them before the air trip animation starts xD
Forgot to try to see if it would still work the same if you cancelled the tumble with f-air, cause that's what I usually do if I aim to spring that close to the floor.
I was trying to do it on purpose yesterday. You can actually still do stuff if you do them before the air trip animation starts xD
Forgot to try to see if it would still work the same if you cancelled the tumble with f-air, cause that's what I usually do if I aim to spring that close to the floor.
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
?
I don't see why not Zeal D:
I don't see why not Zeal D:
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
I was still under the impression that it didn't actually exist, and Yuna was just refusing to acknowledge that he was mistaken.
Browny
Smash Hater
omg i got an ASC KO today, falco chased me up, going for a u-air KO, 3-tap charged vB hits him and star KO's at 120% :>>>
i thought it was completely impractical, but its got a huge surprise factor.
i thought it was completely impractical, but its got a huge surprise factor.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Why is that?
What about the two videos he had provided?
i think you can prevent the airtripping by attacking before you land.
I'll test it out but it should work.
What about the two videos he had provided?
i think you can prevent the airtripping by attacking before you land.
I'll test it out but it should work.
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
Zeal, air tripping as Yuna presented it was non-existant, and I am reasonably confident that he's just being obstinate about it at this point. But, since it's possible to purposely recreate the event, I would classify it as a glitch. And to prevent people from posting it here or accidentally falling victim to it in game I posted the entry up.
Browny
Smash Hater
more things
u-air priority etc
today i u-air against my brother who was doing his d-air as toon link, and it went straight through it. ive also seen videos where it goes through things like rob's nair. discuss
u-air priority etc
today i u-air against my brother who was doing his d-air as toon link, and it went straight through it. ive also seen videos where it goes through things like rob's nair. discuss
Umby
Smash Master
Hitbox attributes instead of priority, probably. idk.
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
Hitboxes are a quality of priority. Priority doesn't exist, etc etc.
its attack box extends slightly past the graphic of the clap- Lucario style.
You can beat Yoshi and Bowser's down-B with it xD
same with D3's up-B.
we need a move discussion thread lul.
yo, about the edge scraping, and the side B cancel:
if you look in the tactical discussion, there's a thread about why those happen. An interesting thread, and a great discovery...
btw, nice compilation, I'll be working my way through these when I get the chance ^_^
if you look in the tactical discussion, there's a thread about why those happen. An interesting thread, and a great discovery...
btw, nice compilation, I'll be working my way through these when I get the chance ^_^
Umby
Smash Master
Ugh. Tactical Discussion boards.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
God, why are you so jaded? its like you dont even want to be here
Terios the Hedgehog
Smash Hero
Umby
Smash Master
da K.I.D. has Boondocks in his signature. :o
thumbswayup
Smash Master
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
Yeah, I don't think you can control your DI for a bit, which naturally leads to bad things happening when you try to get back.
Well, it's more like
-[Homing attack into ceiling] (slides left)
-falls a bit, still moving left
-[Homing attack into ceiling] (slides right)
-falls a bit, holding left
and repeat.
seriously @.@:
though, one time, I was in a wifi 2v2 and I was trapped like this. A pikachu came in to try to finish me and HA locked on him and stage spiked LOL
but really, is there a trick to getting it to move in the direction you want to go?
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
Don't think so. And I don't know why the pikachu wouldn't just jolt you to 999 and then bother with the finish.
FrostByte
Smash Lord
It should be homing onto your opponent. If there's no opponent then you can control it.
If it hits a ceiling, don't you home in toward the ceiling no matter what? I've had some custom stages with little corridors and using HA in a corridor while opponent was under me = ceiling.
Oh, on another note, you can do a ground stall if the platform moves into you while you're charging (Onett trees, Orpheon?, Lylat Cruise...)
Oh, on another note, you can do a ground stall if the platform moves into you while you're charging (Onett trees, Orpheon?, Lylat Cruise...)
if a guy is standing on FD, and you are under the platform doing homing stall.
say for example he is in the middle of FD, he is still affecting your HA because your HA will try to hit him, but smack into a wall. (i;m assuming that he is in HA range at the middle of FD... which may not be true.. but the point is that if your opponent is in range of HA, it affects your control over it... hitting into the ceiling at the start of a HA doesent mean that you control it completely)
now if he is out of HA range completely, like if he is on the left of FD, and your on the right... then you have control over your HA and can DI it after it smacks thes ceiling.
and it is actually possible for oppenents to stand in certain places to make it so sonic cant stall forever on FD (but i sitll think this would be a great method for avoiding FS's... if you eve rplay with FS on.)
say for example he is in the middle of FD, he is still affecting your HA because your HA will try to hit him, but smack into a wall. (i;m assuming that he is in HA range at the middle of FD... which may not be true.. but the point is that if your opponent is in range of HA, it affects your control over it... hitting into the ceiling at the start of a HA doesent mean that you control it completely)
now if he is out of HA range completely, like if he is on the left of FD, and your on the right... then you have control over your HA and can DI it after it smacks thes ceiling.
and it is actually possible for oppenents to stand in certain places to make it so sonic cant stall forever on FD (but i sitll think this would be a great method for avoiding FS's... if you eve rplay with FS on.)
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
yes he does, because its awesome, and mind-expanding
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Speed is not a factor.
*points to Link's arrows in melee*
Terios the Hedgehog
Smash Hero
Speed is ALWAYS a factor when Sonic is involved. XD
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
*hits terios* you know what I mean.
Terios the Hedgehog
Smash Hero
You can't hit me. You're TOO SLOW!
Why all the arguing about what is or isn't part of priority? Sonic's sucks and that's all you need to know.
Why all the arguing about what is or isn't part of priority? Sonic's sucks and that's all you need to know.
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
but Sonic's his name and speed's his game ;-;
FrostByte
Smash Lord
You have to b-reversal (if that's what they call it now) the homing attack to control it. That's pressing the direction before you hit b.
Umby
Smash Master
b reversal seems to work except on Final D, if the opponent is near the center.
Okay, I figured it out, kinda.
If your opponent is out of range of your HA, you can control it via b-reversals.
If your opponent is in range, then that's when you start doing stupid crap like bouncing back and forth forever.
Also, I want someone to take a look into this:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=173957
some weird slide out of a sidestep.
If your opponent is out of range of your HA, you can control it via b-reversals.
If your opponent is in range, then that's when you start doing stupid crap like bouncing back and forth forever.
Also, I want someone to take a look into this:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=173957
some weird slide out of a sidestep.