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[cashregister9]

somebody leaked out Doomsday and Secret Wars concept art

Spoiler: possible spoilers so yeah

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also some Fantastic Four stuff

Spoiler: spoiler stuff as well

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#DOOPSWEEP

The Doom stuff would be so much cooler if I didn't know who was playing Doom

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Seeing people get mad about the Shrek 5 teaser and comparing it to Beta Movie Sonic is insane cause it's literally just Shrek, no drastic changes, literally doing things the original movie did with topical jokes and celebrity actors. Can someone explain to me why people are heated about it?

 

[Noipoi]

Seeing people get mad about the Shrek 5 teaser and comparing it to Beta Movie Sonic is insane cause it's literally just Shrek, no drastic changes, literally doing things the original movie did with topical jokes and celebrity actors. Can someone explain to me why people are heated about it?

Some people just hate any kind of change.

If you personally don’t vibe with the teaser that’s fine, but anyone comparing this to ugly Sonic clearly doesn’t remember or understand what it was like.

 

[TheMightyP]

New Shrek does look kinda weird imo.

Grabted I get the old Shrek style was kinda dated but I feel the more cleaner look doesn't really work for a more vulgar series.

Comparing it to Ugly Sonic is insane, new Shrek is just offputting at worse, Ugly Sonic was an abomination.

 

[Aurane]

I have anxiety attacks when it comes to change and even I didn't mind the new Shrek.

I do mind Donkey's changes though. A minor change made him look like a crack addict.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I have anxiety attacks when it comes to change and even I didn't mind the new Shrek.

I do mind Donkey's changes though. A minor change made him look like a crack addict.

I mean, DK's was actually noticable. Shrek's is less noticable than Kitty in Boots for Last Wish while people are shocked that Shrek would use celebrity voice actors as they were not alive when Mike Myers, Cameron Diaz and Eddie Murphy were big stars

 

[Aurane]

I mean, DK's was actually noticable. Shrek's is less noticable than Kitty in Boots for Last Wish while people are shocked that Shrek would use celebrity voice actors as they were not alive when Mike Myers, Cameron Diaz and Eddie Murphy were big stars

Donkey from Shrek. Not DK, I like DK's change.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Donkey from Shrek. Not DK, I like DK's change.

Brb I'm about to January 6th Nintendo for making me do this blunder

 

[ZephyrZ]

Relevant

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[Hydreigonfan01]

New Shrek does look kinda weird imo.

Grabted I get the old Shrek style was kinda dated but I feel the more cleaner look doesn't really work for a more vulgar series.

Comparing it to Ugly Sonic is insane, new Shrek is just offputting at worse, Ugly Sonic was an abomination.

Ugly Sonic was as horrific as the CGI the Cats movie had tbh. A complete and total abomination.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yeah, the hate for the Shrek redesigns is a bit much.

So many people are saying that he's either been "Disneyfied" or just made less "ugly" and thus going against one of the core messages of the series of not needing to be "perfect", or the fact that Shrek stood out from Disney and even some of Dreamworks' other own protagonists by not being conventionally good-looking,

I'm sorry, but...that's still very much Shrek lmao. Having a slightly differently shaped nose and eyes and having smoother, upgraded animation more than a decade later doesn't magically make his design a complete overhaul. Compared to so many other character redesigns out there, this is barely a change outside of the animation getting a serious upgrade.

 

[Hex D. Jess]

I don't like the new art style for Shrek but comparing it to Ugly Sonic is WILD

 

[Knight Dude]

Yeah, in Soul Silver, Heracross with Brick Break early on makes him a menace. Level grinding is slightly less of an issue, but I can't help but feel like the games need a difficulty setting. I know not every game does, but it's not exactly as challenging as a Battle Network title. Some of those post-game fights will have you pulling the Willem Dafoe face.

Seeing people get mad about the Shrek 5 teaser and comparing it to Beta Movie Sonic is insane cause it's literally just Shrek, no drastic changes, literally doing things the original movie did with topical jokes and celebrity actors. Can someone explain to me why people are heated about it?

Being mad for the sake of it. He's like 98% the same, and only minor changes that **** in Boots got in his 2nd film. Like I didn't even notice as much at first cause it's obvious to me that the CGI from the 2000's is gonna be different from 2020's CGI(unless it's live action workers being overworked).

With the way people are acting, you'd think it was some MCU over-designed suit with lines and panels and muted colors, but no, it's Shrek with a slightly sharper nose. If anything, the adjustments feel more like trying to edge closer to the book.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'll admit the Shrek 5 designs are pretty odd but not really to panic about to me.

 

[DynamicSmasher]

Honestly, I assumed the aim of the new design was to make him look older, now that he's a dad. I didn't even really clock that it was meant to be a (slight) change in art style lol.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly, I assumed the aim of the new design was to make him look older, now that he's a dad. I didn't even really clock that it was meant to be a (slight) change in art style lol.

I couldn't tell you the major changes other than a small detail that I don't even remember being in the movies, though I have not seen those movies in over a decade. Shrek has crow's feet, which does indeed make him look older

 

[cashregister9]

How quickly Shrek fans forget that this discourse has already happened...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

How quickly Shrek fans forget that this discourse has already happened...

My sole frame of reference is an Internet Funny Man Youtuber hating this with a passion, was it like the Addams Family musical where a big part of the story goes against something people love about the original?

Sidenote, I need to see more musicals in general, no longer being a teenager might make me enjoy that **** more

 

[dezeray112]

Someone’s getting fired, but doomsday looks kind of peak.

Also from what I’ve seen that’s not secret wars. That all doomsday allegedly.

Adding to that is Peter Quill hanging out with Vision, the Young Avengers meeting with Wong and Quill and a Black Panther variant?

I really hope that they get Shang Chi involved for Doomsday.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Someone’s getting fired, but doomsday looks kind of peak.

Also from what I’ve seen that’s not secret wars. That all doomsday allegedly.

#DOOPSWEEP

The Doom stuff would be so much cooler if I didn't know who was playing Doom

Adding to that is Peter Quill hanging out with Vision, the Young Avengers meeting with Wong and Quill and a Black Panther variant?

I really hope that they get Shang Chi involved for Doomsday.

If all of that is within just Doomsday then how the **** will all of that work? Makes you wonder which characters will and won’t play a major role in it, especially since Spidey likely won’t due to dealing with his struggles. This also probably makes Mayor Kingpin look like a hero despite being…him…

gonna pray RDJ kills it as Doom

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Yeah, the hate for the Shrek redesigns is a bit much.

So many people are saying that he's either been "Disneyfied" or just made less "ugly" and thus going against one of the core messages of the series of not needing to be "perfect", or the fact that Shrek stood out from Disney and even some of Dreamworks' other own protagonists by not being conventionally good-looking,

I'm sorry, but...that's still very much Shrek lmao. Having a slightly differently shaped nose and eyes and having smoother, upgraded animation more than a decade later doesn't magically make his design a complete overhaul. Compared to so many other character redesigns out there, this is barely a change outside of the animation getting a serious upgrade.

Honestly this to me just feels like the equivalent of different looney tunes characters in the golden age looking different because a different director was handling the short.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Man, I really want some Metroid Prime 4 news.

 

[Dukefire]

How quickly Shrek fans forget that this discourse has already happened...

Um.....

 

[Noipoi]

Man, I really want some Metroid Prime 4 news.

Maybe it'll be in the Switch 2 direct

One month to go

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Do people really hate change, or fear it? I mean, changes can be good. The following is not necessarily an example, but I must ask; the redesigns of the Chuck E. Cheese characters, they were not too bad, right?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Do people really hate change, or fear it? I mean, changes can be good. The following is not necessarily an example, but I must ask; the redesigns of the Chuck E. Cheese characters, they were not too bad, right?

it depends on the change to determine whether to accept or fear

 

[Z25]

My sole frame of reference is an Internet Funny Man Youtuber hating this with a passion, was it like the Addams Family musical where a big part of the story goes against something people love about the original?

Sidenote, I need to see more musicals in general, no longer being a teenager might make me enjoy that **** more

If all of that is within just Doomsday then how the **** will all of that work? Makes you wonder which characters will and won’t play a major role in it, especially since Spidey likely won’t due to dealing with his struggles. This also probably makes Mayor Kingpin look like a hero despite being…him…

gonna pray RDJ kills it as Doom

We don’t have much to go off of but if I were to guess:

Spoiler

Either there’s an unannounced movie that sets all of this up.

Or (and more likely)

Doomsday starts with Sam already having built the avengers again. Or we see him recruit people.

We get a scene like the age of Ultron where he’s leading the group for training about to say Avengers Assemble, when a distortion opens up or an explosion occurs.

The avengers are completely caught off guard.

Unbeknownst to everyone, the fantastic 4 accidentally bought their Doom with them when they abandon their universe. Or the Doom from the Illuminati universe found his way to ours to wreck havoc.

Without any time to prepare, the avengers are all caught up in this mess. They end up in different time periods or multiverses.

They have to face the main doom who has sue as his wife and Evil strange with him. Knowing 616 was a threat, they used their powers to completely weaken their heroes.

The new avengers are now split up and must find their way back together and stop Doom. They reconvene and overcome any doubts they had about themselves. However it’s too late, and Doom has succeeded in creating enough incursions to lure the beyonder out and cause the destruction of the multiverse.

He steals the beyonder’s powers and now it’s time for God Emperor Doom.

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

it depends on the change to determine whether to accept or fear

Yeah, that makes sense. Thing is, I don’t think the Shrek 5 changes were that big of a change. I don’t think the changes made for Shrek 5 were that big of a deal.

 

[Megadoomer]

Do people really hate change, or fear it? I mean, changes can be good. The following is not necessarily an example, but I must ask; the redesigns of the Chuck E. Cheese characters, they were not too bad, right?

Some people get easily/quickly bent out of shape if they're used to something and it changes too much from what they're comfortable with. There are likely plenty of older examples, but I know that this has been going on since at least the 1960's. A letter's page for the Fantastic Four comics complained that the introduction of characters like Galactus, Silver Surfer, and Black Panther were a sign that the comic was a shadow of its former self.

Spoiler

(as an added bonus, the letter's page also features someone getting way too obsessive about science, physics, etc. in superhero comics)

For all I know, some of Shakespeare's plays had exchanges mocking this kind of attitude.

 

[SuperSonicFlyer]

Some people get easily/quickly bent out of shape if they're used to something and it changes too much from what they're comfortable with. There are likely plenty of older examples, but I know that this has been going on since at least the 1960's. A letter's page for the Fantastic Four comics complained that the introduction of characters like Galactus, Silver Surfer, and Black Panther were a sign that the comic was a shadow of its former self.

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For all I know, some of Shakespeare's plays had exchanges mocking this kind of attitude.

Woah, that is…something, I guess. It must have been taken out of proportion, like with Shrek 5.

 

[Wademan94]

Seeing people get mad about the Shrek 5 teaser and comparing it to Beta Movie Sonic is insane cause it's literally just Shrek, no drastic changes, literally doing things the original movie did with topical jokes and celebrity actors. Can someone explain to me why people are heated about it?

Comparing it to ugly Sonic is a bit much, but something about the trailer just doesn’t feel like Shrek. The style looks too clean but it’s also trying to find a middle ground between the old style and something more stylized, like it’s a major enough departure from the style of the past films that it feels off and I’m not sure what direction it wants to go in. And pop culture references aren’t new for it but Shrek hasn’t been relevant in meme culture for years so this just feels like it’s trying to capitalize on it too late or trying to appeal to the group that grew up on the Shrek memes rather than the movies.

My sole frame of reference is an Internet Funny Man Youtuber hating this with a passion, was it like the Addams Family musical where a big part of the story goes against something people love about the original?

Sidenote, I need to see more musicals in general, no longer being a teenager might make me enjoy that **** more

I’ve seen the show on YouTube and yeah I agree with said funnyman. Its entire existence kinda goes against what the original movie is going for (the licensed songs being a stylistic choice replacing the type of original songs Disney movies would have while the musical has put in almost all original songs) and it really muddles the narrative, it has the live action Disney remake problem of scenes from the movie being recreated but without any of the nuance to make them work and a lot of questionable decisions like having making Farquad a son of one of the seven dwarves or Shrek and Fiona having a song where they try to one-up each others childhood trauma.

I can point you to a few musicals if you’re interested. I think you should give the movie adaptation of Wicked a shot too if you wanna see a decent musical with a green-skinned outcast protagonist

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Comparing it to ugly Sonic is a bit much, but something about the trailer just doesn’t feel like Shrek. The style looks too clean but it’s also trying to find a middle ground between the old style and something more stylized, like it’s a major enough departure from the style of the past films that it feels off and I’m not sure what direction it wants to go in. And pop culture references aren’t new for it but Shrek hasn’t been relevant in meme culture for years so this just feels like it’s trying to capitalize on it too late or trying to appeal to the group that grew up on the Shrek memes rather than the movies.



I’ve seen the show on YouTube and yeah I agree with said funnyman. Its entire existence kinda goes against what the original movie is going for (the licensed songs being a stylistic choice replacing the type of original songs Disney movies would have while the musical has put in almost all original songs) and it really muddles the narrative, it has the live action Disney remake problem of scenes from the movie being recreated but without any of the nuance to make them work and a lot of questionable decisions like having making Farquad a son of one of the seven dwarves or Shrek and Fiona having a song where they try to one-up each others childhood trauma.

I can point you to a few musicals if you’re interested. I think you should give the movie adaptation of Wicked a shot too if you wanna see a decent musical with a green-skinned outcast protagonist

I'm always open to suggestions from people who I consider to have good taste, so musical recommendations for my movie nights with friends, one of which being a theater kid in terms of personality, are very welcome!

 

[Shroob]

Wait who's the funnyman and why is he comical?

 

[Wademan94]

I'm always open to suggestions from people who I consider to have good taste, so musical recommendations for my movie nights with friends, one of which being a theater kid in terms of personality, are very welcome!

I’m not sure what would be good entry points into the genre but some of the most staple ones are Phantom of the Opera, Les Misérables, Wicked and Hamilton. Other recommendations from me are Hairspray, Sweeney Todd, Little Shop of Horrors, Chicago, Into the Woods, The Producers, In the Heights, Avenue Q, Fun Home, Waitress and the musical adaptations of Heathers and Beetlejuice. I’ve also heard good things about Hadestown and Jesus Christ Superstar but I haven’t seen those yet

 

[cashregister9]

I'm always open to suggestions from people who I consider to have good taste, so musical recommendations for my movie nights with friends, one of which being a theater kid in terms of personality, are very welcome!

Wade already mentioned a lot of all-timers and classics, I'd also like to mention Come From Away, The Music Man and West Side Story

and if you are willing to find a bootleg or just listen to the albums, The Great Comet of 1812, SIX and the aforementioned Hadestown are some of my all time favorites, but currently have no adaptation or proshot.

 

[Wademan94]

Wait who's the funnyman and why is he comical?

You know that giant crab voiced by Jeramine Clement in Moana?

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Wait who's the funnyman and why is he comical?

Schrifflas Productions.

 

[Noipoi]

Shrek 5

 

[Shroob]

You know that giant crab voiced by Jeramine Clement in Moana?

This is such a funny way to phrase it lmao.

 

[Aurane]

How's Monster Hunter Wilds?