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the crocodile tears are insane
 

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the crocodile tears are insane
Tbf she did ask for her voice to not be used in AI, by all means they should've respected her wishes. Definitely more to that story than what the tweet states
 
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Tbf she did ask for her voice to not be used in AI, by all means they should've respected her wishes. Definitely more to that story than what the tweet states
people like that refuse to give respect if it means they can get some clout; tho instead they’ve been getting trashed (which has been deserved)
 

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the crocodile tears are insane
People like her are actively hurting the anti-AI ""art"" movement
 

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oh thank god
I mean they should lol, idk why that dude tweeting is playing victim when she doesn't like her work being used without consent
people nowadays being raised to feel entitled to do whatever they please without consequences
People like her are actively hurting the anti-AI ""art"" movement
gonna need these people to stop being stupid
 

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People like her are actively hurting the anti-AI ""art"" movement
Nah this is a perfect example of why AI 'art' is ****ed, her voice was used without permission and the 'harassment campaign' is her not wanting her voice used by AI. Hell, this is using likeness without permission meaning Lindbeck could potentially sue.

Also this is the second time I got to see people try to play victim of a 'harassment campaign', first the racist Banjo twitter account claiming to be falsely smeared despite him still being racist and now this
 

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Nah this is a perfect example of why AI 'art' is ****ed, her voice was used without permission and the 'harassment campaign' is her not wanting her voice used by AI. Hell, this is using likeness without permission meaning Lindbeck could potentially sue.
Not disagreeing but doesn't SEGA technically own the voice? Or do they just own the lines she said
 

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Not disagreeing but doesn't SEGA technically own the voice? Or do they just own the lines she said
Depends on the contract but it should just be the lines she recorded. Regardless, AI voice theft has so much legal trouble that all it needs is one party sueing for whatever reason for it to fade away, all it takes is for one person to feel vindictive and make a VA read through Mein Kampf or something and they'll get destroyed in court
 

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Nah this is a perfect example of why AI 'art' is ****ed, her voice was used without permission and the 'harassment campaign' is her not wanting her voice used by AI. Hell, this is using likeness without permission meaning Lindbeck could potentially sue.
To me it really does depend on how she went about it. I will preface this by saying that she's in the right and that if she says not to use her voice, then they absolutely shouldn't use her voice.

But if she actually started a harassment campaign then she's actively harming the movement, you've seen the Hogwarts Legacy situation, you know the internet is just gonna see it as "people getting butthurt over AI" and side with the AI techbros
 

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the crocodile tears are insane
That ****'s misrepresenting the whole thing.
She asked the person to take the video down which they did.
Then a bunch of ****heads did a bunch of re-uploads.
And now we're at this loser spreading misinfo to slander an actress who doesn't want her voice used for AI ****.

The fact multiple VAs are in the replies calling this guy out should tell you all you need to know.

Not disagreeing but doesn't SEGA technically own the voice? Or do they just own the lines she said
Sega own the lines and Erica's readings of them that they recorded, Erica's voice is her own because there's other characters she's done that have a fairly similar voice to Futaba. It's more that Erica can sue for stuff like impersonation and ID theft whilst Sega could sue for using their IP in such a manner if people decide to slap a render or png of one of their characters on the video.
 

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To me it really does depend on how she went about it. I will preface this by saying that she's in the right and that if she says not to use her voice, then they absolutely shouldn't use her voice.

But if she actually started a harassment campaign then she's actively harming the movement, you've seen the Hogwarts Legacy situation, you know the internet is just gonna see it as "people getting butthurt over AI" and side with the AI techbros
She just wanted the videos that use her voice without permission gone. That's it. Anyone siding against her was never arguing in good faith to begin with whereas the techbros are insulting her and claiming they have the right to do what they want.
 

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She just wanted the videos that use her voice without permission gone. That's it. Anyone siding against her was never arguing in good faith to begin with whereas the techbros are insulting her and claiming they have the right to do what they want.
Yeah okay then I take it back, **** AI **** and **** these guys
 

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Btw another thing worth noting is that someone at Sega could see the AI videos, not realize it's stolen and head after the actual VA for something they didn't do, similar to when EVO misled people in to thinking Solid Snake was coming to Tekken 7



David Hayter was also pissed that his voice was used in this way without him knowing until it was too late because it could have gotten him in to legal trouble with Konami
 

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Even if it’s something stupid, stealing the voice of someone is wrong, especially if they specifically asked you not too.

First it’s some stupid fun video, then it escalates to things way worse. People need to learn to respect one another, simple as that.
 

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Even if it’s something stupid, stealing the voice of someone is wrong, especially if they specifically asked you not too.

First it’s some stupid fun video, then it escalates to things way worse. People need to learn to respect one another, simple as that.
People will think it won't escalate but we already had a Ryan Reynolds deepfake gets used to promote Tesla cars, a massive budget movie using AI recreations of an actor who has no recollection on working on said movie, which he would know about getting a paycheck that recently or some streamer having deepfake porn made of her. People may think this is harsh but I strongly believe any AI enthusiasts who applaude this bull**** needs to die
 

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Btw another thing worth noting is that someone at Sega could see the AI videos, not realize it's stolen and head after the actual VA for something they didn't do, similar to when EVO misled people in to thinking Solid Snake was coming to Tekken 7



David Hayter was also pissed that his voice was used in this way without him knowing until it was too late because it could have gotten him in to legal trouble with Konami
I remember watching that and the organisers did not seem to anticipate this very well and Hayter wasn't too happy with this without his permission to use his voice.
 

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People will think it won't escalate but we already had a Ryan Reynolds deepfake gets used to promote Tesla cars, a massive budget movie using AI recreations of an actor who has no recollection on working on said movie, which he would know about getting a paycheck that recently or some streamer having deepfake porn made of her. People may think this is harsh but I strongly believe any AI enthusiasts who applaude this bull**** needs to die
Well the last part is a bit harsh.

I agree with this though. Except the last line, because deaths too easy. They deserve to be made examples of in prison, so that maybe we can get better laws around this nonsense or shut it down completely.
 

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Which one is the most unrealistically worst dream Video Game crossover?
  • Goku (Dragon Ball) in a future Super Smash Bros. game
  • Sonic in Project X Zone 3
  • Mario in Fortnite
Each one is crazily wrong on their own.
 
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the crocodile tears are insane
I think Xander Mobus’s reply says it pretty well. Doesn’t matter if it wasn’t monetized, she was well within her rights to determine how her voice gets used and any misusing of this tech could easily be disastrous for her or any other VAs who had their voices sampled.

Publicly available AI continues to be a mistake.
 

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Well the last part is a bit harsh.

I agree with this though. Except the last line, because deaths too easy. They deserve to be made examples of in prison, so that maybe we can get better laws around this nonsense or shut it down completely.
On one hand I believe all life is precious and must be cherished, given love to spread joy across the planet. On the other hand I am a cynical adult who sees tech that is absolutely ****ing vile and dangerous and thus should not exist
 

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That ****'s misrepresenting the whole thing.
She asked the person to take the video down which they did.
Then a bunch of ****heads did a bunch of re-uploads.
And now we're at this loser spreading misinfo to slander an actress who doesn't want her voice used for AI ****.
honestly I’d say they did a whole lot worse than that mispread information in order to look good
I think Xander Mobus’s reply says it pretty well. Doesn’t matter if it wasn’t monetized, she was well within her rights to determine how her voice gets used and any misusing of this tech could easily be disastrous for her or any other VAs who had their voices sampled.

Publicly available AI continues to be a mistake.
I didn’t even see what Xander said, but Robbie Daymond’s tweet was a great response to the person
 

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Just saw Indiana Jones and the Dial Of Destiny

For what it was I thought it was pretty good, It didn't bore or annoy me so it is better than Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull. It was a bit too long and I kinda miss Spielberg's direction. It could have been way worse.

The whole movie was worth it to watch Nazis get gored by a ballista
 

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Just saw Indiana Jones and the Dial Of Destiny

For what it was I thought it was pretty good, It didn't bore or annoy me so it is better than Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull. It was a bit too long and I kinda miss Spielberg's direction. It could have been way worse.

The whole movie was worth it to watch Nazis get gored by a ballista
Very good of you to like the movie.

You might want to watch out for Michael, though. (Not picking on Michael, just saying)
 
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