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I think it’s something along the lines of Nintendo giving Sakurai a list, and he picks from said list.
From what he told us, it's clear that Sakurai gives him a list of fighters they want and he approves them before their implementation.
If only one of those characters was Geno.
I dunno man the moment they dropped everyone is here it felt Ultimate to me. Everything else has been cherries upon cherries on the sundae to me.
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SnakeFighter64
if it was up to you guys, how would you want the DLC and all of Smash Bros to finish?
Im a 1990 baby. Im a whooping 27 years young
That's when it started to feel Ultimate yeah. But for me, Ultimate came to mean "everyone from before AND everyone you wanted". Not me, specifically, but just the community in general. And from my perspective (joining during the Smash4 DLC cycle) that meant Ridley, King K. Rool, Banjo, Isaac, Shovel Knight, and Geno. The characters Smashified did, basically. Those ones were just on everybody's lists consistently and to me they felt like the big community requests. And we got half of them and I'm not gonna act like that isn't amazing. But it still causes the game to just fall a tad bit flat to me. Especially since, IMO, them getting into a future Smash game isn't really that tantalizing an idea thanks to the fact that everybody returning is probably never gonna happen again.
I think the problem with Geno and Isaac is that they're ass-old characters that are mostly recognizable to hardcore fans, which means they're not very marketable. Shovel Knight slightly less so but he's an Assist Trophy.
For starters, I'm not a newbie. I used to frequent this website a lot before Smash Ultimate speculation started and later deleted my account.So curious to ask the newbie and the veteran since you guys talking Smash but
Got me curious.
who do I want the final smash character to be you mean? There is only one good answer to this question.Man next month is going busy for me. Forgot to mention this.
Did finally managed to get a hold of a driving school who has placed me on a list to get motorcycle training (CBT since I'm going for a certain category) that would start next month depending. Starting two part time courses of various things. So I'll finally get back on my feet there.
Tales of Arise and is finally coming out. Hopefully the next Direct and final Smash character is announced.
Which means that when the final Smash character is out, might finally expand that Discord server of mine to include more people if everyone agrees.
Now split time.
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So curious to ask the newbie and the veteran since you guys talking Smash but
Got me curious.
You would get the same arguments for K. Rool and Banjo back in the day. And they both made it in. I do agree that it IS an obstacle. But to quote a great man "it doesn't matter if the character is new or old, or if they are recognizable to everyone". Why does is feel like everyone has forgotten that he said that?
I just want to prepare you beforehand.
I'll join you.
I think the issue is hardcore fan requests don't really have an end. Like, where do they end? Geno? Waluigi? Isaac? Bandana Dee? Crash?
I'm still betting the last character is going to be someone a bit more subdued. If it is a surprise pick I'm gonna bet from a company like Arc System Works or Gust or Falcom.
The fact that they did do that should be considering a monument not only for the game but for the industry.
They're too spoiled by the hype of Steve, Sephiroth, and maybe Kazuya. Even people hoping for at least a smaller third-party are spoiled by FP1 giving us third-parties that aren't the biggest in the US.
That is an argument I definitely can understand. This fanbase is insatiable and people's opinions always change. All I can say is, for me, from my perspective, that's where it would stop (aside from maybe Crash Bandicoot). I won't speak for anyone else besides myself though.
I think that's why characters like K. Rool and Ridley made it into the base roster rather than Smash 4 DLC. For Banjo though, I think he'd be in the same boat as Isaac and Geno if it wasn't for the fact he headlined a classic that pretty much every Nintendo 64 kid remembers fondly. SMRPG and Golden Sun have their fanbases, but they're much more niche than Banjo. I know my argument probably has tons of holes but I don't have the energy to argue about it right now.
I feel the same way. There's plenty of characters I still want (including Geno and Isaac) but I think the rest of the roster is good enough that it won't make me lose too much sleep at night.
Banjo-Kazooie...didn't sell that much more than SMRPG and Golden Sun. BK1's sales don't even exceed SMRPG and GS1 sales combined. Even the individual sales of Metroid games are barely better than the sales of GS games, and sometimes worse.
Exactly why I said this
Also, I probably wouldn't be too thrilled about a Gen 8 Pokémon being added. I generally don't mind promotional first party characters, but I'd rather have them be from good games.
You definitely have a point there. If I could go back in time and change things about Ultimate's development, whatever I wanted, I would give them as much money as it would take to ensure Geno, Isaac, and Shovel Knight made it into the base roster. However much they needed to hire enough people to make it happen and pay the licensing fees. But at the end of the day, I got Banjo-Kazooie and Kazuya Mishima. I'm..... I don't wanna say satisfied.... content? like 99% content.
Sakurai: Thank you for enjoying Super Smash Bros: Ultimate's final character.
Wademan94
in the past) but I don't want to see some who I get along with as "Smashboards friends" and the fact that Smash Bros is still continuing doesn't help.Yourself I've told that as well about the post above. I'm burnt out on it and I want to move on but with friends still tied sort of thing. A "Smashboards pseudo-graduation" if that makes sense.
I love you too, man.
I mean, I'll probably still be here for a while after the last character drops. I'm not going to discard this place simply because it's Smash branded and the ride is over...for now. The time to move on for me will come eventually, no doubt, but I'm not thinking about it anytime soon. Forums are simply more comfy for me than something like Discord. Call me a creature of habit, I guess.I think to add as well but as much as I love Smash I want to move on and not be tied to it.
And honestly even more but to the people who I now call friends here (I remember telling you this
Be done here, still stick around but not a lot and then expand the relationships via Discord/cool place sort of thing.
Yourself I've told that as well about the post above. I'm burnt out on it and I want to move on but with friends still tied sort of thing. A "Smashboards pseudo-graduation" so to speak.
I'll probably play the new character for an hour, triple if it's a new one I like, rip off the new tracks off YouTube and that's probably it.
All good things must come to a end eventually.
Don't let Sakurai know, but I've kinda moved on from speculation for this game.
Exactly my thoughts.
