Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If ridley is playable i can picture a update like.

Which one is which

Reveals that ridley is a boss hazard on the pryoshere and ridley is fighting the ridley boss hazard.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

If ridley is playable i can picture a update like.

Which one is which

Reveals that ridley is a boss hazard on the pryoshere and ridley is fighting the ridley boss hazard.

How would you explain it to folks who have never played a metroid ? Would need to explain the boss is a clone.

Pikachu confirmed stage hazard.

Ridley confirmed playable character.

Pichu playable instead of pikachu.

 

[Zwzchow]

Plz no Pichu lol even Mewtwo is better

(Btw Yoshi-Thomas 69 messages lol)

 

[The King of Skulls]

To stray a wee bit off topic...

The new stage looks AWESOME!

Anyways, in a mere 8 days, thy reckoning will be upon us! May the eye of Ridley watch over us!

 

[Zwzchow]

Let's consider the worst case scenario
What will happen if Ridley is deconfirmed?

 

[Rymi]

let's just say sakurai would get vists from ppl

 

[R_Trigger]

Let's consider the worst case scenario
What will happen if Ridley is deconfirmed?

Wyatt Earp = Ridley supporters
Guy getting shot at = Sakurai/Smash Developers

Spoiler

In other words I don't want the worst case scenario to happen.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Let's consider the worst case scenario
What will happen if Ridley is deconfirmed?

Exactly the same thing as with Brawl probably: People will get mopey dopey and blame Ridley's exclusion on another character (likely WFT , Mii, Pac-Man or Chorus Men this time) when in reality it's all on Sakurai's bias. Then after a week of playing the game people will forget all about it, except us who have waited for Ridley for so many years of course, I still think it's bull**** he wasn't a character in Brawl.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Let's consider the worst case scenario
What will happen if Ridley is deconfirmed?

Riot?

Actually, something funny I thought of, though I doubt it'll happen. What if Ridley got confirmed, but Palutena got the axe?

 

[OblivionWolf]

Let's consider the worst case scenario
What will happen if Ridley is deconfirmed?

I'd be shocked and annoyed.

But then I'd suck it up. I'm very confident Ridley will playable so I'm not worried.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Riot?

Actually, something funny I thought of, though I doubt it'll happen. What if Ridley got confirmed, but Palutena got the axe?

I wouldn't mind too much. I'd consider it an ass move on Sakurai's part to tease her this much and then not have it pay-off, just like I do with Ridley currently, but I just don't care about Palutena enough to actually give a damn besides that. Actually, I'm pretty tired of hearing about her at this point with the leak and everything, and I even dread her inevitable announcement too since I'd rather get actual news out of a Smash reveal, so I hope she's saved 'till post 3DS release.

It'd still be a stupid move to not include Palutena though.

 

[Zwzchow]

Riot?

Actually, something funny I thought of, though I doubt it'll happen. What if Ridley got confirmed, but Palutena got the axe?

If Palutena was axed the Japanese fanbase might get really annoyed hahaha

(Western fanbase got little mac and mega man but fan service can never be satiated oh well)

 

[PlasticBag]

If Palutena was axed the Japanese fanbase might get really annoyed hahaha

(Western fanbase got little mac and mega man but fan service can never be satiated oh well)

Same thing already happend with Ashley. lol

 

[Staarih]

Riot?

Actually, something funny I thought of, though I doubt it'll happen. What if Ridley got confirmed, but Palutena got the axe?

Sakurai has definitely teased Ridley more than Palutena, and that alone makes me want to get all this confusion and uncertainty and all the hassle out of me and just have Ridley playable, finally, even at the cost of Palutena not making it. Of course it would be a bit of a shame, as Palutena is a great character too, but right now, I'd take it like that anyway.

As for what will happen if Ridley does end up deconfirmed... I'd be disappointed, sure, but in the end I do realize it's just a video game (and sometimes I get that feeling even now in the midst of all the Ridley-debates and other discussions, thinking is all this really worth... anything haha) and move on. Hopefully it won't happen though: naturally a better situation would be to not experience disappointment, but rather joy and happiness and excitement instead. Fingers crossed!

 

[samsparta21]

There is one little thing I noticed, probably other people have noticed it before me. In the Direct, when they showed the King Kihunter trophy, Ridley's Other M battle music played for a bit. Might mean that it's a track in the game. This could be Ridley's theme or it could be just a track for Pyrosphere (going with the Ridley stage boss battle)

 

[MasterOfKnees]

There is one little thing I noticed, probably other people have noticed it before me. In the Direct, when they showed the King Kihunter trophy, Ridley's Other M battle music played for a bit. Might mean that it's a track in the game. This could be Ridley's theme or it could be just a track for Pyrosphere (going with the Ridley stage boss battle)

It's almost certainly a track in the game because of this, they probably wouldn't be allowed to use it unless they licensed it for the game. The Brinstar remix from Melee is also in the Direct somewhere iirc, so it's probably somewhere in the game too, whether Brinstar comes back as a stage or its on Pyrosphere we don't know of course.

It's no surprise though, with the Pyrosphere as a stage it'd be freakishly weird if Ridley's theme wasn't present, doesn't matter if he's a boss or character. With that said, it's nice to know the best version of the song is in the game and they didn't opt for another remix, even if the Brawl remix was pretty cool too.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

She doesn't even look Gandrayda in the eye as she dies.

Too be fair, she looked away from her because it she knew that she would die just like her other two comrades and it was obviously too painful or her to look.

 

[Kalimdori]

How would you explain it to folks who have never played a metroid ? Would need to explain the boss is a clone.


Pichu playable instead of pikachu.

Nooooo, Pikachu is still playable. Because when Pikachu is played on the Pyrosphere...

 

[Exegguter]

Ridley is the only character I REALLY want since brawl. Other than him im still waiting for king k rool, duckhuntdog and pokey minch.

 

[Snagrio]

While it makes sense for the likes of K. Rool and Palutena, both characters that have varying amounts of hints/teasing towards a playable status, I really don't see the argument that Ridley won't be shown at E3 because he will be "expected." We must remember that beyond this thread, the vast majority have taken Sakurai's bait and believe that Ridley is confirmed as a hazard, so while it wouldn't be much of a surprise to us should we see him playable, the rest will undoubtedly be shocked.

Also, I can understand not revealing all the big name characters during the time since last E3, but, as I've mentioned countless times before, this E3 will be the last big advertising push the games will get before the 3DS version comes out where at that point the entire roster, aka the main source of hype, will be fully unveiled. With that in mind, why wouldn't Sakurai show off fan-favorite additions that many are clamoring for? Sure they would be expected, but people will still go nuts anyway, not to mention the reaction(s) will be bigger for well known characters that most are aware of/are supporting then random obscure selections (WFT).

 

[Shinru202]

-Engineer
-Scientist
-Pirate Leader
-Mercenary

Spoiler

-Dating Rosalina

Even with his busy schedule, Ridley gets to build a robotic version of himself.

Spoiler

In Zero Mission, Ridley perfectly builds Mecha Ridley if Samus is busy enough picking up all 100% Collectibles.

 

[Omega Tyrant]

While it makes sense for the likes of K. Rool and Palutena, both characters that have varying amounts of hints/teasing towards a playable status, I really don't see the argument that Ridley won't be shown at E3 because he will be "expected." We must remember that beyond this thread, the vast majority have taken Sakurai's bait and believe that Ridley is confirmed as a hazard, so while it wouldn't be much of a surprise to us should we see him playable, the rest will undoubtedly be shocked.

Also, I can understand not revealing all the big name characters during the time since last E3, but, as I've mentioned countless times before, this E3 will be the last big advertising push the games will get before the 3DS version comes out where at that point the entire roster, aka the main source of hype, will be fully unveiled. With that in mind, why wouldn't Sakurai show off fan-favorite additions that many are clamoring for? Sure they would be expected, but people will still go nuts anyway, not to mention the reaction(s) will be bigger for well known characters that most are aware of/are supporting then random obscure selections (WFT).

That's another thing I think works in Ridley's favor, that he's the only character that is heavily wanted, yet also mostly unexpected. No other character could provide such an amount of fan appeasement while also generating the shock a legitimate unexpected like Wii Fit Trainer can.

 

[majora_787]

8 days left, 9 until the demo. It's the final countdown for Ridley. This is somewhat relevant, but I don't suppose anyone from this here Ridley thread is going to the demo in Cedar Park, Texas?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Riot?

Actually, something funny I thought of, though I doubt it'll happen. What if Ridley got confirmed, but Palutena got the axe?

That would be ironic. I'd also question what kinda person would blatantly tease someone like that. I mean, in this hypothetical situation, if you're not going to include someone, don't beat around the bush.

 

[AustarusIV]

I said this in the K. Rool thread and I'll reiterate it with a little Ridley twist. Revealing Ridlet at E3 makes sense. Do you really expect them to do something we expect them to do? It seems obvious, which makes me less inclined to believe it's what'll happen. It's weird logic, but if you go back to this thread a year ago, we were all saying what you just said, (except for the part in parentheses). And what did we get last year? Three things that nobody expected. Ultimately, I don't expect Ridley because I've exhausted my ability to do so. I can, however, pray that he isn't outright shown as something not playable.

Most people believe that Ridley's a stage hazard at this point, and thus are not expecting him. Even I have doubts about his inclusion, as well as most fan-requested characters, because Sakurai seems more willing to add in personal favorites to the roster instead.

You could say the same thing for the Palutena fanbase expecting her at E3, which to most people wouldn't be very surprising. Wouldn't it be more in character for the man to reveal someone who isn't really expected to be playable at all? Sometimes I feel as though there's a double standard going on. It's right to reveal Palutena or Chrom at E3 because they're expected, but not so for Ridley.

I've noticed that some people have been talking about Kamek's disconfirmation in the latest pic of the day when he referred to him by name. Honestly, I don't think it has anything to do with Ridley's chances.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

So, if Ridley doesn't get revealed at E3, are you guys going to continue to have hope for Smash 4?

I'm not trying to poke a bear or anything, I'm just legitimately wondering. I myself believe E3 is Ridley's last stand to be playable. I don't see any other time to reveal him as playable.

 

[SchAlternate]

Wouldn't you know. Another character (Kamek) that has been confirmed to be the main gimmick of a stage without any bullcrap in between.


This is starting to annoy me...

 

[AustarusIV]

So, if Ridley doesn't get revealed at E3, are you guys going to continue to have hope for Smash 4?

I'm not trying to poke a bear or anything, I'm just legitimately wondering. I myself believe E3 is Ridley's last stand to be playable. I don't see any other time to reveal him as playable.

I don't think he's going to be playable after that, even if he isn't shown or referred to in any sense at all. I have the same belief regarding King K. Rool and Pac-Man, as my hope for the former has been growing dimmer ever since the Direct, and if the latter isn't revealed his chances are as good as dead.

 

[majora_787]

If Ridley is shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, I consider him done.

If Ridley is not shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, OR if Pyrosphere is deliberately avoided (conveniently not in the demo), I consider Ridley playable.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If Ridley is shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, I consider him done.

If Ridley is not shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, OR if Pyrosphere is deliberately avoided (conveniently not in the demo), I consider Ridley playable.

I see you forgot my part of my cannonballs of playable and a boss hazard.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

If Ridley is shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, I consider him done.

If Ridley is not shown in the demo as a boss on Pyrosphere, OR if Pyrosphere is deliberately avoided (conveniently not in the demo), I consider Ridley playable.

Now, I understand where you're coming from with this statement, but what about the possibility that bosses simply aren't in the demo?

Like, NO bosses. At all. That means no Yellow Devil either. I mean, if Pyrosphere isn't in the demo that would be something to talk about obviously. But the stage boss thing might not be included because they want people to test the gameplay without the bosses. That's just as plausible.

I don't think Ridley not being there at all means much considering Bosses might not be showing up anyway. So I wouldn't go that far.

 

[majora_787]

Now, I understand where you're coming from with this statement, but what about the possibility that bosses simply aren't in the demo?

Like, NO bosses. At all. That means no Yellow Devil either. I mean, if Pyrosphere isn't in the demo that would be something to talk about obviously. But the stage boss thing might not be included because they want people to test the gameplay without the bosses. That's just as plausible.

I don't think Ridley not being there at all means much considering Bosses might not be showing up anyway. So I wouldn't go that far.

They're going to selectively remove SOME stage hazards from some stages but leave OTHER stage hazards intact?

That just sounds extremely unnecessary and bizarre and I seriously don't think that's about to happen.

 

[Xhampi]

So, if Ridley doesn't get revealed at E3, are you guys going to continue to have hope for Smash 4?

I'm not trying to poke a bear or anything, I'm just legitimately wondering. I myself believe E3 is Ridley's last stand to be playable. I don't see any other time to reveal him as playable.

I don't think that I can give up until I see the boss/playable character with my own eyes at this point.
Little Mac would have made a lot more sense at E3 too, but he was revealed in a regular direct.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

They're going to selectively remove SOME stage hazards from some stages but leave OTHER stage hazards intact?

That just sounds extremely unnecessary and bizarre and I seriously don't think that's about to happen.

Or they just leave the megaman's stage to show boss gameplay and don't include pyrosphere simply because they won't put all stages we know. Maybe we won't have, for example, the zelda stage one. We cannot tell anything for sure.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

They're going to selectively remove SOME stage hazards from some stages but leave OTHER stage hazards intact?

That just sounds extremely unnecessary and bizarre and I seriously don't think that's about to happen.

No, no, no. That's not what I mean. I mean they just won't have any stage bosses in at all. Bosses aren't the same as Kamek on the NSMBU stage. They're an entirely different type of hazard.

We don't even know how they work. They could be a separate mode even. There are plenty of reasons why they might not be at E3.

That said, I think Sakurai will say something about them, and Ridley. I'll be surprised if he doesn't.

 

[majora_787]

Or they just leave the megaman's stage to show boss gameplay and don't include pyrosphere simply because they won't put all stages we know. Maybe we won't have, for example, the zelda stage one. We cannot tell anything for sure.

Brawl's demo contained 11/12 stages. We only have 16 on the Wii U version that we know. If they just remove one of the stages that we've seen the most of for one of the longest periods of time, that's still weird.

EDIT: That is what you mean though. You suggested that they were going to turn off either stage hazards in general, which I doubt, or bosses. Which would mandate they only turn off SOME hazards on stages, which is even LESS likely to me.

 

[Staarih]

With the build-up of "other boss character appearances" in the Direct, which left no doubt that the shadow is Ridley, I feel like they are planning to show the purple dragon sooner than later, meaning most likely, if not certainly, E3. Whether he be a playable character, or then a stage boss to further showcase/promote that feature, I do think we'll learn it at E3. Hopefully the former of course.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

EDIT: That is what you mean though. You suggested that they were going to turn off either stage hazards in general, which I doubt, or bosses. Which would mandate they only turn off SOME hazards on stages, which is even LESS likely to me.

I think what he meant is we won't have any map with a boss. For example no dr willy stage.

 

[Snagrio]

The absence of the Pyrosphere stage at any rate would be highly questionable assuming we don't know of Ridley's true fate beforehand. Given the number of times it has appeared in the PotDs, one would think it would be among the stages picked for the demo. For it to be otherwise would be unavoidably glaring.

 

[Pacack]

Has anyone every made the Robot Ridley with legs and wing units finished? That would be a cool alt.